compnovo, on 22 January 2013 - 05:45 AM, said:
waldojim, on 22 January 2013 - 03:19 AM, said:
Just too many disappointments with today's PC's.
That's one reason I build my own desktops. Then I have only myself to get mad at.
But lets be honest a moment... In reality there is, what a ~20% performance gain (MAX) clock-for-clock from the Core 2 Quad, and barely a 10~15% gain from the i5 750 if I were to move to Ivy Bridge. Haswell is taking its sweet time coming to market. Add to it that it seems like motherboard manufacturers are removing features (that I care about anyhow) in favor of "but look, you can feed 1.21 jiggawatts to your CPU so you can try desperately to OC to 10Thz on Liquid Oxygen!" How many people really need these features? A small amount of overclocking room makes sense, enough that the average person can hit the limits of water cooling even. The craziness that is the EVGA Z77 FTW for example, is unbelievable! That is a $310 motherboard with 2x 8pin power connections for the CPU. It has a useful 8 internal SATA ports, USB 3.0, firewire, and 4 way SLI support. All expected from a $300+ motherboard. They even went so far as to break out solid caps - also expected from a $300+ board. The audio chipset used supports important things like Dolby Digital live, yet it is not included. Why not include Intel network chipsets? Basically, where are the features that matter?
In other areas, I am concerned that video card performance hasn't really gained proportionally to the price they are asking. Let me ask you guys, on a serious note, compared to the $200 EVGA 8800GT what is there today? There are $400 replacements sure. But what happened to the high value performance parts that got people like us into these rigs? There is also the concern over the games themselves. Why bother with new machines given that the games are 99% console ports? What gain to I get from using a PC instead of my console?
Sorry guys - but I really am having difficulty justifying a $2,000 replacement PC when everything is factored in. I am not sure if anyone else has noticed the same trends... or how much that affects you. But paying $2,000 to get a motherboard with more features that I don't want than DO, a video card that has no purpose, and a CPU that is marginally faster seems like a tragic waste.
The Hasswell chips have a chance of helping though. Intel has released details that sure make Hasswell look tempting. If the Intel Hasswell is nearly as powerful as the data sheets indicate, then it might actually be a real generational change. So, I wait. Unsure of weather or not Intel will pull through. If the best case scenarios play out, and this year does return the gains expected, then I suppose I will go ahead, and move forward into a new machine. This machine will be a complete and total new build. New case, power supply, etc.
So there we are.... get a copy of Windows 8 for a machine that I may not build? And yes, I would get Windows 7 as well. I do still happen to find uses for it from time to time.
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