Oracle V. Google Copyright Case: The Road Ahead

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 07:57 AM

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 08:29 AM

I'm curious how this will effect Android if Google loses this case. Will it effect the way the Android runs? Will it affect the apps?

I mean this is something every Android user needs to follow just to see what the future of Android holds.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 08:41 AM

Mattvm8v, on 08 May 2012 - 08:29 AM, said:

It won't. There's no injunctions of any kind. Oracle wants money, so if Google loses on all fronts, they'll have to pay Oracle a lot of money. It won't have any affect on the end users. It won't affect apps. It won't affect how Android runs.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 08:47 AM

linuxrants7xpg, on 08 May 2012 - 08:41 AM, said:

Mattvm8v, on 08 May 2012 - 08:29 AM, said:

Well if Google did steal then Oracle deserves to get paid. But I've heard reports before that Oracle wants their technology removed from Android as well. So I guess you won't know what really will happen until it happens.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 08:57 AM

Mattvm8v, on 08 May 2012 - 08:47 AM, said:

linuxrants7xpg, on 08 May 2012 - 08:41 AM, said:

Mattvm8v, on 08 May 2012 - 08:29 AM, said:

I've heard nothing of the kind. Where did you read that? Also, while this looks like Oracle actually pulled something off, this isn't as rosy for Oracle as it would appear. From Groklaw:

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Don't let anyone fool you. Today was a major victory for Google. That's why after the jury left, our reporter says that Google's table was laughing, and Oracle's mighty glum. And I see some journalists are surprised or confused, because they have been listening to a steady flow of Oracle FUD from the wrong people. Remember the headlines about this being a $6 billion dollar case? It never was and now it never will be. Oracle attorney Michael Jacobs was reported to have visited the press room at the courthouse during the trial for a talk with the gathered journalists. So did a PR person from his firm. I mean, come on, fellas. And that doesn't even count the huge stream of misinformation from ... well, you know. And look at the outcome. Not what you were told to expect, is it? Live and learn, y'all. Live and learn. If a person is paid by Oracle, why would you take it as necessarily so?

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 09:15 PM

Whether the Java API is copyrightable is a still a question. Assuming that API is copyrightable, judge asked the jury to check if Google infringed and that too beyond fair-use.

So, first of all, whether or not Java API is copyrightable is still open question. If judge rules that APIs are not copyrightable, then there is no question of infringment by Google as Android is a clean-room implementation of Java API ( no source code copied from original Java).

As said, nowhere in history APIs are said to be copyrightable. For example, Amazon's APIs are copied in cloud computing by many. And so on. Thus, ruling will mostly be that APIs are not copyrightable. This means, anybody can implement Java API as Google did. Even a recent EU court said so.

Thus, when APIs are not copyrightable, Google did not do any wrong thing and nothing to worry on the future of Android.

So, there is no threat to Android at all.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 11:02 PM

Doesn't Android ultimately run in C, isn't java ultimately based off of C but is sufficiantly complex that its not C

Doesn't ATT ultimately own the rights to most programming languages since bell labs was thefounder of almost everything.