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Post your comments for Windows 8 license sales hit 60 million here

[brainout]

I'm one of the 80 million, and I wonder how many are like me: I just bought the Win8 Pro upgrade at Amazon, late last night. It's not even been shipped yet. Did that, because of the January 31 deadline, the $67 price was more than I wanted to pay already, but it would go up, later; you get both 64-bit and 32-bit Windows 8 Pro options for that price.

But do I plan to use it? No. Asked for my Media Center product key yesterday, MS delivered it today, and so long as I INSTALL the Win8 on a machine, I'll get the Media Center for free. Whoopee. Saving $10 for what will cost me $1,500 in TIME to hassle with on installation and learning curve. That's before I install any added software.

So do you think, now that I realize how that $10 savings is no savings at all -- it won't even play your DVDs properly, versus BUYING the thing for the $10 -- do you think I'll actually INSTALL Win8 before January 31, the next-busiest tax day of the year for all employers (when W-2's are due to be mailed)? NO.

So how many 'licenses' were purchased with the above or similar reasoning? Bet you many. It's that, or pay $175+ for Win7, or more for Win8 System Builder (which you have to buy in ONLY 32-bit or ONLY 64-bit, $99 at Amazon).

Hedge purchases are not deployments. A more realistic measure would be how many Win8 machines are actually USED. Only then will you know its true value.

Meanwhile, if you want XP Pro OS now, even the OS upgrade price is as high or higher than Win7's, in Amazon. (LOL some of the vendors are selling the OS retail sealed=new upgrade, for over $400.)

This post has been edited by brainout: 09 January 2013 - 10:33 AM

[Kretek]

I whole heatedly agree, brainout. More than likely a lot of companies are buying up this software at a reduced price but I don't suspect it'll be worth it. I see Windows 8 as another Windows Vista. It'll be "acceptable" but will die again. As much as companies want us to, the traditional PC is all about point-and-click and keyboards. It is what it is. And I love it.

[Xach]

Maybe very small companies will buy pro at the 40 dollar price. But large corporations use a system that only activates copies that are in use. And they get a discount anyway besides the 40 dollar upgrade.

Even our rather small non profit does this with windows 7.

And windows 8 is great. I use it with no problems can't wait to get tablets rolling in our business.

[safasdfafsf]

I really like my Windows 8 upgrade!

[MKZ1945]

I’m not sure why someone would blow around $70.00 for something they have no intention of using. In regards to Media Center, it’s been around for years and I have to admit that I hardly ever use it. There are so many freeware programs available that do a much better job as a music and/or video player and organizer, and the rest of the fluff associated with Media Center is usless to me.

I’m not sure what the hassle is associated with installing Windows 8. I installed it on two of my computers and on one of my daughters computers and I don’t recall any hassles. I did all of this in one day with plenty of time left over. This included showing my daughter and my wife how to use the system with a mouse and keyboard. Although I could take or leave the start screen, they both like it. I’ve got some newer hardware on one of my computers that I had to get drivers for in order to achieve full functionality, and that probably wasted 20 minutes of my life. Every program that had been running in Windows 7 or Vista ran just fine in Windows 8 with the exception of Microsoft outlook. I had to change the POP to IMAP, and that wasted another 15 minutes of my life, but since IMAP is a little more secure it’s probably not really a waste of time. Regardless, if I would have got $1500.00 for the time I spent for all of this it would have been a lot more than I was charging on a per-hour basis for my services as a contractor.

It’s to bad people don’t want to spend a little time learning something new. Actually, they’re just a little picky about what they want to learn. Most that are complaining about the time wasted to learn how to navigate Windows 8 probably spent a lot more time getting proficient at texting with their phones, and I’m sure there are several million people that think texting is waste of time.

There’s a lot of reasons Windows 8 is on a slow start and probably one of the major reasons is it came up to soon after Windows 7, which is a very good operating system. The fact that Windows 8 is designed for touchscreen operation, I’m sure, is another reason. That should have little to do with a learning curve for most people who have smartphones or tablets, but I suppose it’s different so it’s scary. I don’t see touchscreen use in a desktop environment as catching on unless the monitors can be laid flat on a horizontal surface. Using a touchscreen in a vertical position on a continuous basis will probably result in visits to a doctor for arm and shoulder strains of some sort.

[HarleyMeekins]

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I’m not sure why someone would blow around $70.00 for something they have no intention of using. In regards to Media Center, it’s been around for years and I have to admit that I hardly ever use it. There are so many freeware programs available that do a much better job as a music and/or video player and organizer, and the rest of the fluff associated with Media Center is usless to me. I’m not sure what the hassle is associated with installing Windows 8. I installed it on two of my computers and on one of my daughters computers and I don’t recall any hassles. I did all of this in one day with plenty of time left over. This included showing my daughter and my wife how to use the system with a mouse and keyboard. Although I could take or leave the start screen, they both like it. I’ve got some newer hardware on one of my computers that I had to get drivers for in order to achieve full functionality, and that probably wasted 20 minutes of my life. Every program that had been running in Windows 7 or Vista ran just fine in Windows 8 with the exception of Microsoft outlook. I had to change the POP to IMAP, and that wasted another 15 minutes of my life, but since IMAP is a little more secure it’s probably not really a waste of time. Regardless, if I would have got $1500.00 for the time I spent for all of this it would have been a lot more than I was charging on a per-hour basis for my services as a contractor. It’s to bad people don’t want to spend a little time learning something new. Actually, they’re just a little picky about what they want to learn. Most that are complaining about the time wasted to learn how to navigate Windows 8 probably spent a lot more time getting proficient at texting with their phones, and I’m sure there are several million people that think texting is waste of time. There’s a lot of reasons Windows 8 is on a slow start and probably one of the major reasons is it came up to soon after Windows 7, which is a very good operating system. The fact that Windows 8 is designed for touchscreen operation, I’m sure, is another reason. That should have little to do with a learning curve for most people who have smartphones or tablets, but I suppose it’s different so it’s scary. I don’t see touchscreen use in a desktop environment as catching on unless the monitors can be laid flat on a horizontal surface. Using a touchscreen in a vertical position on a continuous basis will probably result in visits to a doctor for arm and shoulder strains of some sort.

You're in luck! Lenovo is releasing a Windows 8 tablet / table device for just that reason.

[hotonehere]

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I'm one of the 80 million, and I wonder how many are like me: I just bought the Win8 Pro upgrade at Amazon, late last night. It's not even been shipped yet. Did that, because of the January 31 deadline, the $67 price was more than I wanted to pay already, but it would go up, later; you get both 64-bit and 32-bit Windows 8 Pro options for that price. But do I plan to use it? No. Asked for my Media Center product key yesterday, MS delivered it today, and so long as I INSTALL the Win8 on a machine, I'll get the Media Center for free. Whoopee. Saving $10 for what will cost me $1,500 in TIME to hassle with on installation and learning curve. That's before I install any added software. So do you think, now that I realize how that $10 savings is no savings at all -- it won't even play your DVDs properly, versus BUYING the thing for the $10 -- do you think I'll actually INSTALL Win8 before January 31, the next-busiest tax day of the year for all employers (when W-2's are due to be mailed)? NO. So how many 'licenses' were purchased with the above or similar reasoning? Bet you many. It's that, or pay $175+ for Win7, or more for Win8 System Builder (which you have to buy in ONLY 32-bit or ONLY 64-bit, $99 at Amazon). Hedge purchases are not deployments. A more realistic measure would be how many Win8 machines are actually USED. Only then will you know its true value. Meanwhile, if you want XP Pro OS now, even the OS upgrade price is as high or higher than Win7's, in Amazon. (LOL some of the vendors are selling the OS retail sealed=new upgrade, for over $400.)

Your whole post sounds like blah, blah and blah!!

[rexdking]

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I'm one of the 80 million, and I wonder how many are like me: I just bought the Win8 Pro upgrade at Amazon, late last night. It's not even been shipped yet. Did that, because of the January 31 deadline, the $67 price was more than I wanted to pay already, but it would go up, later; you get both 64-bit and 32-bit Windows 8 Pro options for that price. But do I plan to use it? No. Asked for my Media Center product key yesterday, MS delivered it today, and so long as I INSTALL the Win8 on a machine, I'll get the Media Center for free. Whoopee. Saving $10 for what will cost me $1,500 in TIME to hassle with on installation and learning curve. That's before I install any added software. So do you think, now that I realize how that $10 savings is no savings at all -- it won't even play your DVDs properly, versus BUYING the thing for the $10 -- do you think I'll actually INSTALL Win8 before January 31, the next-busiest tax day of the year for all employers (when W-2's are due to be mailed)? NO. So how many 'licenses' were purchased with the above or similar reasoning? Bet you many. It's that, or pay $175+ for Win7, or more for Win8 System Builder (which you have to buy in ONLY 32-bit or ONLY 64-bit, $99 at Amazon). Hedge purchases are not deployments. A more realistic measure would be how many Win8 machines are actually USED. Only then will you know its true value. Meanwhile, if you want XP Pro OS now, even the OS upgrade price is as high or higher than Win7's, in Amazon. (LOL some of the vendors are selling the OS retail sealed=new upgrade, for over $400.)

Buying something you are never going to use is not saving any money, you do realize that, dont you? If you are not smart enough to understand that, I certainly am not going to listen to your opinion.

[karthiq]

If win7 sales also included sales to manufacturers in its 60 mil figure, then win8 isnt doing bad. And ofcourse its lower price point compared to win 7 is also helping it.

[MKZ1945]

[quote] I’m not sure why someone would blow around $70.00 for something they have no intention of using. In regards to Media Center, it’s been around for years and I have to admit that I hardly ever use it. There are so many freeware programs available that do a much better job as a music and/or video player and organizer, and the rest of the fluff associated with Media Center is usless to me. I’m not sure what the hassle is associated with installing Windows 8. I installed it on two of my computers and on one of my daughters computers and I don’t recall any hassles. I did all of this in one day with plenty of time left over. This included showing my daughter and my wife how to use the system with a mouse and keyboard. Although I could take or leave the start screen, they both like it. I’ve got some newer hardware on one of my computers that I had to get drivers for in order to achieve full functionality, and that probably wasted 20 minutes of my life. Every program that had been running in Windows 7 or Vista ran just fine in Windows 8 with the exception of Microsoft outlook. I had to change the POP to IMAP, and that wasted another 15 minutes of my life, but since IMAP is a little more secure it’s probably not really a waste of time. Regardless, if I would have got $1500.00 for the time I spent for all of this it would have been a lot more than I was charging on a per-hour basis for my services as a contractor. It’s to bad people don’t want to spend a little time learning something new. Actually, they’re just a little picky about what they want to learn. Most that are complaining about the time wasted to learn how to navigate Windows 8 probably spent a lot more time getting proficient at texting with their phones, and I’m sure there are several million people that think texting is waste of time. There’s a lot of reasons Windows 8 is on a slow start and probably one of the major reasons is it came up to soon after Windows 7, which is a very good operating system. The fact that Windows 8 is designed for touchscreen operation, I’m sure, is another reason. That should have little to do with a learning curve for most people who have smartphones or tablets, but I suppose it’s different so it’s scary. I don’t see touchscreen use in a desktop environment as catching on unless the monitors can be laid flat on a horizontal surface. Using a touchscreen in a vertical position on a continuous basis will probably result in visits to a doctor for arm and shoulder strains of some sort. You're in luck! Lenovo is releasing a Windows 8 tablet / table device for just that reason. [/quot

[MKZ1945]

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I’m not sure why someone would blow around $70.00 for something they have no intention of using. In regards to Media Center, it’s been around for years and I have to admit that I hardly ever use it. There are so many freeware programs available that do a much better job as a music and/or video player and organizer, and the rest of the fluff associated with Media Center is usless to me. I’m not sure what the hassle is associated with installing Windows 8. I installed it on two of my computers and on one of my daughters computers and I don’t recall any hassles. I did all of this in one day with plenty of time left over. This included showing my daughter and my wife how to use the system with a mouse and keyboard. Although I could take or leave the start screen, they both like it. I’ve got some newer hardware on one of my computers that I had to get drivers for in order to achieve full functionality, and that probably wasted 20 minutes of my life. Every program that had been running in Windows 7 or Vista ran just fine in Windows 8 with the exception of Microsoft outlook. I had to change the POP to IMAP, and that wasted another 15 minutes of my life, but since IMAP is a little more secure it’s probably not really a waste of time. Regardless, if I would have got $1500.00 for the time I spent for all of this it would have been a lot more than I was charging on a per-hour basis for my services as a contractor. It’s to bad people don’t want to spend a little time learning something new. Actually, they’re just a little picky about what they want to learn. Most that are complaining about the time wasted to learn how to navigate Windows 8 probably spent a lot more time getting proficient at texting with their phones, and I’m sure there are several million people that think texting is waste of time. There’s a lot of reasons Windows 8 is on a slow start and probably one of the major reasons is it came up to soon after Windows 7, which is a very good operating system. The fact that Windows 8 is designed for touchscreen operation, I’m sure, is another reason. That should have little to do with a learning curve for most people who have smartphones or tablets, but I suppose it’s different so it’s scary. I don’t see touchscreen use in a desktop environment as catching on unless the monitors can be laid flat on a horizontal surface. Using a touchscreen in a vertical position on a continuous basis will probably result in visits to a doctor for arm and shoulder strains of some sort. You're in luck! Lenovo is releasing a Windows 8 tablet / table device for just that reason.

[MKZ1945]

TO HarleyMeekins (screwed up the reply twice, but – Thanks for the info (You're in luck! Lenovo is releasing a Windows 8 tablet / table device for just that reason). I’m currently running Windows 8 with two 22” monitors and a mouse/keyboard setup on my main system. Not having any issues to this point. I might consider the Lenovo option for my wife, however. She’s slowly using functionality of her right arm and the touchscreen environment might be a better setup for her.

[AsokAsus]

Microsoft could sell 60 million licenses for an operating system called "PoopOnaStick" because they are a monopoly and because their "partners" are forced to buy in bulk just in case they manage to sell any devices running "PoopOnaStock". But said license sales bear no relation to actual number of devices sold, nor how many of said sold devices may have been "downgraded" to an earlier and better OS than "PoopOnaStick". My guess, though, is that after the Windows 8 (aka PoopOnaStick) debacle has come to complete fruition in the next 6 months, vendors won't be quite so eager to buy bulk licenses on Microsoft's next wonder OS, "PoopOnaStick II".

[LiveBrianD]

MKZ1945, on 10 January 2013 - 10:34 AM, said:

TO HarleyMeekins (screwed up the reply twice, but – Thanks for the info (You're in luck! Lenovo is releasing a Windows 8 tablet / table device for just that reason). I’m currently running Windows 8 with two 22” monitors and a mouse/keyboard setup on my main system. Not having any issues to this point. I might consider the Lenovo option for my wife, however. She’s slowly using functionality of her right arm and the touchscreen environment might be a better setup for her.

I doubt a touchscreen would be better because they are terrible, ergonomically. Reaching across the desk to the monitor doesn't help. (on a laptop it looks like a decent option though)

[waldojim]

rexdking, on 09 January 2013 - 10:17 PM, said:

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I'm one of the 80 million, and I wonder how many are like me: I just bought the Win8 Pro upgrade at Amazon, late last night. It's not even been shipped yet. Did that, because of the January 31 deadline, the $67 price was more than I wanted to pay already, but it would go up, later; you get both 64-bit and 32-bit Windows 8 Pro options for that price. But do I plan to use it? No. Asked for my Media Center product key yesterday, MS delivered it today, and so long as I INSTALL the Win8 on a machine, I'll get the Media Center for free. Whoopee. Saving $10 for what will cost me $1,500 in TIME to hassle with on installation and learning curve. That's before I install any added software. So do you think, now that I realize how that $10 savings is no savings at all -- it won't even play your DVDs properly, versus BUYING the thing for the $10 -- do you think I'll actually INSTALL Win8 before January 31, the next-busiest tax day of the year for all employers (when W-2's are due to be mailed)? NO. So how many 'licenses' were purchased with the above or similar reasoning? Bet you many. It's that, or pay $175+ for Win7, or more for Win8 System Builder (which you have to buy in ONLY 32-bit or ONLY 64-bit, $99 at Amazon). Hedge purchases are not deployments. A more realistic measure would be how many Win8 machines are actually USED. Only then will you know its true value. Meanwhile, if you want XP Pro OS now, even the OS upgrade price is as high or higher than Win7's, in Amazon. (LOL some of the vendors are selling the OS retail sealed=new upgrade, for over $400.)

Buying something you are never going to use is not saving any money, you do realize that, dont you? If you are not smart enough to understand that, I certainly am not going to listen to your opinion.

Join the club. There are plenty of us that are ignoring Brainouts opinion...

[JohnUSA]

Sorry I do not believe this Microsoft hype and lies at all.
Windows 8 is disliked by many users and I hated it and will never use it.
I found Windows 8 extremely poorly designed, and very irritating to use.
I hope that the new Windows 9 that Microsoft is rushing to replace the abysmal Windows 8 will be much better designed, otherwise it will be bankruptcy for stupid Microsoft.

[jazzy007]

So, when Windows 7 came out and sold 60 millions under the same situation, including licensing deals with computer manufacturers it wasn't so bad . But now because is Windows 8 and Paul doesn't like it, he does not believe it and make poor comments about it.

Paul, Microsoft does not sell only in USA. It sells around the world. Just because the holiday season, as you mention, wasn't a big sell out, it does not mean that around the world people are buying computers with Windows 8 or upgrading. Only in the good old USA are people drinking the koolaid from Apple. Everywhere else, Apple is doing poorly, against Microsoft, against Android, Samsumg, etc.