[PCWorld]

Post your comments for Apple's Green Flub Adds to Its Checkered Record here

[MichaelDurbin]

That settles it! I'm ordering a new Macbook.

[JoTeri]

Well whats new!! Steve Jobs did not exactly cotton to giving to charity either.

[Genoshay2k]

I'm sorry, but the fact that Apple helped create this Organization and then backed out of it tells you Money is more than the Environment. Also with it's China issues, there is no real way to see how green China is. Looking at the employees is one thing. CHecking enviromental conditions there is a total another. China wouldn't release those standards no matter who you are...

[JackNFranFarrell]

I once worked for a Cal Tech trained Asian American who said "It's better to be lucky than smart". Jobs was not lucky in that he did not grasp the importance of energy efficiency for networks an devices that depend on Apple products. Using 1990 engineering rationale for 2010 design is short sighted and unlucky.

[FatsoBastarde]

Apple fan boys buy overpriced underpowered (for the price) electronics anyway. This doesn't change anything. They'll still drink the cool aid.

[HerbertVII]

Ummm ... that's a fake Steve Jobs quote from a parody video.

Green Peace actually praised Steve Jobs for highlighting environmental issues a few years back.

[HerbertVII]

Here's the parody video:

[WilliamKull]

REALLY its more like the government agencies like EPEAT and the EPA force companies into participating the BS programs or they black ball you in the old days that was known as EXTORTION

[WilliamKull]

REALLY! government agencies like EPEAT and EPA force companies to participate in their programs or be black balled by them and all the green zombies. IN THE OLD DAYS THEY CALLED THAT EXTORTION MR MELLO!!

[SeanMolin]

FatsoBastarde, on 14 July 2012 - 10:46 AM, said:

Apple fan boys buy overpriced underpowered (for the price) electronics anyway. This doesn't change anything. They'll still drink the cool aid.

I used to feel this way, and I think you have a point if you concede it used to be this way... but it's not anymore. They aren't under-powered, and they are priced competitively with similar PCs now.

[dcolley]

I can't blame them for wanting to get out of the green homeowners association (EPEAT). No other PC manufacturer actually makes anything recyclable. They probably just pay off the organization to get the sticker.

[edelbrp]

If you google "greenpeace admits apple" you will find a series of articles quoting Greenpeace admitting that they had made up "facts" about Apple's environmental impact as a publicity stunt to make headlines.

[NickSitterly]

As opposed to the pristine record of all the corporations that have bought PC World off for years. How much do you take in in advertising revenues and from who? Until you can disclose that, you are not believable.

[AlexMiller]

WilliamKull, on 14 July 2012 - 11:03 AM, said:

REALLY! government agencies like EPEAT and EPA force companies to participate in their programs or be black balled by them and all the green zombies. IN THE OLD DAYS THEY CALLED THAT EXTORTION MR MELLO!!

Yeah! AMURICA!

[SmailBuzzby8xza]

Oh, you mean we can't sell to the government or schools unless we pretend to care about the environment?

Alright, we care about the environment, now buy our overpriced, disposable toys please.

[EricWymenga]

SeanMolin, on 14 July 2012 - 11:10 AM, said:

FatsoBastarde, on 14 July 2012 - 10:46 AM, said:

Apple fan boys buy overpriced underpowered (for the price) electronics anyway. This doesn't change anything. They'll still drink the cool aid.

I used to feel this way, and I think you have a point if you concede it used to be this way... but it's not anymore. They aren't under-powered, and they are priced competitively with similar PCs now.

While I will give you the point that they are not under powered, they are still way more expensive than the equal pc hardware counter part.

[BenYokel]

Jobs was smart but he was never a nice guy. His advertising was bald faced lies. He built his company on the backs of slaves and treated his staff the same.

[AaronRamirez]

It doesn't matter if a product has a green sticker on it or not. Companies just buy off the green company to get a sticker and keeps polluting like crazy behind our backs.

[ConservationMatters]

It's ALL about Energy CONSUMPTION. Yet, AMERICA Continues to WASTE over 70% of the Energy it Consumes. Our hedonist energy waste is culturally pervasive, inexcusable, and suicidal.
(1) 100's of millions of lights unnecessarily burn energy every day and night.(2) We over heat, over cool, and over light our municipalities, businesses, offices, homes, churches, SCHOOLS, etc… (3) Over packaging is the norm, and recycling is inadequate. Our landfills are busier than ever. Plastics (all of which are derived from petroleum) are the cause of most cancers.(4) Most Americans do not minimize their driving; road congestion is horrendous.(5) America's incessant obsession with driving and road construction is the ultimate contradiction to sustainable living.
The only way to eliminate waste and over demand for energy is by using the economic impact of taxing energy. Crude oil must be taxed at $160 per barrel(42 gal) and this 'energy consumption tax' be offset by making Federal Income Tax begin at $60k. Only with a substantial and tangible dollar consequence/reward will there be the incentive to conserve energy. Until the price of gas is $6 to $7 per gallon, Americans will not significantly reduce their over consumption and energy waste.
Ford, GM, and Chrysler continue toward bankrupt, yet basically continue to do business as usual. They must transition to the lucrative business of building solar and wind 'energy producers' for the world's 6.7 BILLION people reason$. They already have the needed infrastructure to mass produce, sell, and install these products. Failure to innovate the auto industry away from energy consumption to energy production will cause the ruin our economy and the environment . Energy demand cannot continue to support dwindling fossil fuel 'supply'.
China, India, and other former 'developing countries' have just begun to compete for the world's remaining fossil fuel. Continued global demand for energy can only be satisfied with conservation and renewable sources.Global warming continues to increases with our persistent waste and overuse of fossil fuels.Human extinction will be the reward for our failure to rapidly and broadly implement renewable energy supplies. The incentives necessary to implement sustainable and renewable energy supplies can ONLY occur when we employ the economics of TAXING ENERGY.
Use your influence and resources to promote Energy Conservation. Americans need to be reminded/told(YES 'told') to STOP the/our/your Energy WASTE !
Lowell Michalove Energy Conservation Advocate