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#21 User is online   brainout 

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 01:04 PM

View PostLiveBrianD, on 17 January 2013 - 10:42 PM, said:

View Postbrainout, on 17 January 2013 - 10:25 PM, said:

View Postronin7752, on 07 January 2013 - 07:47 PM, said:

You are right that POP is a a major chore on multiple machines. Due to its architecture, it always will be.

However, some people/small businesses need to archive gigabytes of email for professional reasons, Exchange Servers are vast overkill for them, and they don't wish to pay increasing annual costs for Cloud storage. For those people, local storage/backup is always the best option.

Also IMAP is "clearly superior" only if you are guaranteed to have Internet access all the time, and never need to access old email stored locally when you are out of Internet reach.

In short -- to those who read this -- IMAP is NOT clearly superior for a not-too-small minority of users. Just make sure you aren't one of them before committing to the "clearly surperior" IMAP.


Agreed IMAP is NOT superior to POP: especially because synching leaves you at the mercy of the programmer. Browser synching, for example, wrecked my Chrome browser: to this day I can't reinstall it on the machine which got wrecked (because I couldn't change the synching until AFTER signing in); the sync PRECEDED the option to change it. So now I've only got Firefox. The latter's synching isn't much better, if you HAD set up a 'paired device' you no longer want paired. Too bad: when you use that other device with Firefox, automatically all your stuff is synched in the same method as before -- here that was disastrous, as the prior synch had been to download all the links etc. I had uploaded from another machine. So whatever new links I had on the second machine, were replaced. Same problem exists on Kindle for PC. I had to ask the Kindle people to completely reset all my devices and redo only one of them. I'm afraid to use it again. (Secret is to never download the books; or, once downloaded, never access them again from another machine.)

Fine, that's only browser links and books which all stay in the cloud anyway. But email? Do you want to access your email online via IMAP and have your existing email replaced in the name of synching? I bet not.

By contrast, POP mail can be easily managed across machines. In Outlook Express (and presumably in Outlook), you can specify what 'folder' to use for your email 'store'. In OE you cannot select a flash or pocket drive, but you can select a small external hard drive. (Maybe Outlook will allow pen/thumb/flash drive off-storage, I've not tested it yet). So then just unplug and take your mail with you. I do the same with my browser links, passwords, etc. Far better than IMAP, because I can access the mail without having to be online. I compose offline, too. Saves time and hassle.

Sticking with POP, and staying away from Win8, even though I now own it.


Hmm - Hotmail syncing with the Live Mail client (similar to IMAP, but more proprietary unfortunately), Xmarks (browser bookmark syncing addon), and Dropbox works fine for me. That said, Chrome's syncing HAS been an issue - one day, I deleted a bookmark intentionally, and upon syncing it, it put it back. I deleted it, sync'd it, and it put it back AGAIN. I did this about 15 times and it kept insisting on putting the same bookmark back there that I obviously didn't want. Eventually, I gave up, disabled Chrome's syncing, and switched to xmarks, which hasn't given any problems so far. Who knows?

Hey, Brian -- What browser works with Xmarks? Thank you for your time!

BTW, I want to avoid Firefox synching, too. So far, I just export the Firefox bookmarks into an html I can then use with either IE or other Firefox, Chrome on my other machines. (I tend to use only one computer for internetting, with the others as alternates when the main machine is downloading or being cloned.)

As for hotmail, thanks for the info. I'll pass it onto my hotmail clients. I've yet to test if Windows Live Essentials from Win7 will be 'read' by Win8. But then, I just got my Win8, and the laptops on which I intend to put it for experimentation, don't arrive until later today or Monday. Not sure I'll have time to play with all that, prior to January 31 deadline. If I can't do it by 1/31, then I'll wait until December. :)

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:40 PM

View Postbrainout, on 18 January 2013 - 01:04 PM, said:

Hey, Brian -- What browser works with Xmarks? Thank you for your time!

BTW, I want to avoid Firefox synching, too. So far, I just export the Firefox bookmarks into an html I can then use with either IE or other Firefox, Chrome on my other machines. (I tend to use only one computer for internetting, with the others as alternates when the main machine is downloading or being cloned.)

As for hotmail, thanks for the info. I'll pass it onto my hotmail clients. I've yet to test if Windows Live Essentials from Win7 will be 'read' by Win8. But then, I just got my Win8, and the laptops on which I intend to put it for experimentation, don't arrive until later today or Monday. Not sure I'll have time to play with all that, prior to January 31 deadline. If I can't do it by 1/31, then I'll wait until December. :)


I use Chrome, but Firefox, Internet Explorer, and Safari work as well. Live Essentials works the same in 8 as it does in 7, as far as I know.

By the way, you have until Jan 31 to buy the copy of 8 - you don't have to install it by then. Think of it as buying an item on sale, and not opening the box until after the sale ends. Nothing with that, right?

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  Posted 05 April 2013 - 07:41 PM

Thanks for all the input everyone. I was all depressed with windows 8 at first glance ...I think I see the light at the end of the tunnel now. If I run into any great epic thoughts someday I hope I hope to return the favor.
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  Posted 11 May 2013 - 08:45 AM

KNRover said:

Minor correction in the article. It mentions "Windows Mail". Windows Mail is available only in one OS: Vista. . . and it's part of Vista/cannot be downloaded separately. The separate Windows mail program is Windows LIVE Mail.


This is accurate. "Windows Mail" is not available, it is Windows Live Mail that is installed as part of Windows Essentials. Try setting up pop in WLM... good luck! It has no import feature for email accounts or email messages (none that I could find, anyway). I had Windows Mail installed on Windows 7, now upgraded to a new PC with Win 8 and it seems I have no way to import any of my saved emails. I can't simply abandon them, so what is the solution?
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Posted 12 May 2013 - 12:31 AM

View Postronin7752, on 07 January 2013 - 07:47 PM, said:

You are right that POP is a a major chore on multiple machines. Due to its architecture, it always will be.

However, some people/small businesses need to archive gigabytes of email for professional reasons, Exchange Servers are vast overkill for them, and they don't wish to pay increasing annual costs for Cloud storage. For those people, local storage/backup is always the best option.

Also IMAP is "clearly superior" only if you are guaranteed to have Internet access all the time, and never need to access old email stored locally when you are out of Internet reach.

In short -- to those who read this -- IMAP is NOT clearly superior for a not-too-small minority of users. Just make sure you aren't one of them before committing to the "clearly surperior" IMAP.

POP is superior, actually. I store all my mail on one external drive (excluding backups), so I just move the drive from one machine to another. I have several email addresses, and they all download every time I invoke the installed email client, be it Outlook Express or Outlook. From any machine, anywhere. No hassle at all. BTW, Comcast uses POP, as do many other large IP providers and other sources. So for Win8 to omit POP support, or to make you go through arcane and unintuitive hoops to figure out how to get POP support, is not wise.

So POP is superior to IMAP, because all my email remains OFFLINE so no one can hack into the addressbook, nor into the email, except perhaps that day's portion which I've not yet downloaded. IMAP is more complicated to learn, use, maintain; easier to screw up, too.
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