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[ariazad]

I was so excited when I saw this post.Can I buy this tablet in Iran?

[ariazad]

I'm a linux man

[Annon]

I wish Linux was better so I could use it full time...

[IndianArt]

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I wish Linux was better so I could use it full time...

Try Ubuntu.

Proof why Ubuntu is priceless:
Hundreds of Features ÷ 0 cost = ∞ Value

[jwojewidka]

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I wish Linux was better so I could use it full time... Try Ubuntu. Proof why Ubuntu is priceless: Hundreds of Features ÷ 0 cost = ∞ Value

It's not Linux - or any of the distribution flavors - it's the applications that keep it from flying. Ubuntu is excellent, as is Mint. Fast, stable, useful, fun. But! They both have to run handicapped versions of MS's Office Suite. For anyone who has serious work to do, they don't cut it.

For the past few years I have *really* tried to make it all work, but I always toss in the towel in the end. When this gets fixed, I'm in.

[bitsynthesis]

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I wish Linux was better so I could use it full time... Try Ubuntu. Proof why Ubuntu is priceless: Hundreds of Features ÷ 0 cost = ∞ Value

A wise man once said: "Linux is only free if your time is worthless."

I love Linux, but I agree with this statement.

[linuxrants7xpg]

bitsynthesis, on 16 November 2012 - 12:39 PM, said:

A wise man once said: "Linux is only free if your time is worthless."

I love Linux, but I agree with this statement.

I agree with that statement as well, but probably for different reasons than you. Linux has saved me so much trial and tribulation over a Windows installation. The time it's saved me can hardly be quantified. To me, this makes Linux more than free. Linux is like someone knocking on my door and handing me a stack of one hundred dollar bills and some really good beer.

[IndianArt]

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I wish Linux was better so I could use it full time... Try Ubuntu. Proof why Ubuntu is priceless: Hundreds of Features ÷ 0 cost = ∞ Value It's not Linux - or any of the distribution flavors - it's the applications that keep it from flying. Ubuntu is excellent, as is Mint. Fast, stable, useful, fun. But! They both have to run handicapped versions of MS's Office Suite. For anyone who has serious work to do, they don't cut it. For the past few years I have really tried to make it all work, but I always toss in the towel in the end. When this gets fixed, I'm in.

The way LibreOffice is developing you won't have to wait long ...that is if you are not presently satisfied with LO.

[waldojim]

IndianArt, on 16 November 2012 - 05:44 AM, said:

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I wish Linux was better so I could use it full time...

Try Ubuntu.

Proof why Ubuntu is priceless:
Hundreds of Features ÷ 0 cost = ∞ Value

Been there. Done that. Moved back to a real OS.

[orionds]

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I wish Linux was better so I could use it full time... Try Ubuntu. Proof why Ubuntu is priceless: Hundreds of Features ÷ 0 cost = ∞ Value It's not Linux - or any of the distribution flavors - it's the applications that keep it from flying. Ubuntu is excellent, as is Mint. Fast, stable, useful, fun. But! They both have to run handicapped versions of MS's Office Suite. For anyone who has serious work to do, they don't cut it. For the past few years I have really tried to make it all work, but I always toss in the towel in the end. When this gets fixed, I'm in.

http://www.datamatio...indows-8-1.html

The above link is an article written by the IT manager in a commercial company.

For myself, I run a small network in a school's library with a connected multifunction copier-printer-scanner. All printing, scanning and editing (text, audio, video) are all handled 100% using Ubuntu (and Lubuntu) installed in a motley group of netbooks, notebooks, PCs and one "crippled" laptop (sans original LCD screen) with zero need of MS Office.

Though low in terms of serious work, for the students their needs are serious when it comes to study, learning and doing their assignments that lead to their future careers. Isn't this how Apple began: in the education field?

I realize that Linux does not fit everyone and eventually it will fit more. In the meantime, commercial enterprises from gaming to hardware manufacturers are one-by-one supporting and bringing Linux into their fold.

The PengPod is just one element in the growing influence and evolution of the Linux OS for the Internet and everyday users.

News articles:

Valve opens Steam for Ubuntu to first wave of beta testers:
http://arstechnica.c...f-beta-testers/

Valve: L4D2 runs 20% faster on Ubuntu than Windows 7:
http://www.techspot....-windows-7.html

[orionds]

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IndianArt said
I wish Linux was better so I could use it full time... Try Ubuntu. Proof why Ubuntu is priceless: Hundreds of Features ÷ 0 cost = ∞ Value Been there. Done that. Moved back to a real OS.

When were you last "there"? One, two, three years ago? My previous post should hold the answer for you, if not right now by your estimation, at least for the future I guess when, perhaps, the "real" OS no longer cuts it.

[DavidDreggorspgdn]

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I wish Linux was better so I could use it full time... Try Ubuntu. Proof why Ubuntu is priceless: Hundreds of Features ÷ 0 cost = ∞ Value A wise man once said: "Linux is only free if your time is worthless." I love Linux, but I agree with this statement.

The same can be said of any OS that you do not know how to use.

I am an administrator with thousands of servers to manage in multiple data centers in and out of the US... time is the MOST valuable to me. That is exactly why I use Linux. I cannot reach all of these servers simultaneously and administer them all as effortlessly without Linux as my OS on my workstations and laptops. Windows and putty are simply poor attempt to achieve what Linux/SSH does right out of the box.

Remote Desktop is even easier and tunneling ports securely is just not done easily in Windows.

Please try not to belittle such a powerful OS that can (and does) far more for time management. You only serve to make yourself look foolish in doing so.

[waldojim]

orionds, on 17 November 2012 - 03:21 AM, said:

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IndianArt said
I wish Linux was better so I could use it full time... Try Ubuntu. Proof why Ubuntu is priceless: Hundreds of Features ÷ 0 cost = ∞ Value Been there. Done that. Moved back to a real OS.

When were you last "there"? One, two, three years ago? My previous post should hold the answer for you, if not right now by your estimation, at least for the future I guess when, perhaps, the "real" OS no longer cuts it.

I think you may have me confused with the trolls that never try an OS before making comments. I have run every release of Ubuntu since version 5. Back when it was clean, it was worth something. These days, it is a bloated mess, still has limited Windows application support (necessary), and a fubar desktop.

For what very little it is worth, I use Linux Mint for recording audio and video on an old AMD Ahtlon 64. It is not that I won't use Linux, but you people need to understand that when people need to do real work - Ubuntu is rarely the answer.

[LiveBrianD]

IndianArt, on 16 November 2012 - 08:17 PM, said:

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I wish Linux was better so I could use it full time... Try Ubuntu. Proof why Ubuntu is priceless: Hundreds of Features ÷ 0 cost = ∞ Value It's not Linux - or any of the distribution flavors - it's the applications that keep it from flying. Ubuntu is excellent, as is Mint. Fast, stable, useful, fun. But! They both have to run handicapped versions of MS's Office Suite. For anyone who has serious work to do, they don't cut it. For the past few years I have really tried to make it all work, but I always toss in the towel in the end. When this gets fixed, I'm in.

The way LibreOffice is developing you won't have to wait long ...that is if you are not presently satisfied with LO.

To be honest, the main reasons I refuse to move to LibreOffice for now are that I hate the Office 2003-esque UI (this is a major one - I moved to 2007, and then 2010 years ago, and now 2003 confuses me), compatibility with Microsoft Office often isn't great on slightly more complex word documents (although ironically, a powerpoint presentation I created in the new web apps gave an error in Powerpoint 2010, but opened fine in libre... wtf?), and it's slower.

[LiveBrianD]

waldojim, on 17 November 2012 - 09:18 PM, said:

orionds, on 17 November 2012 - 03:21 AM, said:

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IndianArt said
I wish Linux was better so I could use it full time... Try Ubuntu. Proof why Ubuntu is priceless: Hundreds of Features ÷ 0 cost = ∞ Value Been there. Done that. Moved back to a real OS.

When were you last "there"? One, two, three years ago? My previous post should hold the answer for you, if not right now by your estimation, at least for the future I guess when, perhaps, the "real" OS no longer cuts it.

I think you may have me confused with the trolls that never try an OS before making comments. I have run every release of Ubuntu since version 5. Back when it was clean, it was worth something. These days, it is a bloated mess, still has limited Windows application support (necessary), and a fubar desktop.

For what very little it is worth, I use Linux Mint for recording audio and video on an old AMD Ahtlon 64. It is not that I won't use Linux, but you people need to understand that when people need to do real work - Ubuntu is rarely the answer.

I wouldn't call it bloated - it runs well enough, and I actually like Unity (far better than the bipolar mess in Windows 8 - that is what's fubar'd, if anything).

As for real work, what is your definition of "work"? In my case, I think most of what I do would work fine there - Chrome, Libreoffice, Eclipse, Pinta, etc all work there natively, and Picasa works nicely under WINE. I just find it doesn't work as well as Windows 7 in general, so I see no reason to switch.

[linuxrants7xpg]

waldojim, on 17 November 2012 - 09:18 PM, said:

These days, it is a bloated mess, still has limited Windows application support (necessary), and a fubar desktop.

Ubuntu is not a bloated mess, it's desktop is actually quite usable, and Windows application support is far from "necessary".

waldojim, on 17 November 2012 - 09:18 PM, said:

It is not that I won't use Linux, but you people need to understand that when people need to do real work - Ubuntu is rarely the answer.

No Jim, when you need to do "real" work, Ubuntu is rarely the answer. When I need to do "real" work, Ubuntu is always the answer. Don't pretend to speak for "people" when you're really speaking only for yourself.

[waldojim]

linuxrants7xpg, on 17 November 2012 - 09:35 PM, said:

Ubuntu is not a bloated mess, it's desktop is actually quite usable, and Windows application support is far from "necessary".

To be blunt, Windows Vista runs better on my hardware than Ubuntu. You may not want to call it a bloated mess, but it is. Linux developers stopped caring about OS bloat around the time that Gnome 2 was released. Gnome 1 was a wonderful, light environment that sat over-top of even lighter window managers. It resulted in a desktop that ran well on darned near anything. These days, that isn't the case.

And sorry, but that half-assed, wanna-be touch friendly start menu did one thing for the community. It gave Microsoft a good idea of what NOT to do.
For people in a work environment, yes WINDOWS application support is a must. For people like me, in mixed environments, I flat require it.

There is a reason I all but stopped using Linux at all. Because it is too much hassle trying to get anything done.

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No Jim, when you need to do "real" work, Ubuntu is rarely the answer. When I need to do "real" work, Ubuntu is always the answer. Don't pretend to speak for "people" when you're really speaking only for yourself.

Funny, you do just the same. Yet, working in corporate environments, do you know how often I see Ubuntu as a possibility? NEVER.

On the enterprise level, they use a boatload of MS-ONLY software.

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waldojim, on 18 November 2012 - 10:50 AM, said:

To be blunt, Windows Vista runs better on my hardware than Ubuntu.

Bummer for you then, but Ubuntu kicks Windows's hindquarters around the block on my hardware.

waldojim, on 18 November 2012 - 10:50 AM, said:

And sorry, but that half-assed, wanna-be touch friendly start menu did one thing for the community. It gave Microsoft a good idea of what NOT to do.

Right, and then they came out with Windows 8. A half-assed wanna-be touch friendly interface that wishes it could be as good as Unity as a touch interface or with a mouse. Sorry, if you call that good your opinion on Ubuntu and Unity is worth less than the 1s and 0s you used up writing it.

waldojim, on 18 November 2012 - 10:50 AM, said:

Funny, you do just the same.

Do I?

waldojim, on 18 November 2012 - 10:50 AM, said:

Yet, working in corporate environments, do you know how often I see Ubuntu as a possibility? NEVER.

I work in a corporate environment too Jim, or did you forget? Do you know how often I see Ubuntu as a possibility? Every single day.

[LiveBrianD]

@waldojim OK, why is it that for me, Vista is slow, XP and 7 are moderately fast, while Ubuntu and Windows 8 are really fast? (all on slow hardware, that is)

If anything, Microsoft is teaching people what to do... if you want to go out of business, that is. Really - try Unity for a little while, and you'll find that it really isn't that bad.