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[max999]

I knew W8 would be a failure. After using the previews for over a year Windows 8 is pretty much DOA. Bad sales during Xmas what does that tell you! LOL!

[Murkalael]

It's simple, if you take the ability of users to choose basic stuff like how my workspace will start to look, you're doomed to a failure. Just like those black screens from vista.

[JohnUSA]

Windows 8 is an absolute failure, it is the worst OS I have ever used and that includes Vista.
It is very poorly designed, and is very irritating to use and I curse all the stupid Microsoft programmers who worked and designed this abysmal OS.
I hear that Microsoft realizes their huge mistake and is working hard and fast to release a fixed and properly designed Windows 9 which may be released this coming summer. I hope and pray that this is true, otherwise it is bankruptcy for inept Microsoft.

[thewazak]

"Windows 8 failed to match Windows Vista’s uptake"
So what? Did MS even suggest it would? What's the rush?

"The inability of W8 to keep pace with Vista is a troubling sign"
Why? On the back of an only recently released W7, why would satisfied users upgrade? And bearing in mind corporate users have still not, or have only just upgraded to W7, why would they upgrade?

"Windows 8—and the PCs that run it—must compete with tablets"
Hogwash! You are simply comparing chalk with cheese! Content creators need a tablet like an extra hole in the butt - and PC's are actually useful.

No one, not even MS is pushing upgrades - so what is the issue? W8 is available - if you want it.

I have both chalk and cheese: a W7 desktop and a new Samsung W8 Pro tablet. It's like having both a wrench and a screwdriver in the toolbox.

But what is the point of arguing: heads are clearly buried in the sand here.

[BulldogXX]

Windows 8 has compelling features that should make it a winner: equally adept on a desktop and a tablet. Unfortunately, Microsoft is trying to bury the desktop and in so doing is alienating a huge part of their user base.

[CarlForster]

Why Would........
A company 115 users move to WIN8 and Office 2013 at a cost of NZ$850 per seat not including HW and Application requirements, we wont/dont use upgrades, or touch screens, and phones are phones NOT computers.

When we can move to Linux flavor Zorin 6 Ultimate, "http://zorin-os.com/premium.html" for NZ$30.00 with DVD and Support.

This includes Libra Office and a full range of Applications Business, Multimedia, Gaming, you don't need to purchase anything else.

Zorins UI is much like WIN7 and it also has an application to run MS applications, have a look.

Sorry MS you just lost our seats, and our financial controller loves the saving in the bank.

[HOODY]

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Windows 8 is an absolute failure, it is the worst OS I have ever used and that includes Vista. It is very poorly designed, and is very irritating to use and I curse all the stupid Microsoft programmers who worked and designed this abysmal OS. I hear that Microsoft realizes their huge mistake and is working hard and fast to release a fixed and properly designed Windows 9 which may be released this coming summer. I hope and pray that this is true, otherwise it is bankruptcy for inept Microsoft.

Hell with a "fixed" W9, how about a "fixed" "SP" for W8 users NOW

[vince8]

You hit the nail on the head. Windows 8 on tablet=perfect. Windows 8 on desktop/laptop=garbage.

[anilgupta98022]

I AM WAITING FOR WINDOW 8 ON DELL PRECISION T7600 WORKSTATION I WAS INFORMED THAT IT MAY TAKE 2 MONTHES WHEN WINDOW 8 WITH MEDIA CENTER PACK WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR DESKTOP AND WORKSTATIONS ,MANY ARE EAGERLY WAITING FOR WINDOW 8 ON DESKTOP ,HOW WE CAN SAY WINDOW 8 A FLOP WHEN IT IS STILL NOT AVAILABLE ON DESKTOP PC AND WHO SAYS WINDOW VISTA WAS A FLOP I AM STILL USING IT AND NO PROBLEMS.

[ronin7752]

No problem! M$ is warming up with a "bigger hammer" as you read this.

End-users be d*mned! They *will* like Windows 8 whether they want to or not!!! The Great Ballimer has Spoken!

8D

[ronin7752]

Interesting that this article attributes the slow uptake on business "upgrade fatigue" rather than end-user befuddlement. ...As if end-user confusion and hatred of the system would not be a factor that businesses would consider important.

I promise you that if Win 8 realistically delivered *even half* of the end-user efficiency improvements that it promised, businesses would be *clamoring* to upgrade.

However, IT Pros with extensive experience in the nature and requirements of end-users knew from the beginning that Win 8 would be a disaster.

And here we are.... (Except for the Astro-turfers and M$ groupies.)

The only difference between Vista and Win 8 is that Vista's flaws were unintentional. Win 8 design was intentionally blasted through with relentless stupidity. But you can bet that Ballimer will still get his bonuses!

[ronin7752]

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Windows 8 is an absolute failure, it is the worst OS I have ever used and that includes Vista. It is very poorly designed, and is very irritating to use and I curse all the stupid Microsoft programmers who worked and designed this abysmal OS. I hear that Microsoft realizes their huge mistake and is working hard and fast to release a fixed and properly designed Windows 9 which may be released this coming summer. I hope and pray that this is true, otherwise it is bankruptcy for inept Microsoft.

Not likely. Anything re-engineered that quickly will not be great -- even if they really are doing it.

And what a (bad) joke this is: The time lapse between Win 7 and Win 8 is the fastest I've seen for the huge changes in the platform. Whether it's carpentry or programming, a job can be done fast, good, or cheap. You can get any two of those qualities -- *but you can't get all three.*

Seriously, us end-users will foot the bill for M$'s stupidity in Win 8. Just like we always do. M$ releases a crappy new platform -- then releases a second "new" platform that does nothing but fix the problems of the first. ...And we pay for both.

If you think the *government* wastes your *tax* dollars-- I guarantee mega-corps like M$, ATT, (et al) wastes FAR more of your *spending* dollars due to stupidity and business politics....!!

[doanhp]

You're an idiot. You release new OS to make money and get people to buy your OS & surface. They failed miserably.

[WinTard]

All you bunches of asses naysayers are too dumb to realize you are repeating history concerning Windows 7. LMAO!

Come back in one year to see the real picture. Just like Windows 7 was.

As for me, and all of my friends and colleagues, it is Windows 8 all the way! Completely satisfied and impressed no less. So far, no touch necessary! Only my old trusty mouse.

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{Obvious natural bell distribution curve}

Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
~ George Santayana

I like the dreams of the future better than the history of the past.
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[LiveBrianD]

WinTard, on 01 March 2013 - 01:37 PM, said:

All you bunches of asses naysayers are too dumb to realize you are repeating history concerning Windows 7. LMAO!

Come back in one year to see the real picture. Just like Windows 7 was.

As for me, and all of my friends and colleagues, it is Windows 8 all the way! Completely satisfied and impressed no less. So far, no touch necessary! Only my old trusty mouse.

~~~~~~~~~~~~
The masses are for the asses...
{Obvious natural bell distribution curve}

Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
~ George Santayana

I like the dreams of the future better than the history of the past.
~ Patrick Henry, 1736-1799

Hegel was right when he said that we learn from history that man can never learn anything from history.
~ George Bernard Shaw

I sure don't remember many people complaining about 7 when it came out, if ever. 8 on the other hand...

[WinTard]

LiveBrianD, on 01 March 2013 - 02:20 PM, said:

WinTard, on 01 March 2013 - 01:37 PM, said:

All you bunches of asses naysayers are too dumb to realize you are repeating history concerning Windows 7. LMAO!

Come back in one year to see the real picture. Just like Windows 7 was.

As for me, and all of my friends and colleagues, it is Windows 8 all the way! Completely satisfied and impressed no less. So far, no touch necessary! Only my old trusty mouse.

~~~~~~~~~~~~
The masses are for the asses...
{Obvious natural bell distribution curve}

Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
~ George Santayana

I like the dreams of the future better than the history of the past.
~ Patrick Henry, 1736-1799

Hegel was right when he said that we learn from history that man can never learn anything from history.
~ George Bernard Shaw

I sure don't remember many people complaining about 7 when it came out, if ever. 8 on the other hand...

Dear Brian, you obviously forgot, it's all there @ PCWorld! The day I joined back on January 16 2009, I joined because there was so much BS+FUD that my mission was to set the record straight, with simple, verifiable facts. Now almost everyone claims they like Win7. But that wasn't the case back then. Where do you think my 6000+ posts came from? Debunking FUD, not with one liners, but with posts packing real substance. Not just mere opinions, or prejudice.



Anyway, who cares?, Windows FTW! As far as I am concerned!

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[LiveBrianD]

WinTard, on 01 March 2013 - 05:44 PM, said:

Dear Brian, you obviously forgot, it's all there @ PCWorld! The day I joined back on January 16 2009, I joined because there was so much BS+FUD that my mission was to set the record straight, with simple, verifiable facts. Now almost everyone claims they like Win7. But that wasn't the case back then. Where do you think my 6000+ posts came from? Debunking FUD, not with one liners, but with posts packing real substance. Not just mere opinions, or prejudice.

Sure, no matter what, you'll always get a few idiots. That said, when you have a huge portion of the userbase and a LOT of reviewers complaining about something that should've been easy to fix, you've got a problem.

[brainout]

WinTard, on 01 March 2013 - 01:37 PM, said:

All you bunches of asses naysayers are too dumb to realize you are repeating history concerning Windows 7. LMAO!

Come back in one year to see the real picture. Just like Windows 7 was.

As for me, and all of my friends and colleagues, it is Windows 8 all the way! Completely satisfied and impressed no less. So far, no touch necessary! Only my old trusty mouse.

~~~~~~~~~~~~
The masses are for the asses...
{Obvious natural bell distribution curve}

Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
~ George Santayana

I like the dreams of the future better than the history of the past.
~ Patrick Henry, 1736-1799

Hegel was right when he said that we learn from history that man can never learn anything from history.
~ George Bernard Shaw

Look, darling: canned vague posts like this don't help demonstrate why Win8 is, as you say, superior. MS' own explanations and especially ads, are just as canned and vague, using DANCERS instead of FACTS, for crying out loud.

We don't want teenage dancers. That makes Win8 look like the stupid product it is. We want INFO. We're not getting it.

WHY is Win8 better, tell us that. 3000 user reviews I've read in Amazon and Tiger Direct, etc., not to mention all the commenters on articles who actually USED it, all report horror stories. I bought Win8 upgrades (2x), but don't want to even bother installing, since after watching pro- and con- Win8 usage videos in Youtube, I realized Win8 is a pile of junk.

Windows 7 is better than Vista but worse than XP, so the initial complaining against Win7, remains apt. However, some of what was wrong in XP, is fixed in Win7, making it usable. I just amended my review of Windows 7 in Amazon, listing the details. So why can't I find such a DETAILED review for Windows 8 by a fanboy, like yourself? The only folks giving detailed reviews, explain what's wrong with it. Else, all we hear are Win8 chirpers. It gets old.

Prove me wrong. Please. I spent $130 for the Win8 upgrades, and need convincing they are worth even trying.

This post has been edited by brainout: 01 March 2013 - 08:33 PM