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Post your comments for Ubuntu Linux 13.04 hits alpha, but details are under wraps here

[MichaelHallp14s]

Skunkworks is not a major part of Ubuntu 13.04's development. Skunkworks is work being done "in addition to" the normal cycle development.

As always, this cycle's work items from UDS are all listed here: http://status.ubuntu.../ubuntu-raring/

Again, nothing is less open or less public about Ubuntu's development this cycle.

[IndianArt]

Good thing there is controversy. Helps get free publicity for Ubuntu.

[TOREZA33]

...In April of 2013,Ubuntu will take over Windows systems. It's about the time.
Big Intel is running behind. Big Microsoft get's in trouble with own windows 8.

[ibm450]

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...In April of 2013,Ubuntu will take over Windows systems. It's about the time. Big Intel is running behind. Big Microsoft get's in trouble with own windows 8.

Not trying to start a flame war here, even though im a long term linux user myself, i disagree with what you are stating.

ubuntus performance & quality isnt even close compared to the ancient windows 2000. even xp rains all over ubuntus performance.

linux has poor desktop hardware driver support (nvidia & amd). win8 PERFORMS so much more efficiently and is alot more snappier on older hardware then what ubuntu does on newer hardware.

windows will never feel threatened by linux when it comes to desktop Dominance. heck, libre office dosnt even come with thesaurus nor synonym! its basic things as such makes linux in general, less enticing for consumer/business market to adopt and take it seriously enough to roll out . FOSS software alone is predated and behind todays recommended standards.

[Zedd]

I have tried ubuntu on several occasions and untill they can get proper java support and make it more plug and play campatible then I don't see me throwing my windows disks away. Zorin does a good job of imitating windows but still installing programs is a hit or miss operation. I personally don't need anything that looks or acts like windows but I do want something that allows me to install a program with a measure of confidence that it will run when I am done. I don't care if I have to write in a bit of code even if I know it is going to be worth it and as it stands now, that just isn't there for me. Linux is the greatest at some things but in my opinion, being an everyday windows replacement operating system is not even in the top 100 things linux is good at.

I understand that alot of this trouble is on the software devolopers shoulders and not the linux devolpers fault, but there has to be a compromise that will work somewhere in the middle.

[IndianArt]

@ibm450 If you have & had *all* these problems with Linux, how come you are 'a long term Linux user'?! Contradictions.

LibreOffice has many features that a monopolistic competitor does not. For example, LO comes with a feature where one can easily convert & save documents to PDF in just two clicks. I find LO/AOO far more customizable than other office suites. LO is getting better & better at a lightning pace.

I also disagree with your claim that FOSS software is predated, just one example: Firefox.

[Enigmatic]

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@ibm450 If you have & had all these problems with Linux, how come you are 'a long term Linux user'?! Contradictions.

Obviously, he also experiences many positives with it as well.

[waldojim]

IndianArt, on 08 December 2012 - 07:32 AM, said:

@ibm450 If you have & had *all* these problems with Linux, how come you are 'a long term Linux user'?! Contradictions.

LibreOffice has many features that a monopolistic competitor does not. For example, LO comes with a feature where one can easily convert & save documents to PDF in just two clicks. I find LO/AOO far more customizable than other office suites. LO is getting better & better at a lightning pace.

I also disagree with your claim that FOSS software is predated, just one example: Firefox.

Not sure about the person you asked, but some of us like to learn.

[ChrisWortman]

Ok as for the secrecy, it has driven me as a user away. I use Linux because I trust it. I trust the open and honest behavior. Secrecy is what Microsoft and Apple do and is the major deciding factor for me. Oh well every fad has to come to an end, and this will drive the core users away.

As for Windows and making Linux more plug and play, use any RPM based distribution, no need to get frustrated at things being plug and play. Everything works in Fedora. Everything performs better in Fedora... I guess it is my new home distro. Sorry Ubuntu has made too many bad decisions for my taste. 12.10 came broken out of the box for nvidia users claiming "avoid the pain of Windows 8" but completely borked when you tried to install an nvidia driver. I have never borked any other OS by installing a driver. Unity is still hell. It spys on your usage and sends your usage statistics to Amazon and sells you without telling you.

Ubuntu has disintegrated from being amazing and wonderful, to something barely laughable and quite honestly I feel sorry for those who continue to use it. All flaming aside even. It is really sad because I had high hopes for Ubuntu.

[eemail]

I tried my hand at linux 20 years ago
gave up
and waiting since then for it become as user friendly (with on line help) as windoze and at the same time containing server level facilities
Bottom line : its meant for hobbyists (jobless) who have pleeeeenty of time.

[YellowApple]

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I tried my hand at linux 20 years ago gave up and waiting since then for it become as user friendly (with on line help) as windoze and at the same time containing server level facilities Bottom line : its meant for hobbyists (jobless) who have pleeeeenty of time.

If the last time you used Linux was 20 years ago, then you should probably give it a whirl now. It's not all command-lines and compiling from source anymore; it's actually (in my opinion at least, and in the opinion of quite a few of the individuals who I've managed to get to switch) *easier* to use than Windows.

20 years ago... the distributions back then were, what? MCC? Softlanding? Yggdrasil? *shudder*