[RobbinHood]

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So when might I expect to see foot pedals, elbow pads and optical sensors so I can learn to blink an eye or even nod my head (oops, I was NOT falling asleep).

When developed, this new technology might have a big impact on the music industry, even medical! I can just hear clearly that latest song "The Computer Twist and Moan." AKA; take that dear back -or- Why has my arm grown 3 feet longer?

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mal68, on 04 February 2013 - 12:15 PM, said:

I'll wait for another year or five

Still running on XP

My work uses 32 bit programs which mean that for my company, Windows 8 is just bloatware.

And since I need to access my work from my home pc, that's staying with XP as well.

2007, Windows VIsta, the greatest thing since sliced bread.

2009, Introducing Windows 7, the greatest thing since sliced bread.

2012 Introducing Windows 8 the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Yeah, I'll wait.

Golly, all the XP Professional OS retail packages are now sold out, in Amazon. Many of them were going for $300. You can still get a System Builder OEM version for between $80-$150. So the four I purchased (two retail @$150, plus @$125, two generic System Builder not OEM), were good investments.

Compared with, my two purchased Win8 Pro upgrade licenses (two DVDs each, 32-bit and 664-bit, again retail), yet unopened. Oh, its Prime price just went up to $125 in Amazon, versus the $67 I paid. LOL, one dingdong is selling it for $399. Maybe a typo?

This post has been edited by brainout: 04 February 2013 - 03:49 PM

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StygianAgenda, on 04 February 2013 - 01:58 PM, said:

Now, the corner menu contact zone on the start screen could be a bit larger or more consistently sensitive, but... it could just be skin-oils building up on my stylus, from switching back and forth between using that and using my bare fingers. Either way, it seems that the slide-out menu (right side) should consistently respond from the corner, as stated in the initial mini-training the OS gives you while it sets up for the first time. However, I've noticed that on my screen, I need to perform the gesture either about a centimeter above the bottom corner, or a centimeter below the top corner, in spite of the fact that response from those zones of the screen are otherwise responsive in all other applications (which is what tells me it's an issue with the target zone for the gesture not being as sensitive as it should be).

Multiply that little problem of skin oils by millions of employees, and you have a business at a standstill. The maid service people, will cheer.

What dingdong would think that finger gestures on screens belong in the workplace? They cause unending problems as it is, in kiosks. The kiosks HAVE to be finger-enabled, i.e., at a Bank of America ATM, but the usage is limited. Someone then cleans the kiosk regularly. Same in the fast-food order or cash registers. Limited function, point at a food. But for a multipurpose machine like a computer, the fingering will quickly slow down operations.

Brains aren't working, at MS.

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AsokAsus, on 04 February 2013 - 03:05 PM, said:

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As of this weekend I am now ALL WINDOWS - New W8 Phone (Nokia), Surface and Laptop and I am LOVING IT! Way to go Microsoft!

Too funny paid MicroShill marketing dude or dudette. Let me pre-post the the rest if your taking-points right now so you don't have to go to the trouble of cutting and pasting them from the MicroShill Talking-Points Web Site:

1. Anyone who says they don't like Windows 8 has never used it.

2. Anyone who doesn't like Windows 8 is stupid.

3. Anyone who doesn't like Windows 8 is "afraid" of change.

4. I've upgraded my 8 year old laptop that has 1 GB ram and 80 GB HD with Windows 8 and it runs 10 times faster than with XP.

5. I bought a Windows 8/Window RT device for each and every member of my family and they ALL simply LOVE it!

6. Windows 8 is EXACTLY like Windows 7, only better!

7. Metro UI is REALLY the same as the Start Menu.

8. Poor acceptance of the Windows 8/Windows RT/Metro UI is all the fault of the "Apple Fanboi" and "Windows 8 hater" writers and blog posters. Their negative comments are what have caused the average non-technical consumer who never reads these web sites in the first place to stay away from Windows 8 in droves. If only the "press" had given Windows 8 a "fair" shake, it would have been a roaring success (even though the public doesn't read the tecnical press in the first place).

9. I'm a business consultant and ALL of my business clients have been clammering for Windows 8 and they ALL just love it when I install it and they now realized how much FUN computing can be!

10. I'm in IT and NONE of the employees have trouble learning Windows 8, and they LOVE it!

[MusabNashi]

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using the 'pinch' functions on the touchscreen which saves a ton of time and effort. I imagine programs like Photoshop will have similar functionality which will be the real benefit. It feels like a real pain now to have to go all the way down to the scroll bar and move that around to do the same stuff. I use Photoshop with a new Wacom Intuous 5 tablet, which supports touch gestures on the same surface the pen is used on. It's cool at first, but honestly, pinch zooming and panning is less efficient than traditional keyboard shortcuts + mouse/pen input: To pinch zoom, I need to put my pen down or use awkward finger combinations to both hold the pen and perform the gesture. If I put the pen down, I then need to pick it back up and return to my position on the tablet. Panning with a gesture (a 3 finger drag) doesn't require putting the pen down, and it's not difficult, but at the same time, it's not necessarily easier than simply holding down the space bar and dragging with the pen. In both cases, performing these gestures on an actual monitor definitely requires putting the pen/mouse down, and no one who actually needs to be productive is going to choose that over simply holding down 1 or 2 keys on a keyboard or a programmed key combination on a tablet button. It's JUST. NOT. EFFICIENT. It just isn't. Furthermore, these carry the inherent problem of touch screens that no one has yet satisfactorily addressed - that of getting finger prints all over the same screen you need to look at. Anyone doing real photo work relies on their monitor to provide a clear view of the image being worked on. Finger prints, to say nothing of wear and tear, are a non-starter. All these people saying touch input will be great for graphics work... have never don't any serious graphics work. Touch input has it's place, but there are many instances where it is absolutely, and simply, not as efficient as mouse/pen/keyboard input, and it's both difficult and frustrating to understand why so many people ignore and argue against this.

If you do not like touch use a mouse dah!
I have windows 8 and use mouse for work and touch for fun.

[max999]

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As of this weekend I am now ALL WINDOWS - New W8 Phone (Nokia), Surface and Laptop and I am LOVING IT! Way to go Microsoft!

AsokAsus said

Too funny paid MicroShill marketing dude or dudette. Let me pre-post the the rest if your taking-points right now so you don't have to go to the trouble of cutting and pasting them from the MicroShill Talking-Points Web Site: 1. Anyone who says they don't like Windows 8 has never used it. 2. Anyone who doesn't like Windows 8 is stupid. 3. Anyone who doesn't like Windows 8 is "afraid" of change. 4. I've upgraded my 8 year old laptop that has 1 GB ram and 80 GB HD with Windows 8 and it runs 10 times faster than with XP. 5. I bought a Windows 8/Window RT device for each and every member of my family and they ALL simply LOVE it! 6. Windows 8 is EXACTLY like Windows 7, only better! 7. Metro UI is REALLY the same as the Start Menu. 8. Poor acceptance of the Windows 8/Windows RT/Metro UI is all the fault of the "Apple Fanboi" and "Windows 8 hater" writers and blog posters. Their negative comments are what have caused the average non-technical consumer who never reads these web sites in the first place to stay away from Windows 8 in droves. If only the "press" had given Windows 8 a "fair" shake, it would have been a roaring success (even though the public doesn't read the tecnical press in the first place). 9. I'm a business consultant and ALL of my business clients have been clammering for Windows 8 and they ALL just love it when I install it and they now realized how much FUN computing can be! 10. I'm in IT and NONE of the employees have trouble learning Windows 8, and they LOVE it!

11. You must be old!

12. My 75 year old mother and my 5 year old are running Win8 no problem.

13. You are a troll!


LOL! You nailed it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[karthiq]

Its MS two pronged strategy. For people who want their OS traditional style it is still continuing win7, and for those who want something different it has introduced win8.

[Xach]

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Been a Microsoft user for many, many years. Windows 3.1 and before. This latest OS upgrade (Windows 8) has actually made me decide that my next computer will be a MAC. Time to say goodbye to Microsoft.

I can't even imagine going to mac. Windows would have to do something really bad for me to want to spend that kind of money on a computer from Mac. I mean maybe if windows 8 made it so that all the keys were different on my keyboard and im not talking just in different locations im talking if I hit the t key s would show up. Maybe, just maybe, I would think of a Mac. And even then I would probably get Linux.

[Xach]

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As of this weekend I am now ALL WINDOWS - New W8 Phone (Nokia), Surface and Laptop and I am LOVING IT! Way to go Microsoft! Too funny paid MicroShill marketing dude or dudette. Let me pre-post the the rest if your taking-points right now so you don't have to go to the trouble of cutting and pasting them from the MicroShill Talking-Points Web Site: 1. Anyone who says they don't like Windows 8 has never used it. 2. Anyone who doesn't like Windows 8 is stupid. 3. Anyone who doesn't like Windows 8 is "afraid" of change. 4. I've upgraded my 8 year old laptop that has 1 GB ram and 80 GB HD with Windows 8 and it runs 10 times faster than with XP. 5. I bought a Windows 8/Window RT device for each and every member of my family and they ALL simply LOVE it! 6. Windows 8 is EXACTLY like Windows 7, only better! 7. Metro UI is REALLY the same as the Start Menu. 8. Poor acceptance of the Windows 8/Windows RT/Metro UI is all the fault of the "Apple Fanboi" and "Windows 8 hater" writers and blog posters. Their negative comments are what have caused the average non-technical consumer who never reads these web sites in the first place to stay away from Windows 8 in droves. If only the "press" had given Windows 8 a "fair" shake, it would have been a roaring success (even though the public doesn't read the tecnical press in the first place). 9. I'm a business consultant and ALL of my business clients have been clammering for Windows 8 and they ALL just love it when I install it and they now realized how much FUN computing can be!

The problem is Asus that you are on every available forum commenting this stuff a lot of it was all Cut and Paste stuff you just threw on the comments section. your no the only one who does this and im glade, now, you are posting stuff that looks like you may have typed it yourself, but you have already lost a lot of credit in our eyes.

Best thing for you is to just take your comments and your cut and pastes to Preston's computerworld blog. It will feel like home to you.

[pallentx]

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Now we straddle technology again, using keyboard, mouse, touchpad AND touch-screen - all together! So when might I expect to see foot pedals, elbow pads and optical sensors so I can learn to blink an eye or even nod my head (oops, I was NOT falling asleep). This rant specifically does not address the issue of do I want to be seen while keying, mousing and touching simultaneously? Nor the distance or arm-fatigue from reaching my display screen - possibly hours on end. Enough - we CAN settle into a routine user interface that suits all >>> if MS would equip a good & adjustable UI with each release .....

Its not so hard. Windows 8 adds options to address new hardware. When they tried the Tablet PC back in 2000-2001, I loved the idea, but because quickly frustrated trying to use a PC slate without pen or touch scrolling and trying to hit tiny buttons in the UI that were designed for a mouse pointer.

So, you're at a desktop and dont want to reach up and touch the screen? Fine, dont - your trusty mouse is right there and does everything it used to do. BUT, if you have one of these new-fangdangled tablets, you might find the new touch support very handy.

[WilliamTetzeli]

14. You mean someone actually has to CREATE all this stuff we watch and listen to?
15. You're a grown-up! Go away!
16. Microsoft is better, that's why they're dancing to Apple's tune!
17. If you can't show your midriff in public, your opinion's worthless!

[AsokAsus]

"On the very first day, virtually everyone launches an app from the Start screen, finds the desktop, and finds the charms."

You know, that's pretty much like saying that after someone buys a new car, that almost everyone managed to get it started, find the brake and accelerator pedals, and figure out where the steering wheel is, though perhaps not necessarily how it works. Would Honda, for example, declare victory with results like that for such a new car model?

[AsokAsus]

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The problem is Asus that you are on every available forum commenting this stuff a lot of it was all Cut and Paste stuff you just threw on the comments section. your no the only one who does this and im glade, now, you are posting stuff that looks like you may have typed it yourself, but you have already lost a lot of credit in our eyes. Best thing for you is to just take your comments and your cut and pastes to Preston's computerworld blog. It will feel like home to you.

Thanks. That's a new one I can add to my list of MicroTroll comments.

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Xach, on 05 February 2013 - 04:44 AM, said:

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As of this weekend I am now ALL WINDOWS - New W8 Phone (Nokia), Surface and Laptop and I am LOVING IT! Way to go Microsoft! Too funny paid MicroShill marketing dude or dudette. Let me pre-post the the rest if your taking-points right now so you don't have to go to the trouble of cutting and pasting them from the MicroShill Talking-Points Web Site: 1. Anyone who says they don't like Windows 8 has never used it. 2. Anyone who doesn't like Windows 8 is stupid. 3. Anyone who doesn't like Windows 8 is "afraid" of change. 4. I've upgraded my 8 year old laptop that has 1 GB ram and 80 GB HD with Windows 8 and it runs 10 times faster than with XP. 5. I bought a Windows 8/Window RT device for each and every member of my family and they ALL simply LOVE it! 6. Windows 8 is EXACTLY like Windows 7, only better! 7. Metro UI is REALLY the same as the Start Menu. 8. Poor acceptance of the Windows 8/Windows RT/Metro UI is all the fault of the "Apple Fanboi" and "Windows 8 hater" writers and blog posters. Their negative comments are what have caused the average non-technical consumer who never reads these web sites in the first place to stay away from Windows 8 in droves. If only the "press" had given Windows 8 a "fair" shake, it would have been a roaring success (even though the public doesn't read the tecnical press in the first place). 9. I'm a business consultant and ALL of my business clients have been clammering for Windows 8 and they ALL just love it when I install it and they now realized how much FUN computing can be!

The problem is Asus that you are on every available forum commenting this stuff a lot of it was all Cut and Paste stuff you just threw on the comments section. your no the only one who does this and im glade, now, you are posting stuff that looks like you may have typed it yourself, but you have already lost a lot of credit in our eyes.

Best thing for you is to just take your comments and your cut and pastes to Preston's computerworld blog. It will feel like home to you.

So then you have to be on every available forum, to make your comment. So when will you improve your spelling?

[iwade]

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