[jooker]

Its unfortunate but as we see these extended release dates and disappointing product improvements I can only be left thinking that perhaps Apple is

dying.

In order to be the best at innovation you usually have to be first to the market, many of the new features of ios are stolen from Android. I want

my old Apple back, the company that would blow me away with their product releases. It wasn't even just the product design but how the product

could change your life. My first Mac was a iisi which had an 80 mb hard drive and I've never bought anything but Mac computers since. I want to

believe that I'm going to be blown away with their new ivy bridge machines but it's getting hard to get excited after seeing the last 4 products

released by apple. I own them all and Siri is an incompetent assistant, apple tv bored me after an hour, I can't see the difference between retina

iPad and my 2. My iMac is just a desktop computer that is solid but uncapable of being the best in its field for anything other than its exterior

design.

Yes I know that Apple is the top company in the world but for how long if they don't continue to innovate like the top company in the world. All of

these lawsuits make me think that apple is running out of ideas and desperately trying to prevent the others from catching up. It would be nice if

they would continue their old tradition of being so far ahead that you don't have to worry about the competition ever catching up.

and the competitors is catching up,Samsung galaxy s3 reached 9 million pre-orders, Facebook is building its new smartphone with half a dozen of

poached iphone engineers, what's worse, the copyist are everywhere( http://tinyurl.com/84tjrmy ) even on amazon ( http://tinyurl.com/77eenwd) .

SO is Apple Is Apple dying without Steve?!

[technify]

Honestly, i do think apple has been dying with merchandize ideas ever since Steve Jobs passed away. Apple hasnt been coming up with revolutionary products like they use to when Steve Jobs was around. They only expand with products that they already have.

[smax013]

technify, on 01 August 2012 - 06:56 PM, said:

Honestly, i do think apple has been dying with merchandize ideas ever since Steve Jobs passed away. Apple hasnt been coming up with revolutionary products like they use to when Steve Jobs was around. They only expand with products that they already have.

Keep in mind that Steve has only really be gone for less than a year, but he was in charge of Apple for about 15 years (during his second tenure). During that 15 years, how many "revolutionary products" did Apple release in that time? I doubt that even if you are really generous, it was not 1 per year. So, less than one year of the "post Jobs" era is not really a good "sample" to judge by.

Of course, there is also the question of what you might call "revolutionary products". Some might call the "Retina" MacBook Pro "revolutionary" (not sure that I do, but some might). Personally, while I really like (and use) a lot of Apple products, I don't consider many of them really "revolutionary" with the exception of the iPad. The iPhone was not really "revolutionary" to me...I could do everything the original iPhone could do years before on my various Treos as well as many things the iPhone could not...although the iPhone could certainly do some things MUCH, MUCH better (i.e. browsing web pages, playing music, etc). While I loved my original iPod, it was not even really all that "revolutionary" to me...there were plenty of MP3 players out there...it just did things a lot better than any other MP3 player (it was WAY easier to use than other MP3 players I had used). It all is a function of one's definition of "revolutionary".

[LiveBrianD]

The thing is, a lot of stuff they've brought to market isn't exactly new, but with marketing and all, and some improvements, they managed to make it mainstream. I never thought the iPad would succeed (come on, next to a $400 netbook, why would I buy it?), but I guess I was wrong.

[smax013]

LiveBrianD, on 03 August 2012 - 07:38 AM, said:

The thing is, a lot of stuff they've brought to market isn't exactly new, but with marketing and all, and some improvements, they managed to make it mainstream. I never thought the iPad would succeed (come on, next to a $400 netbook, why would I buy it?), but I guess I was wrong.

As "amusing" as some of Apple's commercial's are, I don't believe that their marketing has gotten to where they are. They simply put out a product that people like. The fact that you have lots of people who went a bought a newer iPhone or iPad after owning an older one tends to undermine the idea that marketing has a big impact. If people have a bad experience with a product, there is generally no amount of marketing that will convince them to buy a new version.

This is not to say that marketing has no effect, but I believe it has much less effect than many people believe/state.

[LiveBrianD]

Hard to say - having a good user experience and making the device look and seem "cool" has certainly helped them. Their products tend to be trendy in some ways - for instance, if all your friends have it and think it's cool, you'll buy it too, and then you'll tell others it's cool, repeat. I'll admit though - the silver unibody design they use on their macbooks makes cheap glossy consumer laptops look like crap.

At this point, they have enough word of mouth on their products and a great reputation that the advertising probably doesn't matter too much. For instance, have you seen their newest commercials? Even though those aren't very good, I doubt it'll hurt them much, if at all.

[sourabhodigma]

Apple is still doing wonder. Steve did nt leave, he passed away. It also influential for Apple. Apple is one of such companies which involves themselves in R&D.