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Posted 12 June 2012 - 12:42 PM

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  Posted 12 June 2012 - 12:55 PM

I didn't really know there was anything better (for me, at least) until I tried WP7. It proved to be a revelation.

Apple's treading water here, I think.
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  Posted 12 June 2012 - 01:08 PM

All that matters is what mobile OS gets the least amount of malware. What OS gets the most security fixes and updates. And what OS has the best apps/games.

What's it matter how many features an OS has if you have to worry about if your device could get malware or not? Or worry if your device is gonna get an update or not?

I always go by the saying "You get what you pay for".

So I don't mind if there are only small enhancements to OS updates as long as my device is guaranteed updates and gets the least amount of malware. And has the best apps/games at my my disposal.
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  Posted 12 June 2012 - 01:10 PM

"I don't expect Apple to copy Google and Microsoft, but I'd love to see the company help apps function on a higher level"

That's a pretty dumb statement.
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  Posted 12 June 2012 - 04:03 PM

Almost all those "new" features are things I already do with Android 2.3.6. Also, Passbook sounds like the worst idea ever. With all the digital data and hacker attacks lately the last thing I need to do is put all my stuff in a single place on a device I could potentially loose because I carry it everywhere. I feel no remorse for iPhone users who didn't see trend coming from Apple.
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  Posted 12 June 2012 - 06:30 PM

Lipstick on a pig!
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 02:57 AM

View PostMattvm8v, on 12 June 2012 - 01:08 PM, said:

All that matters is what mobile OS gets the least amount of malware. What OS gets the most security fixes and updates. And what OS has the best apps/games.

What's it matter how many features an OS has if you have to worry about if your device could get malware or not? Or worry if your device is gonna get an update or not?

I always go by the saying "You get what you pay for".

So I don't mind if there are only small enhancements to OS updates as long as my device is guaranteed updates and gets the least amount of malware. And has the best apps/games at my my disposal.

So what Android phone did you get?
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  Posted 13 June 2012 - 09:53 AM

How is bringing yourself up to par "Leapfrogging"?

You're dreaming if you think Apple is going to let developers do more integration. Apple hates giving API access to developers.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 10:24 AM

View PostKLanD, on 13 June 2012 - 09:53 AM, said:

How is bringing yourself up to par "Leapfrogging"?

How is iOS 6 merely bringing iOS "up to par"?
If I dispute one single point in a post, that should not be taken as an indication that I agree/disagree with any other point made by that poster or anyone else in the thread. Or anywhere else. Ever.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 10:46 AM

View PostMattvm8v, on 12 June 2012 - 01:08 PM, said:

All that matters is what mobile OS gets the least amount of malware. What OS gets the most security fixes and updates. And what OS has the best apps/games.

What's it matter how many features an OS has if you have to worry about if your device could get malware or not? Or worry if your device is gonna get an update or not?

I always go by the saying "You get what you pay for".

So I don't mind if there are only small enhancements to OS updates as long as my device is guaranteed updates and gets the least amount of malware. And has the best apps/games at my my disposal.

You make a good point or two, kind of. But, as I read your comment I couldn't help but picture a kid playing with a Matchbox car while his friends are playing with remote control cars (not calling iOS inferior to a competitor, it's just an analogy) and he is loudly trying to convince them that the only thing that matters for a toy car is color, and because his is the only green one, it is clearly superior in every way.
I would imagine that if this article was boasting about some cool new iOS features that the competition didn't have, you would be bragging about how those features make the OS so much better than the competition.
Just saying your argument seems a little biased. I for one love features that make a phone more useful.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 10:57 AM

View PostKLanD, on 13 June 2012 - 09:53 AM, said:

How is bringing yourself up to par "Leapfrogging"?

You're dreaming if you think Apple is going to let developers do more integration. Apple hates giving API access to developers.

Just wanted to point out that when the author says: "Apple's iOS 6 will continue leapfrogging with the competition by adding long-requested features as well as new surprises." he is implying that it is a back and forth with both sides continually one-upping each other. So he is conceding that the race for best mobile OS is very neck and neck, and in some ways iOS lacks certain features and vice-versa. Seems pretty reasonable to me. I for one would applaud the authors fairness in that statement, not blast him.
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  Posted 13 June 2012 - 02:43 PM

"Sure, it looks dependable (as always), but it's getting kind of dull."
would you rather it be erratic in performing? unbelievable!
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 07:01 PM

View Postrem736, on 13 June 2012 - 02:43 PM, said:

"Sure, it looks dependable (as always), but it's getting kind of dull."
would you rather it be erratic in performing? unbelievable!

Or it could be both; new and exciting while still being dependable. Android certainly is. ;)
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 05:00 AM

View Postcrosswordbob, on 13 June 2012 - 10:24 AM, said:

View PostKLanD, on 13 June 2012 - 09:53 AM, said:

How is bringing yourself up to par "Leapfrogging"?

How is iOS 6 merely bringing iOS "up to par"?


It's adding minor fixes and minor features that have been available on other platforms for a while now..

How is that leapfrogging?
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 05:05 AM

View PostWallyDuke, on 13 June 2012 - 10:57 AM, said:

View PostKLanD, on 13 June 2012 - 09:53 AM, said:

How is bringing yourself up to par "Leapfrogging"?

You're dreaming if you think Apple is going to let developers do more integration. Apple hates giving API access to developers.

Just wanted to point out that when the author says: "Apple's iOS 6 will continue leapfrogging with the competition by adding long-requested features as well as new surprises." he is implying that it is a back and forth with both sides continually one-upping each other. So he is conceding that the race for best mobile OS is very neck and neck, and in some ways iOS lacks certain features and vice-versa. Seems pretty reasonable to me. I for one would applaud the authors fairness in that statement, not blast him.


I actually missed the "with" the first time i read it. Changes the context greatly.
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 09:39 AM

View PostKLanD, on 14 June 2012 - 05:00 AM, said:

View Postcrosswordbob, on 13 June 2012 - 10:24 AM, said:

View PostKLanD, on 13 June 2012 - 09:53 AM, said:

How is bringing yourself up to par "Leapfrogging"?

How is iOS 6 merely bringing iOS "up to par"?


It's adding minor fixes and minor features that have been available on other platforms for a while now..

How is that leapfrogging?

It's adding features not available on other platforms. If you can't see that, you are fooling yourself. Shame—I thought you were above that.
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Posted 15 June 2012 - 06:37 AM

View Postcrosswordbob, on 14 June 2012 - 09:39 AM, said:

View PostKLanD, on 14 June 2012 - 05:00 AM, said:

View Postcrosswordbob, on 13 June 2012 - 10:24 AM, said:

View PostKLanD, on 13 June 2012 - 09:53 AM, said:

How is bringing yourself up to par "Leapfrogging"?

How is iOS 6 merely bringing iOS "up to par"?


It's adding minor fixes and minor features that have been available on other platforms for a while now..

How is that leapfrogging?

It's adding features not available on other platforms. If you can't see that, you are fooling yourself. Shame—I thought you were above that.


And what feature would that be?
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Posted 15 June 2012 - 11:58 AM

View PostKLanD, on 15 June 2012 - 06:37 AM, said:

View Postcrosswordbob, on 14 June 2012 - 09:39 AM, said:

View PostKLanD, on 14 June 2012 - 05:00 AM, said:

View Postcrosswordbob, on 13 June 2012 - 10:24 AM, said:

View PostKLanD, on 13 June 2012 - 09:53 AM, said:

How is bringing yourself up to par "Leapfrogging"?

How is iOS 6 merely bringing iOS "up to par"?


It's adding minor fixes and minor features that have been available on other platforms for a while now..

How is that leapfrogging?

It's adding features not available on other platforms. If you can't see that, you are fooling yourself. Shame—I thought you were above that.


And what feature would that be?

Say "What was the Giants' score?" to your phone and tell me what happens. Also, see Passbook.
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Posted 15 June 2012 - 12:56 PM

View Postcrosswordbob, on 15 June 2012 - 11:58 AM, said:

Say "What was the Giants' score?" to your phone and tell me what happens. Also, see Passbook.


I get a nice table with the following info:

San Francisco Giants Scores:
Regular season record: 36-28
NL West standing: 2
Win percentage: .563

Recap-
06/12: Astros 3-6 Giants
06/13: Astros 0-10 Giants

etc.. etc..

What did you expect to happen?

Passbook is interesting, but that's more of an app than a feature. I'm sure there is or will be something similar shortly. I already get my boarding passes and do my check in on my smartphone.
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Posted 15 June 2012 - 01:18 PM

View PostKLanD, on 15 June 2012 - 12:56 PM, said:

View Postcrosswordbob, on 15 June 2012 - 11:58 AM, said:

Say "What was the Giants' score?" to your phone and tell me what happens. Also, see Passbook.


I get a nice table with the following info:

San Francisco Giants Scores:
Regular season record: 36-28
NL West standing: 2
Win percentage: .563

Recap-
06/12: Astros 3-6 Giants
06/13: Astros 0-10 Giants

etc.. etc..

What did you expect to happen?


That would appear to be the result of a Google search, not the interactive score-card that iOS 6 has directly integrated.

KLanD said:

Passbook is interesting, but that's more of an app than a feature.


No, it's an OS feature—it provides an API to make it exceptionally easy for third-parties to implement their tickets and make use of system resources such as location to provide geofencing. The app is just the front-end. Does your phone currently detect when you go into (say) Starbucks and automatically bring up a lock-screen option to display your account pass? No? I guess that's new to iOS 6, then.

KLanD said:

I'm sure there is or will be something similar shortly.


What part of leapfrogging confused you?

KLanD said:

I already get my boarding passes and do my check in on my smartphone.


So what? The question is not "can I already do this?", it's "does your OS already provide this more convenient way of doing it?". This is the fallacy that people continually make when trying to convince themselves that Apple has never innovated—they over-generalise the function of whatever product they want to belittle, then declare that someone did something vaguely similar before. It's like claiming the car wasn't an innovation because we already had ways of getting from A to B. Sure, you can get the baseball scores on your phone, but that doesn't mean Siri is nothing new.
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