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[waldojim]

At first I saw the headline and though and yet another person misuses the word "bricked", glad I read the article. Now I am just glad that the machine I have doesn't brick that easy!

[Dekaw]

Classic example of what happens when hardware manufacturers don't give any thought to the idea that someone might want to do something besides default software.

[eemail]

if linux is not uefi ready , its too primitive

[bringthetech]

I have triple booted my Samsung laptop but created the boot menu from my Windows partition with no problem. I did call Samsung before I started partitioning so I could make any bios changes if needed to. I tried from a live USB which it would not boot to until I changed the bios sequence. But best to start from Windows.

I tried reverse order, loading Linux and then Windows but that was a problem. Never once bricked my Samsung laptop. What I do like about Samsung tech support they did not try to discourage partitioning but were very helpful. Dell once told me not to do it they don't support dual booting.

[oldschoolh4ck3r]

Shame on Samsung, for not providing a recovery option.

UEFI's 'Protected Boot'... protecting Microsoft's profits, not your PC. This is what happens when a monopolistic software company colludes with hardware makers to create such a 'feature'. Designing firmware to embed Windows activation keys, instituting a 'Windows key' on all keyboards, crippling the benefits of UEFI with 'protected boot' requiring a signed OS (of which Microsoft clearly has the advantage)... what next? Microsoft has taken the IBM PC compatible standard and tainted it to serve their closed-source, proprietary business model.

I'm interested in learning of hardware designed with open-source in mind, with no Microsoft 'features'.

[waldojim]

eemail, on 01 February 2013 - 03:26 AM, said:

if linux is not uefi ready , its too primitive

Based on Samsung products being screwed up? If this effected more laptops on a regular basis, you would have a point. As it is, you sound retarded, pointing fingers at the wrong people.

[waldojim]

oldschoolh4ck3r, on 01 February 2013 - 11:58 PM, said:

Shame on Samsung, for not providing a recovery option.

UEFI's 'Protected Boot'... protecting Microsoft's profits, not your PC. This is what happens when a monopolistic software company colludes with hardware makers to create such a 'feature'. Designing firmware to embed Windows activation keys, instituting a 'Windows key' on all keyboards, crippling the benefits of UEFI with 'protected boot' requiring a signed OS (of which Microsoft clearly has the advantage)... what next? Microsoft has taken the IBM PC compatible standard and tainted it to serve their closed-source, proprietary business model.

I'm interested in learning of hardware designed with open-source in mind, with no Microsoft 'features'.

Secure boot isnt the problem. Care to try again?

[bringthetech]

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Shame on Samsung, for not providing a recovery option. UEFI's 'Protected Boot'... protecting Microsoft's profits, not your PC. This is what happens when a monopolistic software company colludes with hardware makers to create such a 'feature'. Designing firmware to embed Windows activation keys, instituting a 'Windows key' on all keyboards, crippling the benefits of UEFI with 'protected boot' requiring a signed OS (of which Microsoft clearly has the advantage)... what next? Microsoft has taken the IBM PC compatible standard and tainted it to serve their closed-source, proprietary business model. I'm interested in learning of hardware designed with open-source in mind, with no Microsoft 'features'.

They do come with recovery option. However these greedy American companies (MS, now Google--Jellybean was loaded with trackers from Google--playstore, maps, youtube, gmail & general account settings) are taking cues from Apple trying to lock users into their ecosystems. Thank goodness for developers, hackers and techies. We can always find a work-around. Bricked a phone & tablet but never bricked a laptop. That would be stunning.

[bringthetech]

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Classic example of what happens when hardware manufacturers don't give any thought to the idea that someone might want to do something besides default software.

That's not the case with Samsung. You can call tech support and tell them what evasive measures you want to take and they will help you achieve it. These people should have called tech support first. They are English speaking, Americans, located in the US, also consumers and they get some don't want the out-the-box experience.