[PCWorld]

Post your comments for Study: iOS Surpasses Android in Enterprise Usage here

[EminenceFronta0ah]

As an IT administrator of over 20 years, I have to call bullshit on this article.

[MerleReinexo21]

Pure nonsense. We have no iOS devices at our company at all. Everyone either has windows or Android. I own a company that specializes in moving people from Office to gmail and removing apple devices from companies to standardize on either windows or android or both. We are one of the fastest growing companies in San Diego so explain that in your survey. If we are so busy removing apple devices (we are) then how can it be growing?

This post has been edited by MerleReinexo21: 12 May 2012 - 12:23 AM

[MerleReinexo21]

EminenceFronta0ah, on 11 May 2012 - 06:02 PM, said:

As an IT administrator of over 20 years, I have to call bullshit on this article.

I call bullshit on it as well.

[carlosteran]

None of our 100 employees own an Android device. On the other side, we all use iOS devices in several capacities. We have a ban on Facebook and Hotmail, and only Twitter and Gmail accounts are allowed.

[crosswordbob]

MerleReinexo21, on 12 May 2012 - 12:20 AM, said:

Pure nonsense. We have no iOS devices at our company at all. Everyone either has windows or Android. I own a company that specializes in moving people from Office to gmail and removing apple devices from companies to standardize on either windows or android or both. We are one of the fastest growing companies in San Diego so explain that in your survey. If we are so busy removing apple devices (we are) then how can it be growing?

People keep saying that most folk are right-handed, but I'm left-handed, so explain that?

I call bullsh*t.

This post has been edited by crosswordbob: 12 May 2012 - 01:13 PM

[Nuke61]

MerleReinexo21, on 12 May 2012 - 12:20 AM, said:

We are one of the fastest growing companies in San Diego so explain that in your survey. If we are so busy removing apple devices (we are) then how can it be growing?

Of course, what could they have possibly been thinking, when your company is among the fastest growing companies in San Diego--how could their data, which consists of "recently released data based on more than 200 billion first quarter transactions in its cloud, which serves global companies of all sizes. " possibly compare to the data your company has compiled?

I work for a company based in Los Angeles that had just shy of 20K employees at the end of 2011. We we previously a RIM only company, meaning that if you were able to access corporate email or other corporate networked assets, you used a Blackberry to do it. Now? It's still Blackberry for phones, but iPads for tablets. Based on what is happening with MY employer, RIM is still hugely dominant in the smartphone space... but we all know that's not true. Maybe your tiny view of the world, as seen though your company, is also skewed?

[FalKirk]

MerleReinexo21, on 12 May 2012 - 12:21 AM, said:

EminenceFronta0ah, on 11 May 2012 - 06:02 PM, said:

As an IT administrator of over 20 years, I have to call bullshit on this article.

I call bullshit on it as well.

Dear MerleReinexo21 and EminenceFronta0ah: You do know that you are not the whole world, right? In my yard I planted no evergreen trees. Does that mean that there are no evergreen trees anywhere in the world?

Perhaps if you used the evidence at hand to form your opinions instead of calling Bull whenever the evidence conflicted with your opinions you would begin to see what is happening all around you. Here is some more evidence for you to ignore:

Source: iPad Made Up 97 Percent of Enterprise Tablet Activations in Q1 | News & Opinion | PCMag.com

Source: Android Is Failing to Get into Businesses As iPhone and iPad Do - NYTimes

Source: CIOs to Tablets: It's Business Time - John Paczkowski - Mobile - AllThingsD

Source: BYOD Policy Or Buy Everyone An iPhone? - The BrainYard - InformationWeek

[DanGenova]

Android 61 percent jump over the 49 percent recorded in last year's fourth quarter. iOS lost ground with a 29 percent market share

"Looking at the first quarter of the year, NPD Group pegged Android's U.S. market share at 61 percent, a jump over the 49 percent recorded in last year's fourth quarter. On the flip side, iOS lost ground with a 29 percent market share, down from 41 percent during 2011's final quarter." -from article: "Android reclaims 61 percent of all U.S. smartphone sales" in news.cnet

[nonseq]

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[nonseq]

DanGenova, on 13 May 2012 - 01:43 PM, said:

Android 61 percent jump over the 49 percent recorded in last year's fourth quarter. iOS lost ground with a 29 percent market share

"Looking at the first quarter of the year, NPD Group pegged Android's U.S. market share at 61 percent, a jump over the 49 percent recorded in last year's fourth quarter. On the flip side, iOS lost ground with a 29 percent market share, down from 41 percent during 2011's final quarter." -from article: "Android reclaims 61 percent of all U.S. smartphone sales" in news.cnet

I thought the article was about iOS and Android in Enterprise Usage. The numbers cited are all smartphones, I think, and are not germane to this discussion. iOS is surpassing Android in the enterprise and the numbers show that.

[HankRearden]

Considering how to word this so I don't get flamed... The company I am with does a lot of design as well as manufacturing. Think of us as contract manufacturing, and all that goes with that. Want a book, we can design it, print it. Want a DVD, we can author it, manufacture it and even push it through the largest distribution points on the planet. We're global. I work all over the world.

We have people that work in warehouses as professionals. We have people who essentially pull boxes off shelves and ship them. We have people who manually put products into boxes, which we refer to as assemblers. We have automated assembly. We have designers, authors, editors, writers, number crunchers. I do number crunching and design work. I basically tell you what can be done, for how much, and have a heavy hand in managing that entire process.

I'd say most of our people easily have Android phones. And here is where I'm going to get in trouble. Most of the assemblers use low-cost Android devices. I could speculate why this is but I won't. Let's just leave that alone and say that they do. The owner of the company has an Android phone. No tablet. Mid level people tend to not have anything or have Android phones.

Now, the designers and those that manage design related projects, pretty much solely have iOS devices. Lots of iPhones and iPads.

Regarding traffic. It's very common to see myself and others, with iCal running or mail running on the iPad while working full screen in Illustrator or InDesign. You hear an alert, you glance over to your iPad, read the email, reply, and then go go back to what you're doing. Same for Excel. Someone working in assembly isn't going to generate much traffic watching for a tweet near lunch time. Someone running email, calendar or reminders all day long is going to generate a lot more traffic. I just added Creative Cloud from Adobe. And I'm just now looking at what it has to offer.

When an assembler goes home their not doing anything business related. When I go home, my day is simply going into stage two where Asia is just coming online. And at 5:30AM I am in contact with Europe if I need to be as they are before my time zone, and Asia is after it. All during the day I am using Siri to make pretty much every call I make. No one calls me on the office phone. They know better. Very mobile people make use of cloud based apps. DropBox, YouSendIt, MyFax and so on. I recently added a MacServer for my sole use just so I have access to a large set of data from anywhere.

So from my very limited point of view the article coincides with what I see.

I see Android selling a lot of devices, but I also see them on Boost, Virgin and MetroPCS selling to the pre-paid market. Who is the customer for the pre-paid phone? Business execs or assemblers? I think assemblers. Between the iPhone iPad and MiFi, my bill can easily run past $300. Which is nothing compared to what it was in 1997. In 1997 I typically had cell phone bills over $1,400 a month. So while I hear everyone complaining over their cell phone rates, from my point of view cell access has never been cheaper for what you get. I guess it just depends on how long you've been using cell service. Those that have been using cell phones since the beginning will likely feel pretty good about the cost. And those new to cell coverage likely feel it is too expensive. It was much more expensive 15 years ago.

Make of the data what you will. Just articulating what I see around me.

[DanGenova]

nonseq, on 13 May 2012 - 03:03 PM, said:

DanGenova, on 13 May 2012 - 01:43 PM, said:

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I thought the article was about iOS and Android in Enterprise Usage. The numbers cited are all smartphones, I think, and are not germane to this discussion. iOS is surpassing Android in the enterprise and the numbers show that.

Before adding this comment, I asked Siri if this comment is germane to this article and she said yes, so OK. I asked Siri just now and she still says yes. Woohoo! Apple hasn't yet censored Siri on this. On the other hand, Siri used to say that Lumia 900 is 'best smartphone ever', but since Apple has censored Siri, and Siri no longer says that. Rotten Apple.

[nonseq]

DanGenova, on 14 May 2012 - 06:28 PM, said:

nonseq, on 13 May 2012 - 03:03 PM, said:

DanGenova, on 13 May 2012 - 01:43 PM, said:

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I thought the article was about iOS and Android in Enterprise Usage. The numbers cited are all smartphones, I think, and are not germane to this discussion. iOS is surpassing Android in the enterprise and the numbers show that.

Before adding this comment, I asked Siri if this comment is germane to this article and she said yes, so OK. I asked Siri just now and she still says yes. Woohoo! Apple hasn't yet censored Siri on this. On the other hand, Siri used to say that Lumia 900 is 'best smartphone ever', but since Apple has censored Siri, and Siri no longer says that. Rotten Apple.

Perhaps you can get top dollar in trade on on EBay for your iPhone 4S and buy any one of the fine Android offerings available to you. Or perhaps you didn't ask Siri the right question pertaining to iOS vs Android in the Enterprise, which would have been germane to this discussion.

You might want to be able to support your claim of censorship with facts. But, of course you can't. If anyone I would speculate that Wolfram Labs addressed the issue that returned partial data.

This post has been edited by nonseq: 15 May 2012 - 06:20 AM

[michael1213]

DanGenova, on 13 May 2012 - 01:43 PM, said:

Android 61 percent jump over the 49 percent recorded in last year's fourth quarter. iOS lost ground with a 29 percent market share

"Looking at the first quarter of the year, NPD Group pegged Android's U.S. market share at 61 percent, a jump over the 49 percent recorded in last year's fourth quarter. On the flip side, iOS lost ground with a 29 percent market share, down from 41 percent during 2011's final quarter." -from article: "Android reclaims 61 percent of all U.S. smartphone sales" in news.cnet

And what relevance does that have with the article's assertion of business use?