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Posted 08 July 2012 - 11:51 AM

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  Posted 08 July 2012 - 12:09 PM

I think one of the factors is the current Windows version.

Vista was a mess, so Windows users were eager to get a different OS, thus the high number of people who used Windows 7 beta.
Then, windows 7 turned out to be good, if not great, so the people aren't enthusiastic about another one.

That said, I've been using Windows 8 RP as my primary OS for a month now. I skipped DP and CP.

I thought people were exaggerating when they say Metro for desktop sucks.
Come on, it can't be that bad.
Then I get RP. Tell you what, Metro for desktop does really suck. Very inconvenient.
The only "Metro app" I have is desktop. It sits alone in my Start Screen.

I like pretty much everything about Windows 8 (built in SE, faster boot, more control in transferring files) but the metro is a real turn off.

Microsoft, please, listen. With all the competition around you, you can't afford another "Vista".

I'll probably get a Surface, but Windows 7 stays on my desktop.
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This comment was written on a desktop using Windows 8 RP, running Firefox. IE10 has issues loading images in my rig. ugh.

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Posted 08 July 2012 - 12:28 PM

View Postporcupins, on 08 July 2012 - 12:09 PM, said:

I'll probably get a Surface, but Windows 7 stays on my desktop.

I'm still pretty much in your camp. I definitely want either a Surface RT or Transformer 600 (unless something better shows up), and I'm still reluctant to upgrade my desktops. However, I've got more than one desktop to play with and I don't think I'll be able to pass up the forty-buck special when it releases, so one of the desktops is likely to be sacrificed to the gods.
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Posted 08 July 2012 - 12:35 PM

View Postporcupins, on 08 July 2012 - 12:09 PM, said:

I think one of the factors is the current Windows version.

Vista was a mess, so Windows users were eager to get a different OS, thus the high number of people who used Windows 7 beta.
Then, windows 7 turned out to be good, if not great, so the people aren't enthusiastic about another one.

I agree. Win8 isn't bad, it's just that Win7 is that GOOD, even if Vista hadn't been a point of comparison.

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  Posted 08 July 2012 - 01:43 PM

But, but, but...Metro is..., well it's, ... it's **keyboard friendly**!!! Um, yeah, so was Word Perfect back when everybody had printed KB shortcut stickers over their function keys. And then the mouse was invented. Anyone pretending Metro is not a step backward for hardcore desktop users is a shill.
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  Posted 08 July 2012 - 02:13 PM

I think the biggest issue in my mind is the interface. For those of you out there with touch screens the metro style works. The rest of us are screwed without it. Yes, you can use your mouse and keyboard but its not made for it.
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  Posted 08 July 2012 - 03:08 PM

I have been using Vista for 4 years! It's not that bad!!
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Posted 08 July 2012 - 03:17 PM

View PostMichaelPfeiffer, on 08 July 2012 - 03:08 PM, said:

I have been using Vista for 4 years! It's not that bad!!

Same here. Granted Vista was awful in the beginning but right now, Vista just purrs right along with no issues or hiccups.
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  Posted 08 July 2012 - 03:30 PM

This article misses the mark on analysis. Windows 8 is designed for a touch interface and even touch interfaces of a year ago are not sensitive enough to take advantage of the software, so it should suprise anyone that people with old computers aren't giving it a test. It's not and never will be an apples to apples comparison.
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Posted 08 July 2012 - 03:36 PM

View PostMichaelPfeiffer, on 08 July 2012 - 03:08 PM, said:

I have been using Vista for 4 years! It's not that bad!!


Vista is not bad. It WAS. As far as Microsoft is concerned, it wasn't the success they were expecting.
Not to mention the stigma it left.

We are talking about product launches here, how the product is able to deliver the moment it ships.

That was what everyone was saying, that Windows Metro might be the new Vista means there is a big possibility that product will fail at launch, make some people angry and disappointed, and hurt Microsoft.

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  Posted 08 July 2012 - 04:38 PM

Win8 will be GREAT with stouch screens A+ - Now HP & Dell and other need to make more lap tops with touch screens and HOME computers lower in price (touch screen wise ) and it will be A OK to use daily! Keyboard use Mouse use will be OK but it's not the same and slugesh. Win8 is faster to load / reboot / open new pages / surfing: Win8 Touch Screen will be a WINNER......
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  Posted 08 July 2012 - 05:28 PM

I've been using Win 8 previews since it launched last year and upgraded along the way as they came. It is a great OS in my opinion. I also agree with porcupins on the point of the numbers being skewed because people were trying to get a better os by moving on to beta 7. I also would like to add IMO that year by year more people are getting computers and getting online that might not be interested in playing the beta game or really doing anything more then check emails, socialize and surf the web so those numbers might be skewed by that point as well. As far as Win 8 being made for touch I really don't find that relevent and have not had much problems adapting to Win 8 with a mouse and keyboard. I don't find it better or worse then Win 7, just different. My positive reaction to Win 8 comes from the great boot time and the fact that Win 8 is not nearly the resource hog of previous os's. For the $40 upgrade I know I will be buying in.
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Posted 08 July 2012 - 05:47 PM

View PostBoletusedulis, on 08 July 2012 - 01:43 PM, said:

But, but, but...Metro is..., well it's, ... it's **keyboard friendly**!!! Um, yeah, so was Word Perfect back when everybody had printed KB shortcut stickers over their function keys. And then the mouse was invented. Anyone pretending Metro is not a step backward for hardcore desktop users is a shill.

Or we use it and like it.
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Posted 08 July 2012 - 05:51 PM

View PostMichaelRousseau, on 08 July 2012 - 05:28 PM, said:

I've been using Win 8 previews since it launched last year and upgraded along the way as they came. It is a great OS in my opinion. I also agree with porcupins on the point of the numbers being skewed because people were trying to get a better os by moving on to beta 7. I also would like to add IMO that year by year more people are getting computers and getting online that might not be interested in playing the beta game or really doing anything more then check emails, socialize and surf the web so those numbers might be skewed by that point as well. As far as Win 8 being made for touch I really don't find that relevent and have not had much problems adapting to Win 8 with a mouse and keyboard. I don't find it better or worse then Win 7, just different. My positive reaction to Win 8 comes from the great boot time and the fact that Win 8 is not nearly the resource hog of previous os's. For the $40 upgrade I know I will be buying in.

I am with you on that one. I will be buying it for many of my machines.
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Posted 08 July 2012 - 06:08 PM

View Postken1569, on 08 July 2012 - 04:38 PM, said:

Win8 will be GREAT with stouch screens A+ - Now HP & Dell and other need to make more lap tops with touch screens and HOME computers lower in price (touch screen wise ) and it will be A OK to use daily! Keyboard use Mouse use will be OK but it's not the same and slugesh. Win8 is faster to load / reboot / open new pages / surfing: Win8 Touch Screen will be a WINNER......


It's easy to tell that this is either a paid stooge or a kid. Touchscreens on laptops and desktops are pretty much useless for average general use. Hence, the term "Gorilla Arm". Keyboards and mice are much faster and easier to use on desktops and laptops. On smartphones and tablets, touchscreens are the only way to go. Beyond that, "N'er the twain shall meet." Sorry, all you starry-eyed technophiles, but you've jumped "a bridge too far" this time...
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Posted 08 July 2012 - 06:16 PM

IMO, the main reason so few users have downloaded and tried the Win 8 preview is that so few know it's coming. Of my customers, only a few have even heard of it.

The reason for this is that M$ does not WANT anyone to know about it. Their behavior in this "upgrade" very plainly demonstrates that they intend to implement the all-platform Metro UI regardless of what anyone thinks about it. They want to "slam" it onto everyone as quickly and covertly as possible -- because they have absolutely no intentions of going back to the Windows "Legacy" UI. They are expecting a huge number of people to hate it -- and they don't care...

No surprises here....
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Posted 08 July 2012 - 06:21 PM

View PostDaenaSmith52zq, on 08 July 2012 - 03:17 PM, said:

View PostMichaelPfeiffer, on 08 July 2012 - 03:08 PM, said:

I have been using Vista for 4 years! It's not that bad!!

Same here. Granted Vista was awful in the beginning but right now, Vista just purrs right along with no issues or hiccups.


Vista was awful in its first version. (Keep in mind that PCW and other IT media expected it to be as wonderful as Win 8.) In it's final version, it's "acceptable" for average end-users -- but not for pros and businesses...
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Posted 08 July 2012 - 06:33 PM

View Postwaldojim, on 08 July 2012 - 05:51 PM, said:

View PostMichaelRousseau, on 08 July 2012 - 05:28 PM, said:

I've been using Win 8 previews since it launched last year and upgraded along the way as they came. It is a great OS in my opinion. I also agree with porcupins on the point of the numbers being skewed because people were trying to get a better os by moving on to beta 7. I also would like to add IMO that year by year more people are getting computers and getting online that might not be interested in playing the beta game or really doing anything more then check emails, socialize and surf the web so those numbers might be skewed by that point as well. As far as Win 8 being made for touch I really don't find that relevent and have not had much problems adapting to Win 8 with a mouse and keyboard. I don't find it better or worse then Win 7, just different. My positive reaction to Win 8 comes from the great boot time and the fact that Win 8 is not nearly the resource hog of previous os's. For the $40 upgrade I know I will be buying in.

I am with you on that one. I will be buying it for many of my machines.


Anyone who has posted an average of 9 messages per day, every day, for the past 40+ months (and that's just on PCW) is obviously either a "professional commenter" or a PC enthusiast... Not someone who understands the needs of the *average* end-user, or works with them on a daily basis...
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Posted 08 July 2012 - 06:49 PM

I don't have the time nor interest to check it out, but it seems to me that the interval between the release of Windows 7 and Windows 8 is the shortest in the history of Windows. If that's true, it says something important -- though few will understand why. Some *objective* journalist should look into this, and the typical repercussions of platform changes this dramatic being implemented in such a short time...
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Posted 08 July 2012 - 06:54 PM

View Postronin7752, on 08 July 2012 - 06:33 PM, said:

Anyone who has posted an average of 9 messages per day, every day, for the past 40+ months (and that's just on PCW) is obviously either a "professional commenter" or a PC enthusiast... Not someone who understands the needs of the *average* end-user, or works with them on a daily basis...

Or happens to work an off-shift and has lots of free time.

You can hide behind "average user" all you want to. As it stands, my wife is an AVERAGE user, and LOVES Windows 8. When I have friends over, THEY enjoy Windows 8. Given a few minutes to understand what changed. Some didn't even need explanation, they sat down, figured it out within minutes, and loved it. You can HIDE behind any excuse you want to use to hate on it, but in the end YOU are no more qualified to discuss "average" than I am.
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