[crazytechmom]

http://www.bestbuy.c...04658669&catId=

I a looking to purchase a new system for my teen son for gaming also that I can use for editing video/photos.
You seem to know ur stuff would u be willing to share some advice?
Resurching AMD graphics, processors etc.
value/ performance is important to me.
Narrowing it down but when it comes to pulling it all together I'm having a difficult time.
Example this processor with that graphics etc. speed/performance/

Above is a link to a few I am considering but stuck on what is best combination to look for
Ps I do want something that will not be outdated next year. I tend to upkeep computers to well and they last forever for me
Looking to spend $700 range but will spend more if it is a better value.

Ur the best if u deside to share ur knowledge / experience with me,
Respectfuly, Samantha

[snorg]

Hi Sammy

If you look at my PC specs in my signature, thats a good way to go.
I just ordered a better video card for it.
Mine wont be outdated for a coons age.
Mine is kinda just one step behind the newest and best so its cheaper to build.

If you find a tech that works out of his basement he will charge you about 100 bucks to build it, so you could get something like mine built for about 800 bucks. Not including monitor.

This post has been edited by snorg: 10 November 2012 - 08:32 AM

[crazytechmom]

Thanks Snorg,
I will check it out. U say its out dated for my teen though what would u consider the newest/ greatest out there now?
Any thoughts on best buy choices pre-built? FYI hate to do it but I have a charge with them/ no interest and do not have the cash on hand to build. But do have a brother in law who can add/etc. has updated my old ptc as far as I can take it. That's why we are looking for new.
Any suggestions ? Ur the best

[snorg]

no, i typed wrong.
I sez mine wont be outdated for a coons age.

[snorg]

One like mine will do you real good.
Brother in law could build it.
Latest and greatest, your looking at 1200 bucks or so.
Off the shelf PC is 30 to 50% more than building one so that would be throwing your money away. Best buy is always to build one, not buy one.

This post has been edited by snorg: 10 November 2012 - 08:43 AM

[crazytechmom]

Great stuff.
Haven't looked into the additional components yet so ur stuff helps a lot.
What's ur take on windows 8 ?
Or
Graphics AMD Radeon HD 7770
And the
AMD FX-6100 Processor

[snorg]

My take, win7 POS.
Win8 POS.
XP is the best.

You can go with win7 if you have to.

[crazytechmom]

Ya I have always worked with windows XP
All good.
What about the AMD fx processor ? Too new?
Or AMD graphics ? From what I've seen everyone raves about them?

[snorg]

Ive had trouble with Radeon

Ive always used Nvidia.
Im getting this Nvidia card its a very good medium class card, about 100 bucks.
See it here.
http://www.directcan...anufacture=ASUS

[crazytechmom]

Great I will check it out.

[snorg]

crazytechmom, on 10 November 2012 - 08:56 AM, said:

And the
AMD FX-6100 Processor

Yes, yes
AMD Bulldozer FX-6100 Six Core Processor 3.3GHZ Socket AM3+ 95W Retail Box
see it here
http://www.directcan...manufacture=AMD

Thats not too expensive, you should be able to overclock that to 4.1
Yummy, yum.....

This post has been edited by snorg: 10 November 2012 - 09:37 AM

[LiveBrianD]

Personally, I have to disagree with Windows 7 being crap - I moved to it a few years ago, and don't miss XP one bit.

I think that a machine with an i3 or i5 and maybe a 7750 or 7770 would work well. (Or possibly an AMD Vishera CPU - I don't think an APU is a good choice at that price.)

Also, prebuilts can actually be pretty competitive at lower price ranges. (A gaming prebuilt is just stupid though.) That said, if you build your own, you can get exactly what you want in it. It's not that hard for a newbie to do.

This post has been edited by LiveBrianD: 10 November 2012 - 09:38 AM

[waldojim]

Ok, the machines she posted are all based on the slightly outdated AMD FX 8xxx series. The machines themselves are perfectly fine - clocked in at 3.3Ghz and 3.6Ghz. I don't know which chips exactly, as BestBuy apparently made it a mission not to tell people. Those machines are rocking AMD 7770 video cards, which will tackle every game on the market. These machines are selling between $650 and $750 (depending on the options - like 120GB SSD).

I also recommend the Intel version of these machines found here: http://www.bestbuy.c...=specifications
The Intel i5 @ 3.4Ghz easily has more power than any of the AMD FX based machines.
The Nvidia 650 is also more powerful than the 7770 depending on the game.

All of the machines rock 8GB of ram.

To be honest, the original poster found herself some very nice choices to work from.

[waldojim]

As far as Windows 7 and 8 go... There is some debate between people on which is better. I prefer Windows 8 as Windows is finally back to a light and nimble state. Similar to Windows XP. When playing games, editing videos or doing any demanding work, Windows 8 will allow that work to be done a wee bit faster. In some cases it is noticeably faster, in others, not so much.

[snorg]

Sammy:

That link in you first post didnt come over rite.
Please post the SKU number thats on that page and I can find it that way.

It looks something like this "SKU: 4686573"

[LiveBrianD]

waldojim, on 10 November 2012 - 10:53 AM, said:

As far as Windows 7 and 8 go... There is some debate between people on which is better. I prefer Windows 8 as Windows is finally back to a light and nimble state. Similar to Windows XP. When playing games, editing videos or doing any demanding work, Windows 8 will allow that work to be done a wee bit faster. In some cases it is noticeably faster, in others, not so much.

I think it's best if the OP tries Windows 8 in a store, and decides for themselves. As it is, I find metro screws up what's otherwise a nice OS.


Btw I'm a bit wary of iBuyPower: http://www.mywot.com...nt=popup-donuts

This post has been edited by LiveBrianD: 10 November 2012 - 04:48 PM

[crazytechmom]

snorg, on 10 November 2012 - 11:51 AM, said:

Sammy:

That link in you first post didnt come over rite.
Please post the SKU number thats on that page and I can find it that way.

It looks something like this "SKU: 4686573"

GAMER SUPREME BB641D3 SKU: 6980003

GAMER POWER BB742i SKU: 6979905

GAMER EXTREME BB631D SKU: 6979787

Thoughts?

[snorg]

Hi Sammy
Of the 3 I recommend SKU: 6979787
It will give you all you need.
Its the cheapest and paying more for the others is not worth a small performance gain.

You may not be able to overclock any of the 3 because off the shelf PCs are often made so that they wont let you overclock. Even if you can overclock you have to install a better CPU cooler.

[waldojim]

For what it is worth, she found a much better deal at the best buy site:
IbuyPower Model: GAMER POWER BB742i SKU: 6979905. At $850

And sorry Snorg, but the i5 is well worth every penny over the AMD FX 8xxx series.

The Nvidia 660 makes this other machine a steal though.

This post has been edited by waldojim: 11 November 2012 - 07:11 PM

[crazytechmom]

iBuyPower - Desktop - 8GB Memory - 500GB Hard Drive
Model: LAN WARRIOR BB700i SKU: 6979796
$849.00

Type of Memory (RAM)
DDR3 SDRAM

Hard Drive Type
SATA II (7200 rpm)

Hard Drive Size 500GB

Graphics NVIDIA GTX 660

Video Memory 2GB (dedicated)

System Memory (RAM) 8GB

Cache Memory 6MB on die Level 3

Processor Speed 3.4GHz
(with Turbo Boost up to 3.8GHz)

Processor Intel® 3rd Generation Core™ i5

******* Network Card
Built-in 10/100 Ethernet LAN*****

Here are the specs on this PC
Someone mentioned something about the network card not being good enough ????
Again out of my league of knowledge ?
I have AT&T as my wireless company, I know I upgraded to the best speed they had but can't remember off hand what that is.
Any thoughts. Should we set this PC up to be wired to the cable not wireless or better yet should I put a better network card in it??