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#1 User is offline   PCWorld 

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 08:35 AM

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  Posted 07 May 2012 - 10:01 AM

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#3 User is offline   moe295 

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  Posted 07 May 2012 - 10:17 AM

Apple makes a choice not to reserve the name in advance, then cries because someone else does. Create a subsidiary and reserve various names that you may wish to use in the future.
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  Posted 07 May 2012 - 10:24 AM

What if I just wanted to make a website where I talk about the 5 people I phone each day?
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  Posted 07 May 2012 - 10:25 AM

What if I wanted to make a website where I talk about the 5 people I phone each day. You know, I phone five.
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  Posted 07 May 2012 - 10:37 AM

So instead of offering to BUY the domain, which is already legally owned and registered, you rather backdoor and use force to try to take it?

I wish it was mine, I'd show you a fight.

If you didn't buy the domain early enough, sucks for you. The domain isn't in violation of any copyrights.

Even Microsoft wasn't like this in their worse days.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 10:52 AM

View PostQUADICON, on 07 May 2012 - 10:37 AM, said:

Even Microsoft wasn't like this in their worse days.


Not only Microsoft did this and more in their worse days, they still do:

"Microsoft Seizes 23 Domain Names In One Swoop"
http://techcrunch.co...t-domain-names/

Oh and I see your Android logo, so you'll probably be interested in knowing that Google did the same very recently as well :-)

"Google files UDRP complaint against domain registered in 1991"
http://domainnamewir...egistered-1999/
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 12:32 PM

View PostQUADICON, on 07 May 2012 - 10:37 AM, said:

So instead of offering to BUY the domain, which is already legally owned and registered, you rather backdoor and use force to try to take it?



Backdoor?? Really?? This is a set in place method of taking a domain that is associated with a property owned by Apple (iPhone) and having a governing body decide.

I imagine if I registered pcworld5.com, levino5.com or intel5.com, I'd be getting the same type of dispute hearing.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 01:42 PM

I'm sorry, but is it realistic for ANY individual or organization that owns international trademarks, copyright, service marks, etc. to have to pre-purchase every domain name permutation of their legally registered names from now until doomsday, just because it's 'the internet'?

I'm sure the Network Information Centers would like it that way.

The internet doesn't trump existing laws and international treaties, and these fans must have known that the borrowed domain name would eventually be 'needed', even as they registered 'iPhone6.com', to squat it, as well.

http://www.networkso...rch/iphone5.com
http://www.networkso...rch/iphone6.com

Someone else is squatting iPhone7 and up.

It is a useful bit of intel: There will be an iPhone 5, 'pretty soon'. But after the expected period of time it takes to settle this in court.
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  Posted 07 May 2012 - 03:04 PM

The name was registered in 2008, well after Apple's introduction of iPhone. Apple bought the trademark iPHone from Cisco already, Apple should not have to pay someone else for the same trademark.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 03:34 PM

View PostQUADICON, on 07 May 2012 - 10:37 AM, said:

So instead of offering to BUY the domain, which is already legally owned and registered, you rather backdoor and use force to try to take it?

By "force" you mean the law? Why should anyone have to pay for something which, according to the law, is theirs?

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I wish it was mine, I'd show you a fight.

Don't forget to bring your mommy and a big bag of money to the fight.

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If you didn't buy the domain early enough, sucks for you. The domain isn't in violation of any copyrights.

I'm not sure your "expert" opinion carries much weight without substantiation.

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Even Microsoft wasn't like this in their worse days.

... you mean, like, BEFORE internet access became ubiquitous and few people understood the value of domain names?
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  Posted 07 May 2012 - 08:03 PM

I published an article to why it's wrong to register trademark domain names. People just don't get it. It's unethical!
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  Posted 07 May 2012 - 10:22 PM

Nice flame baiting title by the way...
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  Posted 08 May 2012 - 01:05 AM

Informatics Outsourcing is an Offshore Intellectual Property Services company. They are providing Intellectual Property services for Bio Technology, Biochemistry, Drug Discovery, Chemistry, etc
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 02:23 AM

View Postgkpm, on 07 May 2012 - 10:52 AM, said:

View PostQUADICON, on 07 May 2012 - 10:37 AM, said:

Even Microsoft wasn't like this in their worse days.


Not only Microsoft did this and more in their worse days, they still do:

"Microsoft Seizes 23 Domain Names In One Swoop"
http://techcrunch.co...t-domain-names/

Oh and I see your Android logo, so you'll probably be interested in knowing that Google did the same very recently as well :-)

"Google files UDRP complaint against domain registered in 1991"
http://domainnamewir...egistered-1999/


Don't you realize how Android fanboys work? They flame Apple for anything that's possibly bad but if Google or Android phone makers do it then it's fine. That's their logic. Remember Android wouldn't be how it is today if Google didn't steal patents from Apple. You don't hear them complain about that but they sure complained about Apple copying features Android had for iOS 5.

But let them say whatever they want. Most Android fanboys are only Android users because they're unwilling to pay $200 for an iPhone so they flame Apple so they feel less cheap. The Android users like me who actually spent $200 or more just go with what we like and defend any company who's attacked just for the sake of being attacked. We can like what we like but it doesn't give us reason to justify one company doing it then criticizing another.
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 07:39 AM

View Posttorontodomainer, on 07 May 2012 - 08:03 PM, said:

I published an article to why it's wrong to register trademark domain names. People just don't get it. It's unethical!


Is iPhone 5 a trade mark? Has Apple registered it? No? Then it's not a trade mark (yet)!
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 07:42 AM

View PostNightfox196h, on 08 May 2012 - 07:39 AM, said:

View Posttorontodomainer, on 07 May 2012 - 08:03 PM, said:

I published an article to why it's wrong to register trademark domain names. People just don't get it. It's unethical!


Is iPhone 5 a trade mark? Has Apple registered it? No? Then it's not a trade mark (yet)!


iPhone® is a "famous" registered trademark. For a third party to use that mark in conjunction with a number dilutes the trademark of iPhone, in my opinion.

This post has been edited by nonseq: 08 May 2012 - 08:03 AM

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 08:09 AM

View PostNightfox196h, on 08 May 2012 - 07:39 AM, said:

View Posttorontodomainer, on 07 May 2012 - 08:03 PM, said:

I published an article to why it's wrong to register trademark domain names. People just don't get it. It's unethical!


Is iPhone 5 a trade mark? Has Apple registered it? No? Then it's not a trade mark (yet)!


The iPhone is a registered trademark and that's all that needs to be. Putting a 5 after it doesn't remove the fact that it has "iPhone" in it. It's like if someone made a site and called it Google Android 5.0 before Google registered the domain. "Google and Android" are both trademarked so adding 5.0 wouldn't change the trademark. If companies had to pay for every website that has their trademark involved they'd all go broke because millions of people would purposely buy those domains years in advance and come up with billions of ways to use that trademark looking for quick payday.
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 10:16 AM

View PostMattvm8v, on 08 May 2012 - 08:09 AM, said:

View PostNightfox196h, on 08 May 2012 - 07:39 AM, said:

View Posttorontodomainer, on 07 May 2012 - 08:03 PM, said:

I published an article to why it's wrong to register trademark domain names. People just don't get it. It's unethical!


Is iPhone 5 a trade mark? Has Apple registered it? No? Then it's not a trade mark (yet)!


The iPhone is a registered trademark and that's all that needs to be. Putting a 5 after it doesn't remove the fact that it has "iPhone" in it. It's like if someone made a site and called it Google Android 5.0 before Google registered the domain. "Google and Android" are both trademarked so adding 5.0 wouldn't change the trademark. If companies had to pay for every website that has their trademark involved they'd all go broke because millions of people would purposely buy those domains years in advance and come up with billions of ways to use that trademark looking for quick payday.

In the mid-nineties individuals used to do exactly that... and made tons of money releasing domain names to those companies who were tardy in getting up-to-speed re domains.

This post has been edited by artzy65: 08 May 2012 - 10:19 AM

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