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Posted 19 June 2012 - 08:18 AM
Oh no! How on Earth will Jeremy Bieber, and Lilly Gaga fans survive?!?
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 08:26 AM
Its ok theres always something new that will allow us to get free music lol its been going on ever since the napster days
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 08:46 AM
this is all very strange, considering that Youtube itself has created a Chrome extension that converts Youtube videos to MP3. It adds a button on the video page that looks exactly like the other buttons on the video page.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 08:58 AM
BuiMunguia, on 19 June 2012 - 08:26 AM, said:
Its ok theres always something new that will allow us to get free music lol its been going on ever since the napster days
You've got some words mixed up here. You say "get free music" where you mean "steal music"
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 08:58 AM
I'm curious...how much is google paying for these videos to be on their site. If they are not paying anything then what right do they have to the distribution of the materials.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 09:05 AM
Oh my God. I can't believe how stupid how stupid YouTube lawyers are. So what do you think you will get with shutting down sites like youtube-mp3.org? Stop mp3 downloading from YouTube? Please, people will always find a way to download for free. If nothing I can use my basic sound recorder to record a perfectly clear mp3 song. Shutting down a youtube-mp3 converter site? Go on, but you will have no use.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 09:28 AM
RanHerti, on 19 June 2012 - 08:13 AM, said:
Real player (www.real.com) does a fine job. What's the big deal? Trying to recoup facebook losses?
Ssshhhh. They don't need to know that. ;^p
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 09:49 AM
lamorpa, on 19 June 2012 - 08:58 AM, said:
BuiMunguia, on 19 June 2012 - 08:26 AM, said:
Its ok theres always something new that will allow us to get free music lol its been going on ever since the napster days
You've got some words mixed up here. You say "get free music" where you mean "steal music"
Define word "steal"
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 10:15 AM
lamorpa, on 19 June 2012 - 08:58 AM, said:
BuiMunguia, on 19 June 2012 - 08:26 AM, said:
Its ok theres always something new that will allow us to get free music lol its been going on ever since the napster days
You've got some words mixed up here. You say "get free music" where you mean "steal music"
this statement is obviously flawed.
shall i point it out anothertime? nothing has been taken from the producers. they just didn't gain anything. Thus: they didn't steal it.
aside from that: there is still no evidence to suggest that piracy damages sales. in fact, the opposite seems to be true, as shown in some studies.
and, just as a finisher: most piracy is being done by teenagers. most don't have the resources to actually buy even a fraction of the content they consume... through piracy however, they consume and get "the taste" for it. And once they have a job, they'll start buying the crap the industries produce.
piracy is just an excuse to sue people, which is immensely profitable to the music industry.
This post has been edited by ShiroYami: 19 June 2012 - 10:17 AM
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 10:25 AM
ShiroYami, on 19 June 2012 - 10:15 AM, said:
shall i point it out anothertime? nothing has been taken from the producers. they just didn't gain anything. Thus: they didn't steal it.
aside from that: there is still no evidence to suggest that piracy damages sales. in fact, the opposite seems to be true, as shown in some studies.
and, just as a finisher: most piracy is being done by teenagers. most don't have the resources to actually buy even a fraction of the content they consume... through piracy however, they consume and get "the taste" for it. And once they have a job, they'll start buying the crap the industries produce.
piracy is just an excuse to sue people, which is immensely profitable to the music industry.
aside from that: there is still no evidence to suggest that piracy damages sales. in fact, the opposite seems to be true, as shown in some studies.
and, just as a finisher: most piracy is being done by teenagers. most don't have the resources to actually buy even a fraction of the content they consume... through piracy however, they consume and get "the taste" for it. And once they have a job, they'll start buying the crap the industries produce.
piracy is just an excuse to sue people, which is immensely profitable to the music industry.
Exactly. As a teenager, I agree with what you're saying. For instance, there's a 0% chance of me spending $60 on a game. Do that or put DRM in it, and you'll eliminate any chance of me buying it. Also, although I pirate quite a bit of music, if I couldn't, I'd just stream it off Pandora or something. Another thing is that piracy works as free advertising for them in a lot of ways.
In the movie industry, another problem is that you can't buy a copy of a movie without DRM anywhere. Did they ever think that doing that, as well as putting ads and crap that you can't skip through on dvds/blurays that people buy, will encourage people to pirate? The music industry finally gave in and started letting people buy mp3s, DRM free, and if anything it's helped them. If only those corporate executives had half a brain...
This post has been edited by LiveBrianD: 19 June 2012 - 10:25 AM
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 10:29 AM
BillyJean, on 19 June 2012 - 07:56 AM, said:
Hm. So it's not ok to steam music because YouTube has a digital piece of paper that says so... but it is ok for Google to steal books because...they also have a paper that says so?
I tried to laugh, but I couldn't. You are comparing apples to oranges in this case. The details and facts between them are so different that I do not see how you can compare the two situations.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 10:29 AM
ShiroYami, on 19 June 2012 - 10:15 AM, said:
lamorpa, on 19 June 2012 - 08:58 AM, said:
BuiMunguia, on 19 June 2012 - 08:26 AM, said:
Its ok theres always something new that will allow us to get free music lol its been going on ever since the napster days
You've got some words mixed up here. You say "get free music" where you mean "steal music"
this statement is obviously flawed.
shall i point it out anothertime? nothing has been taken from the producers. they just didn't gain anything. Thus: they didn't steal it.
aside from that: there is still no evidence to suggest that piracy damages sales. in fact, the opposite seems to be true, as shown in some studies.
and, just as a finisher: most piracy is being done by teenagers. most don't have the resources to actually buy even a fraction of the content they consume... through piracy however, they consume and get "the taste" for it. And once they have a job, they'll start buying the crap the industries produce.
piracy is just an excuse to sue people, which is immensely profitable to the music industry.
Same nonsense, different day. The thing that has been taken is the royalties due on this illegal copy of a copyrighted material. Repeating the same tired old arguments about, "I personally believe it doesn't hurt sales" (self-serving from a mile away, and irrelevant - you're not the owner of the material, so it's not your choice), "they don't have the money, so they wouldn't buy it anyway" (as though rationalizing stealing makes it something else), the most laughable, "it's crap music" (so you personally decide it is worthless, but still download it because you want it, but it's worthless, but you still download it...)
The only difficult part here is determining if these arguments, on the while, are more laughable or simply stupid.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 10:58 AM
lamorpa, on 19 June 2012 - 10:29 AM, said:
ShiroYami, on 19 June 2012 - 10:15 AM, said:
lamorpa, on 19 June 2012 - 08:58 AM, said:
BuiMunguia, on 19 June 2012 - 08:26 AM, said:
Its ok theres always something new that will allow us to get free music lol its been going on ever since the napster days
You've got some words mixed up here. You say "get free music" where you mean "steal music"
this statement is obviously flawed.
shall i point it out anothertime? nothing has been taken from the producers. they just didn't gain anything. Thus: they didn't steal it.
aside from that: there is still no evidence to suggest that piracy damages sales. in fact, the opposite seems to be true, as shown in some studies.
and, just as a finisher: most piracy is being done by teenagers. most don't have the resources to actually buy even a fraction of the content they consume... through piracy however, they consume and get "the taste" for it. And once they have a job, they'll start buying the crap the industries produce.
piracy is just an excuse to sue people, which is immensely profitable to the music industry.
Same nonsense, different day. The thing that has been taken is the royalties due on this illegal copy of a copyrighted material. Repeating the same tired old arguments about, "I personally believe it doesn't hurt sales" (self-serving from a mile away, and irrelevant - you're not the owner of the material, so it's not your choice), "they don't have the money, so they wouldn't buy it anyway" (as though rationalizing stealing makes it something else), the most laughable, "it's crap music" (so you personally decide it is worthless, but still download it because you want it, but it's worthless, but you still download it...)
The only difficult part here is determining if these arguments, on the while, are more laughable or simply stupid.
WELLL, if google really wants to crack down, how about removing all those videos that aren't from the producer on an approved source? THATS the place to start
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 11:16 AM
AshPanGeek, on 19 June 2012 - 10:58 AM, said:
WELLL, if google really wants to crack down, how about removing all those videos that aren't from the producer on an approved source? THATS the place to start
Haven't they been doing that for years? I always like to go back to videos I'd previously enjoyed....only to find that they've been removed (and often the uploader's account suspended) due to copyright complaints. That's nothing new. If they took their time doing that, it's probably because they didn't want to encourage people to download more often, thinking that they'd need to get videos and music now that would be out of reach later on.
