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The negativity surrounding Win 8 was fairly overwhelming in comparison to everything else. As a result, my initial impressions were that it was an OS to avoid, especially given the whole desktop access thing. Nonetheless, it gave me the incentive to fire up VirtualBox (which I needed to do for other reasons) and give Win 8 its own space and time. After about 30 min., I'm hard pressed to see what all the negative fuss is about. With a little effort, everything you were used to is available...easily, right along with the "new stuff". Sure, there are some annoyances but if you can overcome your natural aversion to change (speaking of which some apparently never will thinking XP was the end all of Win OSs; Win 7 blows it away), Win 8 does function, in all respects, quite well even without a touch screen. In fact, re most of the negative stuff is small spuds and I applaud Microsoft for taking a gigantic step toward creating their own ecosystem in reponse to the intense competition out there for Win 8 is far, far more than "just another Windows OS". (There are only two real issues out of the 8 worst article: POP mail and account merging.) P.S. Evidently I'm in agreement with others: at 72, I'm finding more ability to work with change than many others.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 04:27 AM
ben win 8 i atım ama korsan üstelik dokunmatik değil orjinal yapsam dokunmatiği olur mu? acil cevap çünk atacağım
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:30 AM
CarlForster, on 26 December 2012 - 01:38 PM, said:
WIN8 sorry Microsoft you just lost 115 uesrs.
We have gone to the bright side Linux Zorin 6 Ultimate to be exact.
Moved our users (115) to a flavour of Linux "Zorin 6" which has a UI that looks and works like WIN7.
We purchased Zorin 6 Ultimate with DVD media for NZ$30.00 and it has applications also When we can move to Linux flavor Zorin 6 Ultimate, "http://zorin-os.com/premium.html" for NZ$30.00 with DVD and Support per seat.
This includes Libra Office and a full range of Applications Business, Multimedia, Gaming, you don't need to purchase anything else.
And we will also be purchasing Ubuntu Server Advanced loaded or Zental Server "https://store.zentyal.com/" with all options.
The cost saving per user is around NZ$800.00 per user, and the server well we were very surprised, and our accountant loved the savings to the balance sheet.
We have gone to the bright side Linux Zorin 6 Ultimate to be exact.
Moved our users (115) to a flavour of Linux "Zorin 6" which has a UI that looks and works like WIN7.
We purchased Zorin 6 Ultimate with DVD media for NZ$30.00 and it has applications also When we can move to Linux flavor Zorin 6 Ultimate, "http://zorin-os.com/premium.html" for NZ$30.00 with DVD and Support per seat.
This includes Libra Office and a full range of Applications Business, Multimedia, Gaming, you don't need to purchase anything else.
And we will also be purchasing Ubuntu Server Advanced loaded or Zental Server "https://store.zentyal.com/" with all options.
The cost saving per user is around NZ$800.00 per user, and the server well we were very surprised, and our accountant loved the savings to the balance sheet.
Do you still like Zorin Ultimate as much as you did a month ago? I've tried all the conventional versions, downloaded Zorin 6 Ultimate back in September, and am fixing to go read its page on how to install it. But if it's like the other Linux distros I've installed this week (Fedora, Debian, Mint, CentOS, Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Gentoo, Slackware, + two others), all with a stranglehold on user permissions, I don't know if I want to install Zorin. Thank you for your time in reply!
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:00 AM
paleolith, on 26 December 2012 - 04:08 PM, said:
In my opinion, Microsoft is a monopoly and Windows 8 was designed to produce revenue and improve earnings. Windows 7 is fine and renders Windows 8 superfluous.
I was happy to hear that an organization adopted Zorin Linux. I have used the free version of Zorin and I think it is a superb software package.
The only reason I use Windows at home is to keep abreast of it so I can use it at work. I still am perplexed: why do organizations pay for an unstable and virus vulnerable operating system when Linux is there for the taking?
I was happy to hear that an organization adopted Zorin Linux. I have used the free version of Zorin and I think it is a superb software package.
The only reason I use Windows at home is to keep abreast of it so I can use it at work. I still am perplexed: why do organizations pay for an unstable and virus vulnerable operating system when Linux is there for the taking?
Because Linux is even more hitlerian than Windows. Every five seconds there's a permissions problem. Updates the first day I downloaded Fedora -- which was Thursday -- were 552, and took so long it's a good thing I've got another computer to work on. Today, I plugged in and got notification of 528 more 'mission critical' bug fixes and updates. By contrast, a refurbished Win7 Optiplex or a Vista Optiplex which sat around for two YEARS unsold, had only about 70-80 updates each, in Windows Update.
So the security problem in Linux is that there are so many bug fixes every day, that you have to wait for hours for them to download and install. Granted, the Apper is slick -- but since Linux will not recognize the full 32 GB persistence in my Linux stick and tells me I've only got 259 MB of room left though I really have 20 GB -- well, it's not worthwhile. I'm tired of a file management which tells you how many items, but unless you select all the folders despite the tool tips and then go to properties and then wait, you can't know how big the stash is. Not to mention, bugs when clicking, frequent hangs so I have to unplug the computers, etc. I've now tested 10 distros on two Dell Optiplexes with Core 2 Duo -- so the machines are not too new; and on two Dell laptops just purchased (made in 2012 and 2011, respectively). Every one of them shows the same problems in Fedora. Forget Ubuntu and the other 8 distros, they were FAR FAR WORSE.
Really disappointed. I thought 'Open Source' meant what it said. But oh, I can't see my own computer files unless I'm logged in as root? Which now, most distros won't let you do (Mint 14 and Ubuntu 12.10 as examples)? So why will I want to install to a real hard drive which is harder to change, if I can't get full persistence on a stick? FIVE DAYS LOST on testing this. No more.
I hate Windows but its hitlerian interface is intended to compete with Ubuntu (same words by both firms, same goals, same restrictions too)!
This post has been edited by brainout: 10 February 2013 - 08:02 AM
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Posted 12 April 2013 - 02:37 PM
Windows 8 is an unpolished OS, with a main target at touchscreen tablets, and using it for non-touch screen is an after thought. They could of easily made a service pack to Win7 to add in the few improvements that mattered for non-touchscreen users and market Win8 to touch screen only machines. However, I guess you can't make money from service packs. Eventually when all computers have touchscreen ( which I'm guessing will be very likely as prices come down), then folks will be more inclined to want to use Win8.
I only have it because I bought a new laptop for daughter, and it came with it. She is by no means technical ( typical teenage girl) and can get around in win7 fine. I gave her the new machine with win8. She used it all for 15 minutes, and I ended up giving her my Macbook pro. She won't touch the win8 machine, because getting to the stuff she actually uses, like Word was not intuitive for her to get there, or easy ( shortcut keys are not her thing). Maybe if we had a touchscreen, it would of made more sense to her. Whats kinda of funny, is I think she saw the tiles as pictures, and not actual icons to access something, like she is use to.
When I use Win8, I skip the start page tile thingy all together, go straight to the desktop and work from there. Some things I do, I notice now, take an extra key or two to get there.
As for the unpolished part, I have found so many buggy things in it, I would need a complete blog to go on about that. Who makes an app store with apps that only work on the phone, and it doesn't mention that, and will let you download and install it, to only tell you that its only for the phone??? On the mac, I go into their app store, and I only see apps that will actually work on the mac computer. I guess they want it to look like they have more apps available than they do.
Those big transitional screens, goto mail and I have to look at a full screen email page before it actually shows me my mail. Anyone know how to turn that off ? This looks to me to be done in an effort to cover up the slow load time of their built in mail program.
The online integration, kinda of sucks. Lose connection all of sudden nothing works. Wouldn't be so bad if it let me know connection was lost, instead of just hanging there when I try and do something that requires the connection. The average user won't investigate, they will assume the computer is screwed up. News flash MS, a large number of people use wireless, and wireless can be flaky at times, especially if you are using public wireless.
Anyways, I could go on and on and on. I still use the win8 laptop because I got such a deal on it. Won't buy anything else with Win8 on it unless it was touchscreen. I use win7 on all my other computers ( with exception of the mac of course).
Win8, kinda of reminds me of Bob, for those of you that remember that and how well that did. Hopefully, Win8 will evolve into something better.
Oh, btw, Thanks to the person who posted on the Surface, I was interested in knowing how well they "really" worked. I have yet to see one in person, in a store or elsewhere. Seemed interesting, but I guess I'll pass on that and keep my Google Nexus7.
I only have it because I bought a new laptop for daughter, and it came with it. She is by no means technical ( typical teenage girl) and can get around in win7 fine. I gave her the new machine with win8. She used it all for 15 minutes, and I ended up giving her my Macbook pro. She won't touch the win8 machine, because getting to the stuff she actually uses, like Word was not intuitive for her to get there, or easy ( shortcut keys are not her thing). Maybe if we had a touchscreen, it would of made more sense to her. Whats kinda of funny, is I think she saw the tiles as pictures, and not actual icons to access something, like she is use to.
When I use Win8, I skip the start page tile thingy all together, go straight to the desktop and work from there. Some things I do, I notice now, take an extra key or two to get there.
As for the unpolished part, I have found so many buggy things in it, I would need a complete blog to go on about that. Who makes an app store with apps that only work on the phone, and it doesn't mention that, and will let you download and install it, to only tell you that its only for the phone??? On the mac, I go into their app store, and I only see apps that will actually work on the mac computer. I guess they want it to look like they have more apps available than they do.
Those big transitional screens, goto mail and I have to look at a full screen email page before it actually shows me my mail. Anyone know how to turn that off ? This looks to me to be done in an effort to cover up the slow load time of their built in mail program.
The online integration, kinda of sucks. Lose connection all of sudden nothing works. Wouldn't be so bad if it let me know connection was lost, instead of just hanging there when I try and do something that requires the connection. The average user won't investigate, they will assume the computer is screwed up. News flash MS, a large number of people use wireless, and wireless can be flaky at times, especially if you are using public wireless.
Anyways, I could go on and on and on. I still use the win8 laptop because I got such a deal on it. Won't buy anything else with Win8 on it unless it was touchscreen. I use win7 on all my other computers ( with exception of the mac of course).
Win8, kinda of reminds me of Bob, for those of you that remember that and how well that did. Hopefully, Win8 will evolve into something better.
Oh, btw, Thanks to the person who posted on the Surface, I was interested in knowing how well they "really" worked. I have yet to see one in person, in a store or elsewhere. Seemed interesting, but I guess I'll pass on that and keep my Google Nexus7.
