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[EminenceFronta0ah]

Marinelli is smoking crack if he thinks that crApple will continue to rule the tablet market. Once Metro hits a Tegra 3 tablet, iPad's will be a thing of the past to every IT Manager like myself that wants a SECURE extension of the workplace desktop that only a Windows based table can provide. Looking forward to hearing all the crApple fanboyz pissing themselves in the forums when Metro gets released !!!

[PhillyPhan23]

EminenceFronta0ah, on 12 May 2012 - 05:21 PM, said:

Marinelli is smoking crack if he thinks that crApple will continue to rule the tablet market. Once Metro hits a Tegra 3 tablet, iPad's will be a thing of the past to every IT Manager like myself that wants a SECURE extension of the workplace desktop that only a Windows based table can provide. Looking forward to hearing all the crApple fanboyz pissing themselves in the forums when Metro gets released !!!

Since WOA tablets won't support that "secure extension of the workplace desktop" and since Intel/x86 tablets are likely to face significant issues around price, battery life and software compatibility, I doubt we'll see deep penetration of Windows 8 tablets anytime soon. MS will try to leverage its Windows and especially Office near monopoly to promote Windows 8 tablets (e.g. their recent licensing change to require a companion device license for BYOD users on non-Windows 8-RT devices - the DOJ is probably warming up the printer to file an anti-trust suit on that one.) but in the end, the ecosystem is what determines market share. And if Apple can establish a low-end user base on that ecosystem, it will be very hard to dethrone. By the way, nobody but techies gives a rat's butt what processor is in their tablet. Users only care that their device works well, has decent apps and isn't too pricey.

[arvindbhan]

you didn't even mention samsung which is the real leader in tablet market

[FalKirk]

arvindbhan, on 12 May 2012 - 11:19 PM, said:

you didn't even mention samsung which is the real leader in tablet market

Samsung is anything but the leader in the tablet market. At the Mobile World Congress, Samsung’s Hankil Yoon said “Honestly, we’re not doing very well in the tablet market.” Further, Samsung's market share was cut in half in the fourth quarter of last year and has not made a recovery in the first quarter despite a dramatic drop in Kindle Fire sales. Comscore currently estimates Samung's tablet market share to be ~15%. And those are estimates of shipments, not sales, since Samsung does not report numbers.

[Nuke61]

EminenceFronta0ah, on 12 May 2012 - 05:21 PM, said:

Marinelli is smoking crack if he thinks that crApple will continue to rule the tablet market. Once Metro hits a Tegra 3 tablet, iPad's will be a thing of the past to every IT Manager like myself that wants a SECURE extension of the workplace desktop that only a Windows based table can provide.

Old I.T. Managers like you seem to be tied to the past. A secure extension of the desktop that only a Windows based tablet can provide? Yes, IF it's Windows on a tablet, but since you specifically said Metro on a Tegra 3 tablet, you're talking about WOA aka Windows RT and NOT the desktop version of Windows - and we've already seen how well Windows desktop on a tablet has worked out. But back to WinRT... so what does WOA offer? No ability for remote management! No ability to remotely distribute apps, no ability to create reports of managed resources. It will be manageable, but no more so than an iPad. With my iPad I can already log onto the corporate network in a secure manner, they can dictate password requirements, and can do remote wipe. The email is handled by an Exchange server... so how is Windows RT going to be a "SECURE extension of the workplace desktop" that the iPad already isn't?

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Looking forward to hearing all the crApple fanboyz pissing themselves in the forums when Metro gets released !!!

My guess is that people like you, who have done the "just wait for the next Windows tablet" to kill the iPad mantra will be dead silent a year from now, when even they have figured out that just like in the phone market, Windows is largely irrelevant on tablets, as Android and iOS continue to duke it out.

[t1u1]

Wow, my elderly customers will soon have a solution to the universal remote problem!!

[jabberwolff]

Nuke61, on 13 May 2012 - 06:14 AM, said:

EminenceFronta0ah, on 12 May 2012 - 05:21 PM, said:

Marinelli is smoking crack if he thinks that crApple will continue to rule the tablet market. Once Metro hits a Tegra 3 tablet, iPad's will be a thing of the past to every IT Manager like myself that wants a SECURE extension of the workplace desktop that only a Windows based table can provide.

Old I.T. Managers like you seem to be tied to the past. A secure extension of the desktop that only a Windows based tablet can provide? Yes, IF it's Windows on a tablet, but since you specifically said Metro on a Tegra 3 tablet, you're talking about WOA aka Windows RT and NOT the desktop version of Windows - and we've already seen how well Windows desktop on a tablet has worked out. But back to WinRT... so what does WOA offer? No ability for remote management! No ability to remotely distribute apps, no ability to create reports of managed resources. It will be manageable, but no more so than an iPad. With my iPad I can already log onto the corporate network in a secure manner, they can dictate password requirements, and can do remote wipe. The email is handled by an Exchange server... so how is Windows RT going to be a "SECURE extension of the workplace desktop" that the iPad already isn't?

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Looking forward to hearing all the crApple fanboyz pissing themselves in the forums when Metro gets released !!!

My guess is that people like you, who have done the "just wait for the next Windows tablet" to kill the iPad mantra will be dead silent a year from now, when even they have figured out that just like in the phone market, Windows is largely irrelevant on tablets, as Android and iOS continue to duke it out.

Hmm old IT managers as opposed to young idiots that are at helpdesk with their ipads trying to "look" as if they know anything?
The reason being is that the use of the ipad and other devices, for now, has just been as an endpoint device to REMOTE to a real desktop OS - nothng more.
Its simple has few features, can browse the web, and can play a few stupid games.
The reason Win8 has much more promise, is that it can be locked down and have applications run natively and offline.
Though yes the RT wont be much of use, but the ability to run VMs on it should take care of that issue.
And offline streaming of apps with citrix and AppV onto those VMs should make things very easy to manage, as well as give the user the option to go back to a tablet use when they choose.
The is WAY beyond the ability of Apple's ipad.
If you dont understand this, then you probably arent an IT manager, nor have any future of being one.

[Nuke61]

jabberwolff, on 13 May 2012 - 08:41 AM, said:

Though yes the RT wont be much of use, but the ability to run VMs on it should take care of that issue.

Virtual Machines? You're probably talking about Virtual Desktop Interfaces... already have those for the iPad, and in 6 months, when we actually get WinRT tablets, we will likely see even more VDI availability.

[LordInsidious]

Nuke61, on 13 May 2012 - 11:50 AM, said:

jabberwolff, on 13 May 2012 - 08:41 AM, said:

Though yes the RT wont be much of use, but the ability to run VMs on it should take care of that issue.

Virtual Machines? You're probably talking about Virtual Desktop Interfaces... already have those for the iPad, and in 6 months, when we actually get WinRT tablets, we will likely see even more VDI availability.

Virtual Machines and Virtual/remote Desktop interfaces are to very different things.

[Nuke61]

LordInsidious, on 14 May 2012 - 12:29 PM, said:

Nuke61, on 13 May 2012 - 11:50 AM, said:

jabberwolff, on 13 May 2012 - 08:41 AM, said:

Though yes the RT wont be much of use, but the ability to run VMs on it should take care of that issue.

Virtual Machines? You're probably talking about Virtual Desktop Interfaces... already have those for the iPad, and in 6 months, when we actually get WinRT tablets, we will likely see even more VDI availability.

Virtual Machines and Virtual/remote Desktop interfaces are to very different things.

I know that VDI's and VM's are two different things, which is why I said that jabberwolf was probably talking about VDI's on WOA and not VM's. If that's the case, that he was mistaken to imply that VM's will run on WOA, that's not any different than iPad.