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Review: Take Command 14 Command Line Utility Is Easier To Use Than Powershell
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JeffHicks 
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 11:03 AM
What does a screen shot of the VBA editor have to do with this product?
If you are still managing via batch files you are working much too hard. If you have to "grow into" a language, then it at least should be one that is valuable like PowerShell. If the PowerShell console puts you off then try something like PowerShell Plus from Idera (which is free). Or PowerGUI (also free).
If you are still managing via batch files you are working much too hard. If you have to "grow into" a language, then it at least should be one that is valuable like PowerShell. If the PowerShell console puts you off then try something like PowerShell Plus from Idera (which is free). Or PowerGUI (also free).
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Posted 02 December 2012 - 03:07 AM
The author of this article needs to do a bit more research. First, the ISE editor does indeed have the ability to resize fonts by a simple slider bar. And the console makes it easy to cut/past text: set quick edit on, then simply hightlight the text you want and hit return. TO paste, by using the right mouse button (PowerShell and cmd.exe has done this for over a decade).
And with the ISE, you can have the tabbed windows. You can have multiple powershell runspaces open (each in effect a separate invocation of PowerShell), and can edit multiple files within each runspace.
Secondly, the author needs to understand the strategic role PowerSHell is playing within Microsoft. While the cmd scripting applications (used by CMD), VBScript and TCC may be useful, they are certainly not strategic as far as MS is concerned. The OS (every SKU) and every application going forward has PowerShell added in. Try adding a mailbox or enabling a user for Lync with VBScript.
While I'd argue a bit that there is room for better IDEs for PowerShell, the only language to learn today is PowerShell. Tools like this, which do have attractions, diverts attention for the mail event.
And with the ISE, you can have the tabbed windows. You can have multiple powershell runspaces open (each in effect a separate invocation of PowerShell), and can edit multiple files within each runspace.
Secondly, the author needs to understand the strategic role PowerSHell is playing within Microsoft. While the cmd scripting applications (used by CMD), VBScript and TCC may be useful, they are certainly not strategic as far as MS is concerned. The OS (every SKU) and every application going forward has PowerShell added in. Try adding a mailbox or enabling a user for Lync with VBScript.
While I'd argue a bit that there is room for better IDEs for PowerShell, the only language to learn today is PowerShell. Tools like this, which do have attractions, diverts attention for the mail event.
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Posted 03 December 2012 - 04:14 PM
Since when can you resize a PowerShell window? I just tried it; it maxes out to only half of a 1920x1080 monitor.
Anyway, interesting that there are some alternatives out there; I forced myself to learn PowerShell only because it's the closest there is to an actually-useful command-line interface in Windows.
Anyway, interesting that there are some alternatives out there; I forced myself to learn PowerShell only because it's the closest there is to an actually-useful command-line interface in Windows.
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Posted 03 December 2012 - 05:02 PM
One the one hand, it would have been nice to have used the TCC window rather than the MS IDE window...
That said, I've been using TCC since the late 80's when it was 4DOS. In my opinion it's the most powerful scripting/batch language outside of writing *ix shell scripts. I've used it recently scripting some fairly sophisticated data analysis simply because it was easier/faster to do it there than in VB.
Remember that this isn't just a shell, it is a whole development environment.
What Erez didn't include in his review is that there is a free version TCC/LE that provides just the command shell without all the bells and whistles. And perhaps a bit less power. That said, it would likely satisfy many users' needs and it still totally blows away CMD or PowerShell.
That said, I've been using TCC since the late 80's when it was 4DOS. In my opinion it's the most powerful scripting/batch language outside of writing *ix shell scripts. I've used it recently scripting some fairly sophisticated data analysis simply because it was easier/faster to do it there than in VB.
Remember that this isn't just a shell, it is a whole development environment.
What Erez didn't include in his review is that there is a free version TCC/LE that provides just the command shell without all the bells and whistles. And perhaps a bit less power. That said, it would likely satisfy many users' needs and it still totally blows away CMD or PowerShell.
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