[bobc4012]

All this stuff is in Windows 7 and has been written about.

[jazzy007]

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not sure if the so called "awesome" utilities in win8 are anything to jump up and down on the couch for. personally, i'm tired of "windows" per se and its time that microsoft re-thinks what an operating system should be, instead of just fancy-ing up an old standard.

If you are tired of Windows, why you reading this article about Windows? Why even comment? Tired of Windows? Buy a Mac, or build your own computer with Linux, any of the many version or get a Chrome laptop, this way you do not have to deal with Windows.

The same for all the people that do not like Windows. Why are you reading an article about Windoes if you hate it so much? There is a Mac World web site and magazine and a Linux web site. Nobody is holding you.

[jazzy007]

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I got Windows 8 as a free upgrade. I'm shocked!!!!!!!!111 it's horrific... and it has soooooooo many fans getting defensive over it... Windows 8 is a MESS! and now I have to loose all my stuff to try get Windows 7

So you got a Windows 8 for free and you found it so terrible. Then why did you installed it? By now you should have seen how Windows 8 looks like, read all the article about it and should have know everything about Windows 8. Mostly all tech writers are writing negative comments about it. That will have gave you a clue. Unless, you are a lying troll or a moron. Which are you?

[jazzy007]

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People don't know about these, and other things, in Windows 8 because Microsoft has hid everything. If you had a functioning Start Menu on the Desktop Interface, they could have placed these items under the Accessories menu, etc. and they'd be easy to see and use. But with the disfunctional Start Screen of Windows 8, now you have to 'search' for everything by typing in a term on your keyboard, but the only problem is nobody knows what all exists in Windows 8 to have any clue what to even search on in the first place since it's all hidden!

People don't know about these things because they do not care. Only geek, tech people will care for this and would have found this information on their own, or read an article like this.

People like you keep missing the point. They cannot see the big picture because they keep looking at one small point in the picture. They miss the forest by just looking at one tree. So let me explain it slowly to you, so you can see and understand. The image that comes when you start your computer and sign in "is the Start screen" All those tiles are the apps, program that you always look for in that little round Windows logo. In Windows 7, it does not say Start, it's just a logo. You click on it and a menu pops out with some of your programs. You have to click on All Programs and go down the list. While we Windows 8 is just right there in front of you. You can setup the most use program front and center and the least use to the right of the screen.

[wlennon]

quote] Awesome? Dysfunctional, however you spell it, is slang, anyway, and has only recently become part of the vernacular (to describe most if not all families, so it's redundant, at best). And...does the God mode actually work? Because that would be... AWESOME! [/quote]

"Dysfunction or dysfunctional" has been part of our popular vernacular since 1915-1916, prior to that it was used in Medical (primarily in psychology) and Social Sciences. Unlike Liberals and the Liberal Media's use of new words such as "misinformation" whereas "disinformation is actually a word. Other wrongly used words would be "Homicide Bombers" as opposed to Suicide Bombers. Today, instead of saying "Terrorist" (done by Muslims) the preferred name is now "Muslim Extremist(s)". Although if a mass murder is perpetrated here in the U.S. by white people, they are known as "Domestic Terrorists".

As for the Windows 8 platform, I like it and am pleased with the make-over also using a Dell HD/HDMI Multi-touch monitor. I have also pre-ordered the Surface Tablet, just as trading my iPhone 4S in for the new Galaxy S III Windows Smartphone (much improved coverage area).

[dragon69]

TonyRony, on 08 December 2012 - 07:10 AM, said:

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It doesn't matter what I can and cannot name for you, what does matter, is that such things exist, and targeting the boot loader makes more sense than you realize.

Indeed, Jim! I don't pretend to be a computer security expert, but I've read enough articles on rootkits/bootkits to realize they can be especially troublesome. Some are hard to detect, and a challenge to remove, too.

This Kapersky article (http://support.kaspe...s?qid=208280748) is very informative and reveals there are SCORES of such bootloader-type vulnerabilities.

in the article you linked too it states this " It detects the following known bootkits:

TDSS TDL4;
Sinowal (Mebroot, MaosBoot);
Phanta (Phantom, Mebratix);
Trup (Alipop);
Whistler;
Stoned, " that is not that many ... only 6 with a couple that have two variations of it ! my point exactly! but they forgot to add in sony's rootkit which came on some sony music cds a while back !

[waldojim]

dragon69, on 30 December 2012 - 07:12 AM, said:

in the article you linked too it states this " It detects the following known bootkits:

TDSS TDL4;
Sinowal (Mebroot, MaosBoot);
Phanta (Phantom, Mebratix);
Trup (Alipop);
Whistler;
Stoned, " that is not that many ... only 6 with a couple that have two variations of it ! my point exactly! but they forgot to add in sony's rootkit which came on some sony music cds a while back !

Did that article mention how many it would REMOVE? For that matter, did it mention how many it DID NOT detect?

EDIT: BTW - if that Stoned bootkit is the same one I am familiar with, it has been around for a very, very long time. It is also very hard to remove... permanently.

This post has been edited by waldojim: 30 December 2012 - 01:40 PM

[dragon69]

waldojim, on 30 December 2012 - 01:38 PM, said:

dragon69, on 30 December 2012 - 07:12 AM, said:

in the article you linked too it states this " It detects the following known bootkits:

TDSS TDL4;
Sinowal (Mebroot, MaosBoot);
Phanta (Phantom, Mebratix);
Trup (Alipop);
Whistler;
Stoned, " that is not that many ... only 6 with a couple that have two variations of it ! my point exactly! but they forgot to add in sony's rootkit which came on some sony music cds a while back !

Did that article mention how many it would REMOVE? For that matter, did it mention how many it DID NOT detect?

EDIT: BTW - if that Stoned bootkit is the same one I am familiar with, it has been around for a very, very long time. It is also very hard to remove... permanently.

it just states " It detects the following known bootkits "

Happy Holidays everyone !

This post has been edited by dragon69: 30 December 2012 - 03:13 PM

[Loweg]

I like the Hyper-V utility. Some of my customers have old hardware products that we manufactured and refuse to upgrade to newer products. The older products require older software to run them. Some of the older software doesn't usually play well with newer OS. Having Windows 8 Pro with Hyper-V will be the answer to being compatible with all of our hardware for our technicians and for old customers investing in a new PC with windows 8 to run there old equipment.

My only thought is unlike Windows 7 virtual PC that came with Windows XP, now you have to have a licensed copy of an older OS. Good thing I don't throw away old OS disk and there license key.

[DL139]

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I got Windows 8 as a free upgrade. I'm shocked!!!!!!!!111 it's horrific... and it has soooooooo many fans getting defensive over it... Windows 8 is a MESS! and now I have to loose all my stuff to try get Windows 7

really why?
I purchased windows 8 at first and I HATED it, my biggest issues were that It was missing the start menu in the task bar, and a some programs weren't compatible with it at the time. Now that its been out more programs are compatible, and I downloaded a program that creates a Start menu called Vistart. It functions pretty well.

There are also other features that I love that making tasks fast and easy. For example, if you want to browse a complete list of all your apps quickly, Hit windows button plus W, and you can search a complete list of apps, by keywords included in the file (not jut by title), file type/extensions, etc in a matter of seconds. You can do the same for any file, or system setting. It makes searching fast and convenient. These things make it more worth while.

[DL139]

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I got Windows 8 as a free upgrade. I'm shocked!!!!!!!!111 it's horrific... and it has soooooooo many fans getting defensive over it... Windows 8 is a MESS! and now I have to loose all my stuff to try get Windows

please excuse my typos and grammatical errors, I am very sleepy writing this. I just don't want to see you lose all of your info if you don't have to, (that is if you didn't already). I would recommend At least backing up all of your important files to an external hard drive, or storing them in a cloud, or another means of online storage, If you're comfortable with that....

[ibenzawla]

I had both Windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.10 running on my laptop. I recently ugraded the Win 7 to Win 8 and I must say that I am finding it hard to get used to it. I probably will in the future but for now I am mainly using the Ubuntu.

[RobinHaynes]

All these features except the Hyper-V exist in versions of Win 7 as well.
DxDiag was included starting with Windows98. Starting with XP Pro it shipped as 32 and 64 bit versions.
Task Scheduler was also available beginning with Windows98.

[dragon69]

RobinHaynes, on 29 January 2013 - 05:22 AM, said:

All these features except the Hyper-V exist in versions of Win 7 as well.
DxDiag was included starting with Windows98. Starting with XP Pro it shipped as 32 and 64 bit versions.
Task Scheduler was also available beginning with Windows98.

I think this was already posted earlier in the comments !

[aztec506]

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I got Windows 8 as a free upgrade. I'm shocked!!!!!!!!111 it's horrific... and it has soooooooo many fans getting defensive over it... Windows 8 is a MESS! and now I have to loose all my stuff to try get Windows 7 So you got a Windows 8 for free and you found it so terrible. Then why did you installed it? By now you should have seen how Windows 8 looks like, read all the article about it and should have know everything about Windows 8. Mostly all tech writers are writing negative comments about it. That will have gave you a clue. Unless, you are a lying troll or a moron. Which are you?

Perhaps he wanted to try it, did that & didn't like it. You haven't ever done that? Seems like a reasonable thing to do to me. Maybe you are the lying troll or moron Mr. Kettle.

[EzraBarks]

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quote] Awesome? Dysfunctional, however you spell it, is slang, anyway, and has only recently become part of the vernacular (to describe most if not all families, so it's redundant, at best). And...does the God mode actually work? Because that would be... AWESOME!

Count on a RWNJ (right-wing nut job) to insert political invective into a (semi-) rational discussion about Windows 8! And you are not even right about contemporary English usage. Those are all perfectly usable, perfectly good words and are understood as such. Trust me, I was an English major. Words do change in meaning. "Silly" once meant "blessed" and the B-word used to mean a female dog. Count on a RWNJ to insist on the "original intent" of a word.

Now, as to Windows 8. People at Microsoft never heard what my daddy used to say, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." But what they did hear was the sound of money. Windows 8 is a marketing scam pure and simple. I cannot think of a single attribute of the new user interface that is any real benefit to either professional or casual users, and I am saying this as an IT professional with over thirty years experience in the field.

I don't think most consumers are aware of just how badly Microsoft has stacked the deck. New PCs sold with Windows 8 have hardware that does not allow W8 to be uninstalled and Win7 installed in its place. This is a huge lever that Microsoft has to FORCE Win8 as the new standard despite the fact that it is even more universally hated than the totally inept and equally useless Windows Vista.

So tell me this, O RWNJ, why is it good when money gets distributed UP to Microsoft or Exxon but socialism when it is distributed down to someone who might actually need it?

[ke6ziu]

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quote] Awesome? Dysfunctional, however you spell it, is slang, anyway, and has only recently become part of the vernacular (to describe most if not all families, so it's redundant, at best). And...does the God mode actually work? Because that would be... AWESOME! Count on a RWNJ (right-wing nut job) to insert political invective into a (semi-) rational discussion about Windows 8! And you are not even right about contemporary English usage. Those are all perfectly usable, perfectly good words and are understood as such. Trust me, I was an English major. Words do change in meaning. "Silly" once meant "blessed" and the B-word used to mean a female dog. Count on a RWNJ to insist on the "original intent" of a word. Now, as to Windows 8. People at Microsoft never heard what my daddy used to say, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." But what they did hear was the sound of money. Windows 8 is a marketing scam pure and simple. I cannot think of a single attribute of the new user interface that is any real benefit to either professional or casual users, and I am saying this as an IT professional with over thirty years experience in the field. I don't think most consumers are aware of just how badly Microsoft has stacked the deck. New PCs sold with Windows 8 have hardware that does not allow W8 to be uninstalled and Win7 installed in its place. This is a huge lever that Microsoft has to FORCE Win8 as the new standard despite the fact that it is even more universally hated than the totally inept and equally useless Windows Vista. So tell me this, O RWNJ, why is it good when money gets distributed UP to Microsoft or Exxon but socialism when it is distributed down to someone who might actually need it?

If I had wanted a tablet, I'd have bought another Android tablet, or wasted money on an I Pad... I'm an IT professional, as well as a security consultant. The previous holes in Wind0ze are still there. When will Micro$oft finally get it through their heads that you need to plug those holes in the O/S before you release a new O/S!!! This is why I prefer 'nux over Wind0ze... I can't wait until I get enough money for a retainer to sue BSA!!!

[ke6ziu]

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People don't know about these, and other things, in Windows 8 because Microsoft has hid everything. If you had a functioning Start Menu on the Desktop Interface, they could have placed these items under the Accessories menu, etc. and they'd be easy to see and use. But with the disfunctional Start Screen of Windows 8, now you have to 'search' for everything by typing in a term on your keyboard, but the only problem is nobody knows what all exists in Windows 8 to have any clue what to even search on in the first place since it's all hidden! Its DYSFUNCTIONAL for ONE. And two stop being an idiot, the same options were in Windows 7, Windows Vista, and Windows XP. That fact you didnt know that make you the moron.

Now now, be nice to the neophytes!!! They didn't know, because they didn't take the time you and I did to learn about our O/S. That's why we're gainfully employed as IT people...

[Felwitch]

I laugh every time someone complains about there not being a start menu. I got windows 8 in November 2012, the Start menu is the large blue screen that you see after you log into. Fully customizable, even more so than windows 7. It only takes 3 clicks to shutdown/restart, same as windows 7. Since Windows 8 is mod friendly, you can set up key-board macros to start programs.