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This is a laugh. Imagine building a garbage truck that goes 150 mph and. Then comparing it to a Ferrari testarossa. Dell needs to buy a company that develops Linux apps, such as Corel, and put Linux on all their pc's. As long as it runs windows it will be a garbage truck. The entire winpc market will disappear and leave apple holding the torch. Macs ate selling in record numbers because they are considered as the only computer worth having.

MAC are great, if you don't have a brain, but still want to act like you know something about technology. "So easy even a MAC user can figure it out"

This is great news for larger companies who have to carefully balance budget/ performance when selecting solutions such as these. Gone are the days that it mattered what manufacturer made the PC - bar the software limitation mentioned above. For us, all the software is available on both OSs so it just a hardware decision. There isn't a day that goes by now that we don't curse having bought an iMac instead of a PC as the same money on a PC would have yielded a much more powerful solution that would still perform today instead of the underpowered, overpriced machine we have to deal with till we can get funding approved for a new model. I'm not convinced an all in one is a good choice regardless - no need to keep buying a new expensive monitor every 5 years for example. At any rate, Apple are fashionable and their hardware is well made, but the gulf in performance for their cost is just no longer justifiable in the real world. I suspect designers will keep telling their bosses to buy Apple because that's what they used in college, so it remains to be seen if Dell can really make a difference.

This is great news for larger companies who have to carefully balance budget/ performance when selecting solutions such as these. Gone are the days that it mattered what manufacturer made the PC - bar the software limitation mentioned above. For us, all the software is available on both OSs so it just a hardware decision. There isn't a day that goes by now that we don't curse having bought an iMac instead of a PC as the same money on a PC would have yielded a much more powerful solution that would still perform today instead of the underpowered, overpriced machine we have to deal with till we can get funding approved for a new model. I'm not convinced an all in one is a good choice regardless - no need to keep buying a new expensive monitor every 5 years for example. At any rate, Apple are fashionable and their hardware is well made, but the gulf in performance for their cost is just no longer justifiable in the real world. I suspect designers will keep telling their bosses to buy Apple because that's what they used in college, so it remains to be seen if Dell can really make a difference.

Keith1bxv, on 29 May 2012 - 07:18 AM, said:

lol, PC are great, if you want an ugly piece of junk on your desk that attracts viruses, comes with a bunch of software you don't need preinstalled, crashes so often that the background screen is permanently blue, tries to copy Apple's ideas both in design and operating system and the list goes on and on. lol. "Working on a PC seems sooo easy, when you haven't been on a Mac" lol.

Dude, there's a reason why Apple is the most valuable company in the world and HP and Dell's computers are having a real difficult time in selling. "Dude, you're getting a Dell.....oh no, please not a Dell!" Oh snap! did I go there? yup, I did, oh yes I did!

And btw, the beauty of a Mac is that you don't need to know much about technology to enjoy how well it works. PC users probably know more about the innards of a computer because their machines often break down, they don't have a choice but to learn about it or pay a hefty price to get it fixed....and that happens often, I know because I had one of those garbage cans. Here's something to think about: Do you need to know as much as a mechanic to drive a car? Or know how to take apart a television set to watch it? No you don't. You just need it to work. Same thing applies here. So get off your "high horse" because you're riding a miniature pony. Most of the creative minds in the film and art industry uses Macs and a large majority of college students buy MacBooks, perhaps you're a much older guy and simply don't understand. sorry about that for you.

Grasshopper, on 29 May 2012 - 08:21 AM, said:

Ah, Grasshopper...

I was kinda with you, kinda- not so much. I've be a mac user since february 1984 and have owned macs over the generations. i also own and use windows machines. from xp forward, the windows experience has been pretty reliable. in my opinion the mac interface from its inception is far superior.

but your comment about "much older guy" is just plain stupid, insensitive, and reflects incredibly ignorance on your part. Many of us who paid our dues in the early days of the GUI, touch and voice interfaces, are far more "hip" than "snot nosed kids" who have no idea- not of the tech specs but of the vision of the Mac and the rest of Apple's phenomenal product lines.

This post has been edited by nonseq: 29 May 2012 - 08:29 AM

Grasshopper, on 29 May 2012 - 08:21 AM, said:

You are the epitome of a blind follower of technology...in this case Apple. You are correct that you don't need to know as much as a mechanic to drive a car but it is a really good idea to know that kind of stuff otherwise the mechanic will screw you over. Oh wait...Apple already does that for the severely over-priced products and their "walled garden" of greatness. So I'm sure you picked up by now that I am not an Apple fanboy because the majority of people I see using their products are blind followers that get it because their friends have it and don't understand a single thing about what the technology is and what it does. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but next time you make one make sure you understand what you are saying. Yes their stuff just works but that just makes the consumer a dumb follower.

Ok, there were enough details missing that I had to go hunt this beast down.
http://www.dell.com/...-27-2710-aio/pd

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So Dell wants people to move their content creation to this machine, and include ZERO Firewire ports, and ZERO ThunderBolt ports. Only USB, and HDMI inputs. Yet, they have a TV tuner available, and the remote control comes with it! Looks like a TV more than a computer designed for content creation.

I was also hoping that with a target audience of content creators, it would have a top-quality display:

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OK, so it is a high resolution display - with White LED lighting. Meaning at best, it might cover about 70% of the RGB spectrum. Too bad they didn't use the RGB LED display here, it could have at least faked like it was meant for content creation.

Then the article makes the point of noting the price difference between the iMac and Dell, without considering that the iMac has connectivity that Dell doesn't offer AND Apple gives you a POWERFUL dedicated card with every model. Bluetooth is also standard on the iMac, whereas it is "optional" (meaning PAY ME MORE) with Dell. So what is the total cost of a Dell if you can get it up to the point where it is a direct competitor to an Apple? I am truly curious. Is it even possible to get the XPS one to accept a TB card? Firewire should be an easy task for them though.

Grasshopper, on 29 May 2012 - 08:21 AM, said:

Ignorance and unjustifiable brand loyalty at its finest. Desktops will never be dominated by Macs and no, I don't know a lot about the innards of my computer because it broke, I learned because it is advantageous for me to LEARN about the machines I use every day. Apple is the most valuable company in the world because they rule a new market, and they know how to sell their gadgets.

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I can counter this list you have, please present it. We may agree on some points.

I haven't seen a crash or had a virus in years, and I can make my PC beautiful because I can choose what case goes in to it. Why are you blaming the machine for what sounds like bad browsing habits and poor maintenance? I don't understand why you think this argument supports your crusade.

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No, I dont, but because I do, I end up with a better car because I am smart enough to upgrade and fix it. I have a PC. I know Windows in and out, I can change how my machine behaves by editing the registry and I use the command prompt, so go Google that and pretend to know what you are talking about. I can keep up with the latest components effortlessly besting even the highest end Mac pro in all benchmarks. You have a Mac and you spout old stereotypes and buzzwords that I have heard from fanboys for years. Try me, son.

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Wrong. I am in that industry, and its a Linux and Windows world when real work needs to be done. The Render farms at Pixar are Linux, the workstations at ReelFX are Dells, the workstations at the studio I work at are Dells, Valve built its popular Portal 2 using Dells(this is even in the credits) Macbooks are great laptops, and yes they dominate the scene at my college, but we are talking the real workstations, not consumer grade laptops. The game industry is almost exclusively a Windows world, and 3Ds Max is not even available on OSX, the industry standard for hard surface modeling. I'm sorry but be reasonable, why are treating brands like sports teams or religion?

nonseq, on 29 May 2012 - 08:28 AM, said:

I respect you, sir.