[WP7Mango]

I think the analyst Michael Cherry is spot on - everyone is way too obsessed with instant analysis. These analysts are trying to put Microsoft into the same box as Apple, but the two businesses are completely different. The only thing you can directly compare with Apple are Microsoft's xBox sales, because that is the same vertical consumer market as Apple's.

Sit back and relax - wait and see what happens. Sometimes I get the impression that many people are disappointed that Windows 8 hasn't failed immediately. They were expecting it to fail because they were basing their sentiment on what they have read about Windows 8 in the press, or because they personally don't like it. The people expressing this negative sentiment are probably assuming that they represent the majority, whereas it's more likely that they actually represent the minority.

Let's think about it realistically - with the existing Windows XP and Windows 7 marketshare, Windows 8 is virtually too big to fail just by sheer volume alone. Even if only 50% of users like it - that's still a HUGE number of sales!

And history teaches us a valuable lesson about Microsoft - Windows 8 WILL improve, whether you like it or not. It might take one or two more iterations, but it will happen. Meanwhile, Windows 8 will be blazing a trail running on new touch-screen hardware, possibly even with new form factors that we haven't seen yet.

[Xach]

I also agree windows 8 does rock. Its good to see Microsoft moving forward. I am a keyboard and mouse user and have no trouble identifying the corner of my computer screen.

Windows 8 will fail, however, after apple develops new circular screen technology.

[WP7Mango]

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I had to go back to win 7 for my Samsung pc slate that I had purcased in June as one of the firsts Windows tablets. It ran beautifully on win 7, after installing win 8 noticed that processor was running often at 100% and kept getting very annoying messages that I was running out of memory. I tried to uninstall all the built in apps, not better, now it works very fine on win 7 and will stay this way. I also instaled win 8 on 2 other pc's that had never crashed before, keeping an eye on them, they both have crashed more then once since win 8. Disappointing

I find that very hard to believe. I have a Samung 700T slate running Windows 8 and it's been flawless. It was also initially supplied with Windows 7 (fresh install), and I upgraded it to Windows 8 Pro.

Either you have faulty hardware or you have some kind of corrupt software.

[Iceman7]

I would like to purchase a new PC, but certainly not with 8...lol, I'll pass...I believe it'll flop overall... don't forget about consumers who prefer a keyboard and mouse Microsoft

[Xach]

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I would like to purchase a new PC, but certainly not with 8...lol, I'll pass...I believe it'll flop overall... don't forget about consumers who prefer a keyboard and mouse Microsoft

Microsoft points to corner of screen shrugs shoulders.....

It would be different if I really thought this operating system hindered me in any way. Even with keyboard and mouse it works fine.

[adholt]

Ummm who writes these articles? Why does it seem this ragazine is rooting against any company that is not Apple? If Microsoft says it sold 40 million licenses then it should be allowed to prove that. It is unlawful for a publicly traded company to lie about prospective sales because that could influence its stock prices. As a user I really like Windows 8 and my customers all seem to like it as well. I get a lot of requests for the upgrade and that was something I never saw in Windows 7 so I would say its going well. These cheesy articles that are written based on conjecture belong in a blog not as news items. As a matter of fact most all of the content on this site seems to mirror articles I read on ZDnet and other poorly written tech sites. I would give anything to find a tech site that reviews and comments instead of advocating and seeking to distort. Also who cares what the 2 analysts you selected think if they are concerned with what Microsoft is saying about its sales figures then they should be willing to prove the figures are wrong or shut up. One more note why is there an article on Windows 8 report card for one month? And in the article why is Sinofsky referred to as a gorilla?

[toothie007]

I am still waiting for PCWorld to show us an article in which any of their writers questioned a sales number offered up by Apple for example. I am willing to bet that Apple reports all the iMacs, MBPs, Ipads, iPhones sitting in Best Buy and elsewhere as sales. Why? Because, they are required to, and those are purchased by those distributors and then sold to the public.

[Curmet]

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Ummm who writes these articles? Why does it seem this ragazine is rooting against any company that is not Apple? If Microsoft says it sold 40 million licenses then it should be allowed to prove that. It is unlawful for a publicly traded company to lie about prospective sales because that could influence its stock prices. As a user I really like Windows 8 and my customers all seem to like it as well. I get a lot of requests for the upgrade and that was something I never saw in Windows 7 so I would say its going well. These cheesy articles that are written based on conjecture belong in a blog not as news items. As a matter of fact most all of the content on this site seems to mirror articles I read on ZDnet and other poorly written tech sites. I would give anything to find a tech site that reviews and comments instead of advocating and seeking to distort. Also who cares what the 2 analysts you selected think if they are concerned with what Microsoft is saying about its sales figures then they should be willing to prove the figures are wrong or shut up. One more note why is there an article on Windows 8 report card for one month? And in the article why is Sinofsky referred to as a gorilla?

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Absolutely agree with you. I find no problem using win8 and have been using it since Feb. All those that complain and say "oh it hinders my work" or "it's a complete flop" is full of ***** to say the least. It's just one of those "Oh Only Apple can make something new without the whole world shting on it lawn for it." Well, it's true what they say, those that complain always barks the loudest, while those with actual knowledge and clear perspective who don't make up BS excuses as to why they don't like anything that isn't APPLE, don't say much.

I love win8 and i'll call anyone who says it's a failure "a ***ing liar"

[Accountash]

Personally, I do not believe that all rumors around Windows 8 are negative.
I always trust Microsoft (as I do not like Apple) and for such a big company sell around 3.5 dozens mil copies is ok.

I guess they even sell more.
They work hard and get a good result

[toothie007]

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Windows 8 is a huge failure, just read this factual story and not the phony Microsoft hype: http://www.tomsguide...news-16360.html

I am happy to know that you have the ability to declare it a failure. It may turn out to be, but I doubt that will depend on you. I know my individual purchase or lack there of will not matter in the end. And I am certain that you declaring it to be a failure doesn't matter either. However, if that makes you feel important go ahead and shout out. In fact, make it the goal of your life.

[SElope]

The success or failure of Win8 will be judged by two factores:
a) The capacity to invert the decline in PC sales
The capacity to captivate satisfied useres to buy RT tablets and Win8 Phones.

Unfortunately both have been decided without Win8. As far as PC sales are concerned, Microsoft and Intel are pushing PC prices up (with mobile processors, touchscreen, light devices, SSD hard discs), while people have now the choice to buy cheap chromebooks at a fraction of the price. Additionally neighter Microsoft or Intel are willing to change their margins to attract customers or sustain sales.
As for the success of Win8 helping the sales of Microsft Phones and tablets, that too has already been decides long ago: The Wintel sales are based on frustration: I will explain: I buy a new PC because my old one is slow. Then I get crapware, antivirus, MS office and the service packs that quickly slow the new machine. I am frsutrated and will soon be buying a new machine hoping for some speed. Unde this frustration cycle, there is very little goodwill left to help the sales of Microsoft tablets and phones.

It is incredible how these large companies cannot adopt to the new paradigm of open source: Microsoft and Intel want to make a few hundred dollars from each new PC, while ARM gets a few cents from each processor and Google does not directly charge a cent for the OS. How can these two paradigms ever compete?

[jazzy007]

John, you are correct in saying it may just be too early to tell. All the sales figures are from October 26 until November 17. That's 23 days of sales. Worst, it does not include Black Friday, when the Christmas shopping season kick off.

[nijaboy2]

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I had to go back to win 7 for my Samsung pc slate that I had purcased in June as one of the firsts Windows tablets. It ran beautifully on win 7, after installing win 8 noticed that processor was running often at 100% and kept getting very annoying messages that I was running out of memory. I tried to uninstall all the built in apps, not better, now it works very fine on win 7 and will stay this way. I also instaled win 8 on 2 other pc's that had never crashed before, keeping an eye on them, they both have crashed more then once since win 8. Disappointing

THIS IS NOT TRUE!

[RoleGuy]

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Ummm who writes these articles? Why does it seem this ragazine is rooting against any company that is not Apple? If Microsoft says it sold 40 million licenses then it should be allowed to prove that. It is unlawful for a publicly traded company to lie about prospective sales because that could influence its stock prices. As a user I really like Windows 8 and my customers all seem to like it as well. I get a lot of requests for the upgrade and that was something I never saw in Windows 7 so I would say its going well. These cheesy articles that are written based on conjecture belong in a blog not as news items. As a matter of fact most all of the content on this site seems to mirror articles I read on ZDnet and other poorly written tech sites. I would give anything to find a tech site that reviews and comments instead of advocating and seeking to distort. Also who cares what the 2 analysts you selected think if they are concerned with what Microsoft is saying about its sales figures then they should be willing to prove the figures are wrong or shut up. One more note why is there an article on Windows 8 report card for one month? And in the article why is Sinofsky referred to as a gorilla?

I agree. The articles the past few weeks from Information Week, ZDNet, and now PC World all seem to be negative towards Windows 8 and often Windows Phone. We are using both Win 7 phone and Win 8 on IT staff laptops and desktops as a trial before rolling out to users some time in the future. We are very pleased with the results, including older PC's we have upgraded. No performance issues at all, nothing runs slower. Either these articles are written by incompetent tech reporters or they have an agenda, not necessarily tied to Apple alone. I agree most articles read like a blog, not professional journalism. It's difficult to find an unbiased article about Microsoft or Windows 8. However, a recent exception is an article by Christina Warren from Mashable. She did a very fair review of the Lumia 920 vs iPhone5, especially for an Apple devotee.

[CORVETTEZR90]

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I had to go back to win 7 for my Samsung pc slate that I had purcased in June as one of the firsts Windows tablets. It ran beautifully on win 7, after installing win 8 noticed that processor was running often at 100% and kept getting very annoying messages that I was running out of memory. I tried to uninstall all the built in apps, not better, now it works very fine on win 7 and will stay this way. I also instaled win 8 on 2 other pc's that had never crashed before, keeping an eye on them, they both have crashed more then once since win 8. Disappointing THIS IS NOT TRUE!

[CORVETTEZR90]

I PURCHASED THE pro version for an older laptop....gateway at least 4 years old or older with windows xp......it was a perfect install with minor problems....in fact my wireless connection seems to be better then ever.....i am enjoying the interface....in fact i liked it so much i bought a nokia 822 enjoying that also

[SeanTaylor]

It's a great OS, an improvement over Windows 7. Microsoft has just done a horrible job at marketing it. The majority of detractors haven't even used it, so their opinion isn't even relevant.

[ronin7752]

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It's a great OS, an improvement over Windows 7. Microsoft has just done a horrible job at marketing it. The majority of detractors haven't even used it, so their opinion isn't even relevant.

The majority of users who *like* it are the 1% of "narcissigeeks" who love M$ so much that they will go to the trouble of downloading and trying Win 8. Which is *unlike* the 99% of end users who would not even know how... Those are the one that count, and the "votes" that are coming in from them are *not good*.

[waldojim]

ronin7752, on 01 December 2012 - 05:14 PM, said:

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It's a great OS, an improvement over Windows 7. Microsoft has just done a horrible job at marketing it. The majority of detractors haven't even used it, so their opinion isn't even relevant.

The majority of users who *like* it are the 1% of "narcissigeeks" who love M$ so much that they will go to the trouble of downloading and trying Win 8. Which is *unlike* the 99% of end users who would not even know how... Those are the one that count, and the "votes" that are coming in from them are *not good*.

Interestingly, I have found more NON-GEEKS that tried it on someone else's PC.

You really should quit speaking for everyone.