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It hardly matters anyway, as hardly anyone will be buying their phones in the short future they have left.

"melgross" couldn't be farther from the truth - the following companies, corporations have just renewed their contracts with RIM:

FBI, CIA, US Govt, Canadian Govt, CSIS, Interior Health in BC, the list goes on and on - the reason they continue to use BlackBerry's is the fact that the platform is THE only secure one available to businesses and organizations that have data that needs to be protected.

The RIM 'BES' system is the only one that offer true security.

You never hear about peoples emails, texts, pictures being hacked of a BlackBerry for a reason.

Some of us need real phones, with real email, and REAL security.

Dave M

I dont know how they remain in business, everyone that i know in the corporate world hates their black berry because everyone can reach them 24/7.

I would have changed to one a long time ago but my provided wanted to change 10.00/mo for the BB tax

melgross, on 21 June 2012 - 02:58 PM, said:

Quite mistaken - the bulk of its 78 million or so subscribers are simply waiting for BBerry 10, and then will buy their phones.

No physical keyboards just limits a device's utility and marketplace. Microsoft, take notice.

Predictive/Suggestive text sucks. On Screen Keyboards Suck. The prefer the precision of a physical keyboard. I have a Torch and it has both, which is the option I expect from BB10 down the road.

Android phones provide variety in hardware and will continue to do so, I don't have any issues with them except security. If RIM blows it I will go android, but a keyboard based android.

Apple, at the core, its philosophy, its Software, and hardware, contribute to dumbed down interfaces and proprietary crap.
Begone

Windows phone, RT, or whatever is a joke, to late, begone.

I'll be getting this phone regardless. After having a crap ton of Android phones and several iPhones, I still have yet to rival the joy of having a Blackberry. And i honestly have no clue why...

DaveMcIntyre, on 21 June 2012 - 04:24 PM, said:

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the renewals are simply because the bureaucracy of those organizations is so large, they cannot move rapidly to adopt newer technologies.

In time, they will move to more contemporary solutions, particularly when RIM is gone.

Setting the record straight:

And, by the way, you never hear about people's emails, text or pictures being "hacked" on any device. There has never been one incident in recorded history where a mobile device has been "hacked". If you are referring to downloaded apps reading contact lists and passing the info on, yes, that's true, but it's because of the app, not the device's security.

Under controlled app availability, like Apple or the upcoming Windows mobile services, those apps are quickly identified and removed.

Also, remember that RIM is only too willing to allow governments to have access to your confidential information. I believe India was the first.

RIM is a dinosaur... RIP

xyberviri, on 21 June 2012 - 04:37 PM, said:

For starters it's "provider"secondly it's "charge".Now that this is out of the way you've proved why people like you work for people like me. You have also made a strong case for physical keyboards. There is no point in going on any further.

Well I am a blind follower or die-hard fan of no single thing, they all have their uses, they are just tools. I have a Mac Book Pro and It is awesome at what I use it for. I have a Windows PC and it is amazing at what I use it for. No Physical keyboard? Well I have two blogs and sit at a desk I type, A LOT with a mouse and keyboard I mean 4000- word blog entries, 10,000 word essays, I write lyrics for my buddy's band. I have a book of poetry. I have written two screenplays and am working on a second draft of a novel, and I could not imagine doing that with a tablet touch screen, I do however do it on my Bold 9900. Dragging and dropping sentences around, editing and working on the nuances of grammar, timing, style and punctuation (which I am not bothering to do with this comment). I work in construction as well and when I am up on a scaffold composing elaborate notes and deficiency lists and Word Docs, I am glad I am not using my Android tablet (which is great at some things). Will BlackBerry fail and will all physical keyboards do so as well in the next year or two? Ok, maybe but my question is if there are no physical keyboards in two years, will there be physical keyboards and mice (trackpads) in 10 years? If RIM goes the way of the Dodo bird and so does the physical keyboard I guarantee that Apple, Android, Motorolla or someone will start up with exactly what RIM is doing again and not be as good at it. Either that or there will be no writers, Newspaper Editors etc. in the future either. I want this keyboatd and trackpad in a device and I also want a killer communication device, which the BlackBerry is. I am a huge music lover and have a massive collection of audio books and lectures. So for that purpose I have not one, but two 160 GB ipods for that purpose and will get a third soon; I had a couple 32 GB ipod touches, but for that I am just about the music so I ditched them for high capacity – easy to use 160 GB wheel devices. Is the iphone a better phone than the BlackBerry? Well it’s a better toy, for what it does the BlackBerry is an epic device, with a deep operating system, which someone on here said looked like it was over a decade old, not sure what phone they were using in 2000-2002, but not the same one I was, my Windows machine a decade ago was far inferior so stop talking stupid.

DaveMcIntyre, on 21 June 2012 - 04:24 PM, said:

Blackberry isn't my first choice for personal use (I have a Galaxy Nexus), but if I was deploying smartphones in a corporate environment I would definitely go with RIM. You hit the nail right on the head - Blackberry Enterprise Server offers true data security that cannot be found on any other mobile device, and e-mail that is second to none. Trend Micro recently did a security comparison of iOS, Android, Blackberry, and Windows Phone. Their findings were not surprising:

1. Blackberry
2. iOS
3. Windows Phone 7
4. Android

This is one reason why BlackBerry has such high corporate market share, and it is the corporate market that will keep RIM alive, even if it does struggle for a time.

It's amazing how people want to hate RIM, it's almost a personal thing, very strange actually, almost a psychological compensation is being fulfilled. For me it is a tool like a table saw, a ladder or a tool belt. I am not purely a DeWalt or Makita, or Milwaukee user, I find that my Makita framing saw is better than the others, my Delta table saw with a uni-fence is the best shop saw, but my the DeWalt portable table saw is best for a portable saw. BlackBerry is just a tool for me and one that works better than anything else I've tried for my uses, that's all. If RIM disappears I repeat that someone within a few years will do exactly the same thing as they did, likely Motorola or Nokia, who were both once number one and seems to doing quite fine at being number 4 or 5.

This post has been edited by TOBTW: 21 July 2012 - 05:42 AM