[tfosorcim]

It's taken the Gnome intelligentia far too long to admit their mistakes, and to try to START rectifying the situation.

Let's all make a leap, here, using some logic:
1.The last distro of any mass whatsoever to use the new Gnome is (probably 'was') Red Hat.
2. Threats work wonders.
3. Red Hat finally got fed up with Gnome's intransigence, and its (Red Hat's) customers' complaints.
4. Gnome was told to fix its problems, or RH was going to take a hike, just as everyone else has done.

Don't think this scenario is plausible? Think again.

It's too late for Gnome. They've given others the opportunity to fill the void they created, and with some very good offerings.
Gnome is getting everything it has worked for, and deserves.

Quit pining for the 'good ol' days'. The new day of Mate, Cinnamon, and KDE is much better.

Gnome is dead. Linus Torvalds was right.

[linuxrants7xpg]

brainout, on 25 November 2012 - 01:26 AM, said:

Thank you. Couldn't I just uninstall the duplicate if I didn't want them?

Well, they're not really duplicate applications, there's just duplicate entries for the applications. Basically what happens is Gnome has an entry for an app, say Firefox, and then KDE will also add a menu entry for Firefox. End result is you get two Firefoxes. They point to the same app. All told, it's just kind of annoying.

[madhank65]

Just check out the mentioned SolusOS. Problem solved. Smooth version of Debian/Gnome goodness.

[GonzaloVC]

Listen to the old users? "YES YOU CAN!", Gnome guys ;-)

[ChrisWortman]

All Gnome 3 shell really needs is to be gone with global menu, add an application bar at the bottom, and add minimize. At the top add the same Gnome 2 bar way of launching applications. I don't hate Gnome shell, and you could move Activities to a new area on the screen such as the bottom right corner, or hell do it as hot corners and allow the user to choose which hot corner to use for it. Don't completely kill Gnome shell, or the way it handles multiple desktops, that part is perfect. It is also nice to note that this UI actually works rather well with touch screens, so hot corners would be awesome. Best of both worlds!

[MichaelWillenburg]

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All Gnome 3 shell really needs is to be gone with global menu, add an application bar at the bottom, and add minimize. At the top add the same Gnome 2 bar way of launching applications. I don't hate Gnome shell, and you could move Activities to a new area on the screen such as the bottom right corner, or hell do it as hot corners and allow the user to choose which hot corner to use for it. Don't completely kill Gnome shell, or the way it handles multiple desktops, that part is perfect. It is also nice to note that this UI actually works rather well with touch screens, so hot corners would be awesome. Best of both worlds!

No no. You could have made that a lot shorter.

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All Gnome 3 shell really needs is to be gone.

All fixed! :-D

[Ninja250]

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I don't see the point of discussing which one is better UI. I started on Ubuntu 8.04LTS with the classic GNOME, was great. Mooved to UNITY on 12.04LTS, took a little to get used to it, about a week or two, very easy to learn, use UNITY now, love it, very similar to Mac OSX. If you have an old PC, netbook, or something low on resources, then go with one of the light UIs. Something more powerfull then go with UNITY 2D or GNOME 2D. Have a good graphic chip, go with the full UNITY or GNOME3, KDE if you prefer. But if UNITY, or GNOME3, are not flexible enough to you, just add the Cairo Dock, or similar. The beauty of LINUX is just that, pick any GUI you like and fits your hardware. Remeber you can install, from software center in UBUNTU, ALL the GUIs discussed abobe, and choose at any moment during login the one you want. Don't really get what's the point in discussing which one is better. They all are, just depends on your taste. Cheers. LINUX rocks :-)

[Ninja250]

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I don't see the point of discussing which one is better UI. I started on Ubuntu 8.04LTS with the classic GNOME, was great. Mooved to UNITY on 12.04LTS, took a little to get used to it, about a week or two, very easy to learn, use UNITY now, love it, very similar to Mac OSX. If you have an old PC, netbook, or something low on resources, then go with one of the light UIs. Something more powerfull then go with UNITY 2D or GNOME 2D. Have a good graphic chip, go with the full UNITY or GNOME3, KDE if you prefer. But if UNITY, or GNOME3, are not flexible enough to you, just add the Cairo Dock, or similar. The beauty of LINUX is just that, pick any GUI you like and fits your hardware. Remeber you can install, from software center in UBUNTU, ALL the GUIs discussed abobe, and choose at any moment during login the one you want. Don't really get what's the point in discussing which one is better. They all are, just depends on your taste. Cheers. LINUX rocks :-)

[Ninja250]

I Agree! I've been using Ubuntu 11.04 for all my daily tasks. Tried the "Unity" interface when it came out - hated it - stayed on 11.04. Decided to try 12.10 on a external drive - still hated it. Installed Cairo Dock - Hey! - this is pretty great!

I still like the simplicity of Gnome 2, so I'll probably make the transition to 12.10 + Gnome 2 as soon as I have the time to set up a partition and test it, but this is the beauty of Linux - you can make it your own.

Plus, there is the great community. Couldn't get my Atheros 8161 network card to recognize my wired network. Poked around all the community posts and had a solution in about 5 minutes - just try that with M$ Windows.

After years of using M$ trash I found Linux and I now recommend it to anyone who asks. It is no more difficult to install than Windows and applications like Gimp, Brasero, and Libre Office are great (DON'T get me started on M$ Office "ribbons" - I'm forced to use that abortion at work).

[JoelBeisiegelgggk]

Well it's not exactly Gnome 2, but it's better than nothing. Maybe now Cannonical can purge Unity from it's project, and just give us a GOOD UI.

[mikefrett]

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I Agree! I've been using Ubuntu 11.04 for all my daily tasks. Tried the "Unity" interface when it came out - hated it - stayed on 11.04....

Ubuntu has done a great job of 'hiding' there other distros apparently, so let me inform all of you. You can have the SAME Ubuntu, with a different GUI by trying other OFFICIAL versions, like, Xubuntu, Kubuntu and Lubuntu. You don't have to use Unity.

[simon12345]

I had to use gnome 2 (ubuntu 10 or something) on a certain computer at home recently. Had not booted into it for ages. I have to say, seeing the classic gnome 2 again was refreshing. Tweaked it a bit and... found myself enjoying it more than gnome 3, Mate, LXDE, Cinamon, etc. Looked good and worked fine.