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Microsoft And Google Suddenly Want To Be Like Apple

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 01:12 PM

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  Posted 19 June 2012 - 01:32 PM

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  Posted 19 June 2012 - 01:48 PM

Articles like this are why PCWorld is no longer relevant.
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  Posted 19 June 2012 - 01:50 PM

Without Microsoft and Android PC world would have been shut a long time ago. More jobless to come.
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  Posted 19 June 2012 - 01:51 PM

Without Microsoft and Android PC world would have been shut a long time ago. More jobless to come.
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  Posted 19 June 2012 - 01:59 PM

wow i just love the look of your keypads. They are very attractive with different colors.
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  Posted 19 June 2012 - 02:02 PM

I can predict a future where users will choose between competeing "Ecosystems"... few examples:
1. Microsoft with its own hardware running windows
2. Dell+HP running some polished linux (Ubuntu?)
3. Google+ASUS+HTC running Android
4. Samsung running Bada
5. Apple running iOS
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 02:04 PM

View PostWayneSala, on 19 June 2012 - 01:48 PM, said:

Articles like this are why PCWorld is no longer relevant.

Please explain why this makes PCWorld no longer relevant. I am not trying to get in some Apple/MSFT fan fight. I would like to know since you didnt explain why.
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  Posted 19 June 2012 - 02:41 PM

Apple has its fanboys. Microsoft the same. I do not see the benefit to the user of any company being involved in both software and hardware, rather that it quickly reduces competition and fewer user choices - in that few companies that specialize in hardware only can offer the level of competition needed foe a wide spectrum of products.
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  Posted 19 June 2012 - 02:46 PM

"For the first time, Microsoft will make its own Windows PCs."

Except for the first Surface in 2007.

"On Monday, Microsoft shocked the tech world by announcing a pair of Windows 8 tablets, both dubbed Microsoft Surface.................And yet, anyone who's paid attention to the tech industry for the last five years shouldn't be too surprised."

How could the world be shocked by this news, if they shoulds be too surprised?
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 03:04 PM

View PostGetReal, on 19 June 2012 - 02:41 PM, said:

Apple has its fanboys. Microsoft the same. I do not see the benefit to the user of any company being involved in both software and hardware, rather that it quickly reduces competition and fewer user choices - in that few companies that specialize in hardware only can offer the level of competition needed foe a wide spectrum of products.


You don't see the benefit? Ask the iP4 owners, all of whom will be able to upgrade to iOS6 when it is released, while most owners of top of the line Android Phones are still waiting for Ice Cream Sandwich (AOS4)even though Jelly Bean (AOS4.3) is already queued up. Or iPad owners who have all upgraded to iOS5 while many tablet owners are still stuck in 2.3 with no hope of ICS, much less Jelly Bean.

Then there is the accessory market. The iPhone and iPad have more accessories available for them than every Android device combined. And that's because there is one form factor, one port style. Apple's control over the hardware has meant standardization between generations of devices and allowed the accessory market to flourish.

Personally I have never owned an iPhone or iPad. I have an EVO 4G, and before that a Palm Pre, a Blackberry and a Palm Treo 650. I am no iFanboy. But even so i have no problem seeing the benefot of controling your hardware.
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#12 User is offline   kronoscornelius 

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  Posted 19 June 2012 - 03:19 PM

I think MS and iOS will fight for their turf with innovation, but the business strategy of standardizing the OS with respect for the parties involved as Google is doing with Android will win out in the end.

Nobody puts much though into what standard to use for door dimensions, Home Depot or Lowes. Similarly, in less than 5 years people will simply assume Android is the standard on top of which they develop software for tablets, phones, computers, microwave ovens, coffee makers, remote control cars, boats.. etc.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 06:15 PM

View PostMikeOrozcot8h2, on 19 June 2012 - 02:46 PM, said:

"For the first time, Microsoft will make its own Windows PCs."

Except for the first Surface in 2007.

"On Monday, Microsoft shocked the tech world by announcing a pair of Windows 8 tablets, both dubbed Microsoft Surface.................And yet, anyone who's paid attention to the tech industry for the last five years shouldn't be too surprised."

How could the world be shocked by this news, if they shoulds be too surprised?


1. I wouldn't consider the table-top Surface to be a personal computer--I don't know any individual who owns one--but we can agree to disagree there.

2. Heheh. I thought someone might call me out on that. I think the shock was in the out-of-the-blue nature of the announcement, and the fact that none of the rumors really had it right. But when you actually consider what was announced, it makes a lot of sense.

This post has been edited by JaredNewman: 19 June 2012 - 06:16 PM

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 06:20 PM

View PostJitBhattacharjee, on 19 June 2012 - 02:02 PM, said:

I can predict a future where users will choose between competeing "Ecosystems"... few examples:
1. Microsoft with its own hardware running windows
2. Dell+HP running some polished linux (Ubuntu?)
3. Google+ASUS+HTC running Android
4. Samsung running Bada
5. Apple running iOS


I think it's already happening. It's not uncommon to hear of people who are reluctant to switch between iPhone/Android/Windows Phone because they've already invested in the ecosystem. That consumer lock-in is exactly what the tech giants are competing to get. I'm actually not too crazy about this, and have tried to remain somewhat agnostic (I primarily use an Android phone, an iPad and a Windows desktop and laptop, and use platform-independent services such as MOG for music and Kindle for books when possible), but that's a story for another day.
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  Posted 19 June 2012 - 07:11 PM

"Microsoft and Google Suddenly Want to Be Like Apple"

Are you serious? Microsoft Surface is a full pledge pc. why would you compare it to something so inferior. in terms of specs?.. can the Ipad download torrent and watch porn on the same time without tweaking.. [censored] idiot.. comparing oranges to peanuts.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 07:33 PM

View PostGetReal, on 19 June 2012 - 02:41 PM, said:

Apple has its fanboys. Microsoft the same. I do not see the benefit to the user of any company being involved in both software and hardware, rather that it quickly reduces competition and fewer user choices - in that few companies that specialize in hardware only can offer the level of competition needed foe a wide spectrum of products.


You hit the nail right on the head. The only people benefiting from this are the companies themselves. I personally like my choice of product. If only a select few are controlling the market we will soon find that the technology advancement with these products will likely slow it pace due to the lack of mass competition.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 07:50 PM

View Postbankerdanny, on 19 June 2012 - 03:04 PM, said:

View PostGetReal, on 19 June 2012 - 02:41 PM, said:

Apple has its fanboys. Microsoft the same. I do not see the benefit to the user of any company being involved in both software and hardware, rather that it quickly reduces competition and fewer user choices - in that few companies that specialize in hardware only can offer the level of competition needed foe a wide spectrum of products.


You don't see the benefit? Ask the iP4 owners, all of whom will be able to upgrade to iOS6 when it is released, while most owners of top of the line Android Phones are still waiting for Ice Cream Sandwich (AOS4)even though Jelly Bean (AOS4.3) is already queued up. Or iPad owners who have all upgraded to iOS5 while many tablet owners are still stuck in 2.3 with no hope of ICS, much less Jelly Bean.

Then there is the accessory market. The iPhone and iPad have more accessories available for them than every Android device combined. And that's because there is one form factor, one port style. Apple's control over the hardware has meant standardization between generations of devices and allowed the accessory market to flourish.

Personally I have never owned an iPhone or iPad. I have an EVO 4G, and before that a Palm Pre, a Blackberry and a Palm Treo 650. I am no iFanboy. But even so i have no problem seeing the benefot of controling your hardware.


Is that how you decide on what product to buy, how many accessories are available for it?

As far as the argument about OS upgrading; I own a Samsung Galaxy SII 4G Touch and with just a small amount of know how one could be running ICS(AOS4.0.3), I have been for a good while, even though it officially should be running Gingerbread (AOS2.3.6). In addition if you look at the new features in the iOS, whether in version 5 or 6, Apple is merely just giving options that are already present on many phones to date(with the exception of Siri). They just have ingenious marketing strategies that lead people to believe that they are the first to do so.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 08:17 PM

View PostWaldoAberman, on 19 June 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

"Microsoft and Google Suddenly Want to Be Like Apple"

Are you serious? Microsoft Surface is a full pledge pc. why would you compare it to something so inferior. in terms of specs?.. can the Ipad download torrent and watch porn on the same time without tweaking.. [censored] idiot.. comparing oranges to peanuts.

It's 'full-fledged' not 'full pledge'... you need to be more careful about this sort of thing before you go ahead and call someone else an idiot.

This post has been edited by artzy65: 19 June 2012 - 08:50 PM

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  Posted 19 June 2012 - 10:27 PM

u forget samsung.
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  Posted 19 June 2012 - 10:27 PM

U forgot samsung.
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