[trjtrj]

The built in anti virus will help reduce virus and trojan propagation. I've been using Avast free for years and love it.

It sounds as though Win8 is more cosmetic than new as far as the guts of the OS. Will it be enough to change from Win7 ??

[threenof]

I love my new Dell with windows 7, i schould have waited 6mo & i could have saved $150.00 oh well

[AbidDin]

Plus, that metro environment is sandboxed.

[AbidDin]

LiveBrianD, on 17 May 2012 - 08:34 PM, said:

Why don't they just get rid of Windows Defender and include Microsoft Security Essentials then? Another option might be to, the first time the user boots the PC, ask what AV they want and offer a ton of options, including MSE. (So that you don't have everyone using one program, plus it'll satisfy the EU anti-trust regulators.)

Actually, that is what they did, sort of. They combined security essentials with windows defender and made it into one product, calling it "Windows Defender". Windows Defender = Old windows defender + Security Essentials.

[AbidDin]

jazzy007, on 21 May 2012 - 12:27 PM, said:

MichaelMullins, on 17 May 2012 - 06:44 PM, said:

Not a good idea to include built-in anti-virus, in my opinion. Having one built-in means less experienced users won't bother searching for alternatives, and malware creators will have a clear target to crack if they know a majority of PC users are using one particular anti-virus program.

I know this is your opinion, but comments like this shows the ignorance or bias people might have. On this age of technology, all PC buyers except for Apple products knows of anti-virus and the need to have one. The Microsoft free anti-virus Essentials has prove time and time again that it's as good as the best paid anti-virus. It does not have all the bells and whistle as the pay anti-virus but it does the job just as well. For Malware it's not the best, but there are many excellent free anti-malware that you can combine with Essentials. Most consumer will buy their regular anti-virus of choice or get their choice of free ones.

As for less experienced users like you mention, they would not bother even to consider to buy an anti-virus. If they buy a Windows tablet they will no even think about it because most IPad users don't even think about this. But many Apple users are now finding out that their product are not free of virus as they were let to believe. So even a simple free anti-virus on your tablet, desktop, laptop is a good thing.

As for Norton, McAfee and others they already gave their blessing to Microsoft. If you remember a year or two ago, Norton and other anti-virus company made a big issue of Microsoft entering the anti-virus business, even treating to sue. But they make up and gave Microsoft their blessing. So what Microsoft is offering is a basic free anti-virus. It will never compete with the Anti-virus companies, and something is better than nothing. Do not underestimate PC users unlike Apple users that still believe a virus with never affect their computers or IPad.

Now, Apple computers need antivirus programs as well.

[dfschmid]

I won't be using Windows 8.

My desktop computer is not a smartphone.

This post has been edited by dfschmid: 29 May 2012 - 10:28 AM

[dfschmid]

I won't be using Windows 8.

My desktop computer is not a smartphone.

[CenCalNetworks]

julio99, on 21 May 2012 - 05:08 AM, said:

nijaboy2, on 21 May 2012 - 03:58 AM, said:

JohnUSA, on 19 May 2012 - 04:44 AM, said:

I will never use this horrible and frustrating OS.
Microsoft is going to be a huge loser with this OS.
I will wait till Windows 7 SP2 is released.

So, who cares about what you plan to do?

He has a right to an opinion just like you. I care what he has to say or I wouldn't be on this page reading. I usually end up moving on to a new OS, but like the previous poster has said "I think I may wait for 7-SP2 or Windows 9 if Microsoft plans on building an OS strictly for PC's and laptops and stay away from trying to accommodate the Tablets and IPads. I haven't used the Consumer preview of Win 8 because it has gotten so much bad press and the fact that it looks like it's built for tablets and IPads has kept me away from going forward this time. I like the simplicity of Windows 7 plain and simple.

Not sure why people are thinking security essentials is a good AV. As I have worked on a large scale network with MS forefront (Paid version of security essentials) I noticed the MS AV sucked. Most infections are of the Malware type and Security essentials never finds anything. I can run Malwarebytes in conjunction with super anti spyware and Peer Block to maintain a clean PC. I have installed security essentials and monitored hundreds of machines running MS AV, and only seen it find one worm in years of using it. I can run other programs and pull lots of infected files. So for those who are defending Microsoft AV, good luck to you.

[WillyMcBurgle]

I love the term 'Basic Protection' - it's funny how people think McAffee or Norton is somehow a 'step-up' from Microsoft Security Essentials.

[Markwekw]

GetReal, on 18 May 2012 - 07:42 AM, said:

I have used both Norton and Mcafee antivirus for years, always depressed by the way the programs slowed my system and tried to nuke my internet, finally going to no antivirus for 2 years. So when MS released Security Essentials I tried it - found it significantly fewer problems in Xp and Vista than other commercial antivirus and for over a decade with all these programs and without - never a virus or download problem!

What I am saying here is that I think most people cause their own disasters by constantly flopping around on the internet > going to bad sites and browsing foolishly.

So if there is a default firewall and antivirus built-in to the OS then this has to be an improvement for many users.

Anti-Virus software included in OS was made for people like you.