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[newyorkcitymale]

You know, if you're going to make a statement as dramatic as, "Microsoft is on track to sell some 500,000 Surface RT tablets in the December quarter, below expected sales of up to 3 million," then you should at least have the decency to name your source.

[KyleDavis]

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You know, if you're going to make a statement as dramatic as, "Microsoft is on track to sell some 500,000 Surface RT tablets in the December quarter, below expected sales of up to 3 million," then you should at least have the decency to name your source.

Exactly. Articles are trowing that number around as if it's fact, when we really have no clue at this point. And "not selling well" is a relative concept. With Microsoft's limited distribution, it's not surprising that sales weren't just through the roof.

[Grrreath3lg]

It's not like they weren't going to build products for Windows 8. But I don't buy into this argument that it's not worth Dell's time to build for Android, pointing blame on Androids being a low margin business -- the commoditization of consumer electronics, especially computers, is hardly new.

[JeremyCooke]

You know, Im using Window 8 daily, it has its issues but its damn fast. I could see Dell not building Android, my reasoning is this, people expect cheap-ass android devices, and for the OEM who's not making a ton of cash on content like say amazon or Google then maybe it just dosen't make sense to them.

[safasdfafsf]

I use Windows 8 too. I really like it.

[WinTard]

The article said:

Dell’s Windows 8 and Windows RT tablets are in line with Microsoft’s own line of Surface tablets, which have not been selling very well, according to analyst estimates ...

The analyst estimates link points to a sub-par publication DealNews.com. Ha!

Well analysts of all sizes and shapes didn't predict any of the stock market crashes, nor the mortgage crisis, so what are analyst good for?

Some idiots (or crooks) analysts continue pushing the propaganda that AAPL is worth $1111 / share, when in reality, today stocks are $11 down from yesterday:
http : // seekingalpha . com / symbol / aapl


So when I read some ANALYST says "buy" I clearly understand they are trying to sell. A classic case of pump and dump (also known as hype and dump).


Did analysts predict any of that? So what are they really good for? Predicting Windows 8 and the Surface tablets are a failure? Or a success?

And it keeps on going down by the minute.


So what happened to that USD $ 166 billion lost? Was that a prediction?


Anyway, I've got my QNX PlayBook tablet, and Android Google / Samsung Nexus 10. So my next tablet will be a Microsoft Surface Pro tablet. You know, the one that runs absolutely everything (including QNX and Android virtualized) under Windows 8! No problems running iOS and OS X virtualized under Windows 8 either, but who would want to? What would be the point?


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[SElope]

You know, Windows tablets have been around for over a decade now. They never sold, because the tablet experience is different from the PC experience. We have a Toshiba XP touchscreen tablet in our office, and I don´t think it has ever been actually used as a tablet.

The x86 architecture makes those machines too heavy, too bulky and too expensive for mass market.

Windows RT was a great product. It could have allowed Microsoft to ride the ARM and touchscreen wave. Pity Microsoft blew its chances by insisting that you use the Surface sitting at a desk with a keyboard. If I want to use a keyboard, I will get myself an ultrabook, not a tablet.

Why do they insist that their Surface tablet is also a desktop and their Surface Pro a tablet? I guess they will never get it right.

[compnovo]

SElope, on 13 December 2012 - 01:33 PM, said:

Windows RT was a great product. It could have allowed Microsoft to ride the ARM and touchscreen wave. Pity Microsoft blew its chances by insisting that you use the Surface sitting at a desk with a keyboard.

Huh?
Why would you think you have to sit at a desk with ANY hybrid Windows RT device? The whole point is to attach a keyboard when you want the laptop experience, and detach it when you want the touchscreen tablet experience.

[brainout]

compnovo, on 13 December 2012 - 02:07 PM, said:

SElope, on 13 December 2012 - 01:33 PM, said:

Windows RT was a great product. It could have allowed Microsoft to ride the ARM and touchscreen wave. Pity Microsoft blew its chances by insisting that you use the Surface sitting at a desk with a keyboard.

Huh?
Why would you think you have to sit at a desk with ANY hybrid Windows RT device? The whole point is to attach a keyboard when you want the laptop experience, and detach it when you want the touchscreen tablet experience.

Yeah, I get that point about the Surface, but there are three problems: 1) connectivity, 2) voice recognition, 3) handwriting recognition. If I had those three things I too would buy one, and the cost would not be a deterrence. I'd even put up with the Fisher-Price annoying interface. But so far, I'm not finding anyone who replicates WhatsThatMean's glorious experience on those three fronts.

I want to find a tablet I can recommend to my clients. I need them to get out of the paper-hungry 1980's. It's hard enough just to get them to use email. They hate computers, but might bite for a tablet, and they have a lot of money to spend. Just because I can't stand Win8 doesn't mean I can't recommend it. But on a tablet, not for a desktop OS, and only if those 3 things are solved. Maybe some other manufacturer's version of a tablet will have those things working well; don't see it happening, with any version of Surface, given its limitations, and especially its port limitations.

Hope springs eternal. I'd love it if Dell made it. Acer's Iconia looked good for awhile, but virtual keyboards are a pain.

This post has been edited by brainout: 13 December 2012 - 04:50 PM

[orkydea]

why should people spend all that money, when they can work on their windows pc totally smoothly with a cheap android tablet, dell's ( ) ) pocketcloud and an internet connection even at thousands km away from pc?

[karthiq]

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You know, Windows tablets have been around for over a decade now. They never sold, because the tablet experience is different from the PC experience. We have a Toshiba XP touchscreen tablet in our office, and I don´t think it has ever been actually used as a tablet. The x86 architecture makes those machines too heavy, too bulky and too expensive for mass market. Windows RT was a great product. It could have allowed Microsoft to ride the ARM and touchscreen wave. Pity Microsoft blew its chances by insisting that you use the Surface sitting at a desk with a keyboard. If I want to use a keyboard, I will get myself an ultrabook, not a tablet. Why do they insist that their Surface tablet is also a desktop and their Surface Pro a tablet? I guess they will never get it right.

Its intel's fault as much as it is MS.But with win8 MS took a step in the right direction with regards to making it tablet friendly. Intel should have done the same. There is no powerful enough atom or wallet/battery friendly core chip from intel for x 86 tabs.

[JimPhilipps]

Nice story... though you should have mentioned/linked to the Forbes story where Jeff Clarke was actually quoted saying that "the Android smartphone ecosystem needs a lot of investment in order to be really successful." Or perhaps it was just a mistake and you forgot about it :-)
Here's the link to the Forbes story that broke the news: http://www.forbes.co...obally-android/