[Elgiganten]

Hello everyone!

I need some advice on what PC to buy, because I don't understand much of a PC's specifications. I'm going to mainly use it for games, movies etc. So I want a good and a fast PC. Here's the ones I consider buying, but I don't know which one.

So please, can you please read through the specifications. I have compared them all three there:

http://www.elgigante...re-elgigantenDK


You can press on the green button "Marker forskellene" and it will highlight the differences. I don't think you really need to understand Danish, as it is mostly numbers.

Which one should I go for, to play quality games and movies on great settings. Intel Core or AMD? Which one of the PCs has the greatest graphic card - NVIDIA GeForce or AMD Radeon? Can any of those PCs run games like Battlefield 3, Max Payne 3 etc on highest settings?

Please help out. I really hope to get some good advices.

Thank you.

This post has been edited by Elgiganten: 04 February 2013 - 08:36 AM

[waldojim]

The brand names on the video cards don't mean much. The Nvidia 620 is very entry level (read slow) in the video card world. The AMD 7570 is an upper end entry level card. You don't really get into gaming level cards until you get to the AMD 7770 or Nvidia 650. As it stands though, of the machines you listed, I would personally go for the i5 with the AMD 7570. That one will be the best all around performer.

To answer your last question, about running those games at their highest settings: That will entirely depend on resolution. If you are running a 720P display (1366x768) then possibly. Anything higher, such as a 1920x1080 (1080P) display, then no, not a chance.

This post has been edited by waldojim: 04 February 2013 - 09:47 AM

[Elgiganten]

Hey. Thank you for your answer.

I have decided not to go for the third one, as it is expensive. I'm not really a hardcore gamer (as some would say), just an average gamer that would like to play once in a while. I don't need to have maxed out the setings. I could be running on low settings for all I care. But I want a smooth PC with a great performance and it should be fast.

I should be able to play those games, maybe not on highest, but medium would definitely do.

So now my choice is either the first PC or the second one.

The first one has a 3rd generation CPU, the second one has 2nd. Does it matter much?

What is CPU Cache? Seems like the second one is a bit lower on that. But would it matter, since the second one has a RAM of 12gb?

What about the RAM speed (MHZ). Would I be able to feel any difference?

The graphic card - which is better NVIDIA GeForce GT620 or AMD Radeon HD 7470?

The processor - which is better: Intel Core i5 or AMD A10 Vision? Would it be the latter one, since it has 4 CPU's and the other one has 2? I heard that i5 should be better though?

I'm sorry for all these questions, but I don't know a lot on this subject. Thank you for your help and I hope you can answer all my silly questions!

This post has been edited by Elgiganten: 04 February 2013 - 10:19 AM

[LiveBrianD]

The A10 is really 2 modules (basically cores) that have 2 integer processors each. It's comparable to an i3 on the CPU side, but has good enough graphics if you only occasionally game. In your case though, an i5 and discrete GPU might be better.

[Elgiganten]

Hey!

I think I might go ahead and buy this, as I've been told that this is much better, and cheaper:

http://www.komplett.....aspx?sku=10746

You can view the specifications bottom of the page.

What do you think? Is it much better than the ones I suggested above?

[waldojim]

The video card is better, but that cost savings came in the form of a VERY inferior processor. The i5 is leaps and bounds faster than that AMD A4.

[waldojim]

Elgiganten, on 04 February 2013 - 10:18 AM, said:

Hey. Thank you for your answer.

I have decided not to go for the third one, as it is expensive. I'm not really a hardcore gamer (as some would say), just an average gamer that would like to play once in a while. I don't need to have maxed out the setings. I could be running on low settings for all I care. But I want a smooth PC with a great performance and it should be fast.

I should be able to play those games, maybe not on highest, but medium would definitely do.

So now my choice is either the first PC or the second one.

The first one has a 3rd generation CPU, the second one has 2nd. Does it matter much?

What is CPU Cache? Seems like the second one is a bit lower on that. But would it matter, since the second one has a RAM of 12gb?

What about the RAM speed (MHZ). Would I be able to feel any difference?

The graphic card - which is better NVIDIA GeForce GT620 or AMD Radeon HD 7470?

The processor - which is better: Intel Core i5 or AMD A10 Vision? Would it be the latter one, since it has 4 CPU's and the other one has 2? I heard that i5 should be better though?

I'm sorry for all these questions, but I don't know a lot on this subject. Thank you for your help and I hope you can answer all my silly questions!

The 2nd and 3rd gen Intel chips perform very similarly. The 3rd gen reduced power consumption through a new design. The 7470 will be a tad quicker than a GT620, but there won't be much difference.

Ram speed does make a difference, but generally anything over 8GB won't. Get 8GB of ram at faster speeds for a quicker system over all. These days, unless you are looking at the cheapest of the cheap machines, go Intel every time.

[Elgiganten]

waldojim, on 04 February 2013 - 01:32 PM, said:

The video card is better, but that cost savings came in the form of a VERY inferior processor. The i5 is leaps and bounds faster than that AMD A4.

Hey! Thanks for your reply. I had a friend to check and he said this would do the job:

http://gyazo.com/527...6eb762bd56e.png

What do you think?

[LiveBrianD]

Bulldozer really isn't a good option - go for the i5.

[waldojim]

Elgiganten, on 04 February 2013 - 03:19 PM, said:

waldojim, on 04 February 2013 - 01:32 PM, said:

The video card is better, but that cost savings came in the form of a VERY inferior processor. The i5 is leaps and bounds faster than that AMD A4.

Hey! Thanks for your reply. I had a friend to check and he said this would do the job:

http://gyazo.com/527...6eb762bd56e.png

What do you think?

For this class of machine, go Intel. The A8 technically can do the work, it just won't do as well.

If you can convince that company to set you up with an i5, and a 7770 or 7850, then go for it.

[Elgiganten]

I've been told I can't go for the i5, since it is an "amd box". Don't know what that means, so I think I'll have to go with the bulldozer.

Waldojim, do you mean I should lower my graphic card? Why so?

[LiveBrianD]

Those CPUs need different motherboards, so look for another model of machine.

[waldojim]

Elgiganten, on 05 February 2013 - 04:13 AM, said:

I've been told I can't go for the i5, since it is an "amd box". Don't know what that means, so I think I'll have to go with the bulldozer.

Waldojim, do you mean I should lower my graphic card? Why so?

What I am suggesting, is look for a more balanced machine. A machine with a big, powerful video card and a slow CPU will end up in a generally slow machine. A machine with a powerful CPU and slow video card will generally be a poor gamer. A strong balance is best. With an i5, and a 7770 - 7870, you get a fast machine overall with enough power to play games.