TonyO, on 03 August 2012 - 11:26 AM, said:
I too am thinking about replacing my printer. I have a new HP D7160 which works as it's designed to. I don't do very much printing and I have a problem with shelling out $70 to replace ink carts that have only printed out 4 or 7 pages.... but the ink has "EXPIRED" and I'm not allowed to print until I replace with new ink. It seems several printer companies have adopted the business practice of: You buy a printer you are a member of a club and we will charge you dues in exchange for ink. You must buy new ink weather you use it or not.
I say NO, with the price of a new printer that comes with ink so close to the price of the replacement ink, I think I would rather just buy a new printer once or twice a year rather than pay more for replacing ink every 2 months because someone thinks the INK will grow MOLD and is no longer safe to EAT. I want out of the INK trap. If that means I copy to CD or flash drive and then go to speedy printing, with the current cost of ink I can afford to take a cab and still save money.
So what's the solution? I would like to see a listing of printers compiled, one that shows the cost of the printer, the cost of the ink, and are refill kits available for the ink? Is the ink set to expire, or is the ink cart engineered to make the ink evaporate, or some other designed-in flaw that prevents the end user from being able to use what they have paid for. It's time for big business to stop exploiting the customer as a cash cow. If they can't keep in business by selling the printer then the cost of ink isn't the solution. I'll go to another business that will charge a reasonable 10 cents per page and not the $10 DOLLARS I'm currently paying per page so I can claim to be a member of the HP club.
What other printers are available that will get me out of the trap of being over charged for replacement carts, weather toner or ink? If it's reasonably priced carts that suits me fine, if I can get refills rather than replacements then so much the better. If there are other options that I haven't considered then I would like to hear about them.
I wouldn't object to going back to the good old days of dot matrix printing with a ribbon. Yeah color is nice once in a while, but I don't want my printer to shut down because I've run out of yellow.
I have a Canon MP620B. It is now nearing 4 years old. In that 4 years, I replace my ink tanks once a year after printing out all of my Christmas cards. During the rest of the year, it sees maybe 3 pages printed per month typically. I do occasionally print off photos, but that is a rare occurrence. In this time, I have never had one "replace ink because it is old" message, nor a clogged head. ALL of my tanks are transparent. When the printer states it is empty, I keep printing until it is TRULY empty (sometimes as many as 10 photo's!). At which point I pull out my cartridge and see that it is OBVIOUSLY empty. On top of all this, these are very large cartilages with about 9ml of ink for each color. As a comparison point, the last HP I looked at had 4.5ml TOTAL ink for three colors.
I highly recommend Canon. This is my whopping second printer, the first one lasted 7 years, and made it across three moves and two countries. The last one saw monthly usage in the 40-50 pictures per month range though, and I ended up with the tiny output rollers getting worn out...
Brian gets upset easily, disregard him. Canon has had top-notch support for their products as long as they are reasonably recent. I sure don't see Panasonic supporting any of their 20+ year old dot-matrix printers in Windows 8. Nor would I ask them to do so. Top it off, my now ancient Canon s750 (which is roughly 11 years old) still has working Windows 7 X64 drivers... Obviously I don't use that sucker any more, as it is the one I wore out. Though I easily could continue to use it should I desire...
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