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[hellopoco]

its easy to uninstall it yourself.

[mbrokaw]

It's pretty easy to build your own rig these days. Get a fresh copy of Win8 and install it yourself, crap-free.

[dangub]

Metro apps don't slow down the startup time, so if OEM are only allowed to put Metro apps, then it's not a problem. Removing the Metro is straightforward, and because of the way Metro apps are sandboxed, there are no leftovers.

Of course, if OEMs would start putting desktop mode apps, then it's a problem.

[mipa]

I hate to be the one to break the news to you but Windows 8 IS bloatware itself!

[ConnorMeeblings]

Or, you know, there are OTHER options like Mac or Linux...it's not JUST Windows out there

[LordInsidious]

mipa, on 17 May 2012 - 03:09 PM, said:

I hate to be the one to break the news to you but Windows 8 IS bloatware itself!

I don't think you understand what bloatware is.

[Evildave]

If Microsoft is selling a $99 'service' to 'clean up' all of this CRAP, I guarantee that Microsoft and the OEMs will do their damnedest to make it 'worth it'.

It's not ALWAYS 'easy' to remove bloatware... for instance, if there is a LOT OF IT.

Windows 8 will probably NOT add a 'batch mode' to uninstall crap. It would be a nice feature. You're still going to have to click, confirm, wait, wait, wait, click, confirm, wait even longer... REBOOT... over and over and over again.

Sometimes, some 'antivirus' or other crapware you didn't want to buy a license for, will be IMPOSSIBLE to remove, without wrecking the OS and making you start over again, that is.

What if you uninstall something the manufacturer put on there to 'manage' things that windoze does not (or does a worse job at)? I don't know how many times I've deleted some uselessly named crap from a windoze machine, only to have something 'important' disappear, and go hunt on the manufacturer's site an hour or a day later, to get it back.

ALMOST WITHOUT EXCEPTION is the case of people who BUY a license for M$ Office, or some other piece of trialware (at absolutely no savings over buying a full version from a retail store on disk), then don't print out the magic key, lose the receipt that they only got an electronic copy of, and didn't save anywhere, forgot their credentials, etc. Something goes 'ping', and the OS needs to be restored from the 'recovery partition', because they never, ever, EVER have a &@*# backup.

"I own it, I DO own it!"

Unless you can remember that password, or activation code, or conjure that long-ago forgotten and deleted receipt from the bit bucket, no you don't. Not anymore.

Oh, and if you DO use that recovery partition? Yeah, all the bloatware is back again, needing to be cleaned up again. From scratch.

[MichaelMullins]

Or, you know, you could make installing non-native software a selectable option during first boot.

[LiveBrianD]

MichaelMullins, on 17 May 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:

Or, you know, you could make installing non-native software a selectable option during first boot.

EXACTLY! For instance, with my thinkpad x120e, upon booting it for the first time, I was asked whether or not I wanted to install Norton. (MS Office was already installed though.)

[Moosehouse]

mipa, on 17 May 2012 - 03:09 PM, said:

I hate to be the one to break the news to you but Windows 8 IS bloatware itself!

Are you writing that from your Mac? What a great piece of thought, did you spend hours pondering that thought?
Bey you did. Now return to your Fisher-Price toy.

[Moosehouse]

Preston, I don't think I have ever seen a positive article about Microsoft from you. You are always slagging them off one way and another.
Why bother????

[MichaelMcWilliams]

mbrokaw, on 17 May 2012 - 02:44 PM, said:

It's pretty easy to build your own rig these days. Get a fresh copy of Win8 and install it yourself, crap-free.

Yea, verily. Save some dough and probably get a much better system for less, too. If you've ever futzed around inside the box, this is not much of a leap.

[NotDeadYet]

Bloatware is a vendor thing and NOT a Microsoft thing. Bottom line is any who as ever purchased a PC (and I mean ever purchased one) will know that crapware is just part of the package and it's NOT Microsoft's fault or blame. It's the vendor that adds the crapware after receiving the OS from Microsoft. So just get useto using the 'Add/Remove Programs' control panel applet...why pay to do what you can do yourself?

[MikeYostjodt]

hellopoco, on 17 May 2012 - 02:40 PM, said:

its easy to uninstall it yourself.

This is what I was thinking, just get Revo Uninstaller and have about 30 minutes of free time (For extreme cases). Man is Microsoft digging for money!

[anonymousr46j]

What wasn't mentioned in the article is how much MORE PCs would cost if there wasn't bloatware on them. The manufacturer gets paid to put the junk on there by 3rd parties and that usually helps bring the price down.

What the article ALSO didn't mention is that besides the "signature upgrade" is the "Signature" computers you can get from the Microsoft Stores contain no junk. Just pure Windows.

http://signature.microsoft.com/

[SeSorrow]

Moosehouse, on 18 May 2012 - 02:17 AM, said:

Preston, I don't think I have ever seen a positive article about Microsoft from you. You are always slagging them off one way and another.
Why bother????

Yeah...um this article was not exactly a slam against Microsoft or Windows. I think the most negative thing the author said was that Windows was going to get their money's worth on the crapware removal. Hell, that's every company, not just Microsoft. To be honest, I think if MS could get away with it they would prevent the auto install of OEM crapware, as it reflects on the OS because most people think that the bloatware comes from MS.

[SeSorrow]

MikeYostjodt, on 18 May 2012 - 05:36 AM, said:

hellopoco, on 17 May 2012 - 02:40 PM, said:

its easy to uninstall it yourself.

This is what I was thinking, just get Revo Uninstaller and have about 30 minutes of free time (For extreme cases). Man is Microsoft digging for money!

I agree, but having supported home users for the last 7 -10 years I can say that most home users won't have the knowledge to do it, or even know that removing it will make the OS any better in performance.

[GMaffin4w]

mipa, on 17 May 2012 - 03:09 PM, said:

I hate to be the one to break the news to you but Windows 8 IS bloatware itself!

The thing that people that don't like Windows never tell you is that there is nothing out that is better. Oh sure some OS's may do some things better but overall Window beat every other OS hands down

[waldojim]

I thought for sure when the article stated there would be a $99 option to remove the bloatware, they were talking about buying a new oem copy...