[PCWorld]

Post your comments for Microsoft's Surface Pro goes on sale Saturday here

[ColoKaren]

"The tablet has a 10.6-inch screen and includes the Type Cover keyboard dock that doubles as a case."

You mean the type cover is available as an option, for an additional $129, correct?

[SteveBlackwellequ8]

I believe that the Surface RT/Pro will fail miserably. It may take a year for MS to admit it but like everything else Steve Ballmer has tried during his tenure, it will fail. I find it amazing that a company with so many bright people can miss the mark so often with so may products. If it were not for MS office's dominance and the fact that most new computers ship with Windows 7/8, whether you like it or not, MS would be in big trouble. Ballmer should have been given the boot years ago. The guy's a bafoon.
For those that haven't seen the YouTube video of MS's debut of the Surface just search for "Surface crash during debut". The complete failure of Steven Sinofsky's presentation convinced me that MS has not changed one bit from the company that gave us Windows ME, Bob, Vista, Zune, Windows Live, IE6, and now possibly the worst blunder in company history; Windows 8.
I have been using MS product since the mid 80s (DOS 3.2, Windows 2.03 on a x286), through to about 2010. I finally decided to change the entire house over to Apple product in 2009 (desktops, laptops, iPhones, iPads, Apple TV, etc) as I do not believe that Microsoft have what it takes to keep up with the likes of Apple and Google. Best decision I ever made.

[LeathMuller]

So, let me guess this right... as this is like the 4th time I have read the same drivel from you on different sites...

You swapped in 2009 to a full Apple household... even though things like the iPad hadn't come out yet, Apple TV was in it's first generation (and was rubbish, the second generation was much better), iPhone was still on iPhone 3 AND you moved to all Macintosh computers... because Microsoft "can't keep up".

If you're going to lie, at least be good at it. You love Apple, that's fine, but please don't try and sound like a MS expert.

For every failure you mention, I can give you two example of failed Apple ones. Or Google ones. It's a piece of life and called "innovating". Some things work, some don't.

And honestly, if you're going to keep going on about the Surface crash, you should at least mention the network failure of the iPhone 4 that Jobs had on stage... no? Or maybe the time Jobs couldn't get something working on stage so threw the item at a person in the audience...?

Look, everywhere I go I see your bashing and whining the Surface will be a fail because of the Surface crash... but never mention the same Apple ones. Even Steve Jobs admitted crashes are a common part of presentations... you however don't seem to get it at all.

You need to pull your head in and take your arguments to an Apple site where maybe someone cared.

[sventura137]

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So, let me guess this right... as this is like the 4th time I have read the same drivel from you on different sites... You swapped in 2009 to a full Apple household... even though things like the iPad hadn't come out yet, Apple TV was in it's first generation (and was rubbish, the second generation was much better), iPhone was still on iPhone 3 AND you moved to all Macintosh computers... because Microsoft "can't keep up". If you're going to lie, at least be good at it. You love Apple, that's fine, but please don't try and sound like a MS expert. For every failure you mention, I can give you two example of failed Apple ones. Or Google ones. It's a piece of life and called "innovating". Some things work, some don't. And honestly, if you're going to keep going on about the Surface crash, you should at least mention the network failure of the iPhone 4 that Jobs had on stage... no? Or maybe the time Jobs couldn't get something working on stage so threw the item at a person in the audience...? Look, everywhere I go I see your bashing and whining the Surface will be a fail because of the Surface crash... but never mention the same Apple ones. Even Steve Jobs admitted crashes are a common part of presentations... you however don't seem to get it at all. You need to pull your head in and take your arguments to an Apple site where maybe someone cared.

Can you please provide reasons into why you believe this? Also, have you ever used a Microsoft brand system before? I would think not being that the surface products are the first. Then we may argue over this

[SteveBlackwellequ8]

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So, let me guess this right... as this is like the 4th time I have read the same drivel from you on different sites... You swapped in 2009 to a full Apple household... even though things like the iPad hadn't come out yet, Apple TV was in it's first generation (and was rubbish, the second generation was much better), iPhone was still on iPhone 3 AND you moved to all Macintosh computers... because Microsoft "can't keep up". If you're going to lie, at least be good at it. You love Apple, that's fine, but please don't try and sound like a MS expert. For every failure you mention, I can give you two example of failed Apple ones. Or Google ones. It's a piece of life and called "innovating". Some things work, some don't. And honestly, if you're going to keep going on about the Surface crash, you should at least mention the network failure of the iPhone 4 that Jobs had on stage... no? Or maybe the time Jobs couldn't get something working on stage so threw the item at a person in the audience...? Look, everywhere I go I see your bashing and whining the Surface will be a fail because of the Surface crash... but never mention the same Apple ones. Even Steve Jobs admitted crashes are a common part of presentations... you however don't seem to get it at all. You need to pull your head in and take your arguments to an Apple site where maybe someone cared.

Well first off, you seem to be taking my comments way too personally. Have you appointed yourself the defender of Microsoft? Secondly, and not that I need to justify anything to the likes of you, I stated that: “I finally decided to change the entire house over to Apple product in 2009”. Meaning that in 2009 I made the decision. I did not state that I purchased an iPad in 2009 or an Apple TV. Maybe that rage is clouding your vision lol?
Also, all the MS failures I mentioned were in the last 10-12 years, so in that time period can you please give me this 2 for 1 failures by Apple you mentioned? I think not. And having suffered through almost 30 years of Microsoft products, yes I can say that I am an expert.
Lastly, and this is too good to pass up, you mentioned “innovating” as it relates the Surface. That is just laughable. Microsoft changed their whole business model to copy what can only be viewed as a pale version of Apple with Store fronts, App store, phones, and tablets, etc., and you say this is innovation by MS. You’re delusional. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

[neufsky]

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I believe that the Surface RT/Pro will fail miserably. It may take a year for MS to admit it but like everything else Steve Ballmer has tried during his tenure, it will fail.

I finally decided to change the entire house over to Apple product in 2009 (desktops, laptops, iPhones, iPads, Apple TV, etc) as I do not believe that Microsoft have what it takes to keep up with the likes of Apple and Google. Best decision I ever made.

Do you have a crystal ball or something? you can predict the future? oh my...

[TexasDeano]

I don't know why people keep saying this went on sale today, because it didn't. You can't order the 128 GB version from Best Buy, Staples, or even Microsoft. And you can't go to any of them and buy it in person either. It is nowhere to be found.

Good job Microsoft. You finally built a piece of hardware people actually want and yet they can't buy it.

[GCustom]

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I don't know why people keep saying this went on sale today, because it didn't. You can't order the 128 GB version from Best Buy, Staples, or even Microsoft. And you can't go to any of them and buy it in person either. It is nowhere to be found. Good job Microsoft. You finally built a piece of hardware people actually want and yet they can't buy it.

I'm typing this up on my Surface Pro 128gb right now, bought it at Best Buy this morning, last one in stock. Had to get my blue touch cover from another Best Buy, also grabbed a type cover from the store with the unit.

[andray]

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I believe that the Surface RT/Pro will fail miserably. It may take a year for MS to admit it but like everything else Steve Ballmer has tried during his tenure, it will fail. I find it amazing that a company with so many bright people can miss the mark so often with so may products. If it were not for MS office's dominance and the fact that most new computers ship with Windows 7/8, whether you like it or not, MS would be in big trouble. Ballmer should have been given the boot years ago. The guy's a bafoon. For those that haven't seen the YouTube video of MS's debut of the Surface just search for "Surface crash during debut". The complete failure of Steven Sinofsky's presentation convinced me that MS has not changed one bit from the company that gave us Windows ME, Bob, Vista, Zune, Windows Live, IE6, and now possibly the worst blunder in company history; Windows 8. I have been using MS product since the mid 80s (DOS 3.2, Windows 2.03 on a x286), through to about 2010. I finally decided to change the entire house over to Apple product in 2009 (desktops, laptops, iPhones, iPads, Apple TV, etc) as I do not believe that Microsoft have what it takes to keep up with the likes of Apple and Google. Best decision I ever made.

This guy needs to chill out. Where would we be today with out microsoft.

[pmallen100]

I've upgraded to Win 8 on 3 of my 5 machines. While it still has some bugs and rough edges, I'm impressed with it. I'd love to have a Surface Pro. If the price was $400, I'd be the first in line to buy one, but at $900 ... No thanks. I'll manage to get along just fine without one.

[Rsinist]

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I believe that the Surface RT/Pro will fail miserably. It may take a year for MS to admit it but like everything else Steve Ballmer has tried during his tenure, it will fail. I find it amazing that a company with so many bright people can miss the mark so often with so may products. If it were not for MS office's dominance and the fact that most new computers ship with Windows 7/8, whether you like it or not, MS would be in big trouble. Ballmer should have been given the boot years ago. The guy's a bafoon. For those that haven't seen the YouTube video of MS's debut of the Surface just search for "Surface crash during debut". The complete failure of Steven Sinofsky's presentation convinced me that MS has not changed one bit from the company that gave us Windows ME, Bob, Vista, Zune, Windows Live, IE6, and now possibly the worst blunder in company history; Windows 8. I have been using MS product since the mid 80s (DOS 3.2, Windows 2.03 on a x286), through to about 2010. I finally decided to change the entire house over to Apple product in 2009 (desktops, laptops, iPhones, iPads, Apple TV, etc) as I do not believe that Microsoft have what it takes to keep up with the likes of Apple and Google. Best decision I ever made.

[Rsinist]

I really dont think it will fail .maybe the rt but definatley not the pro .compared to the ipad , just the fact you have a external usb port and hdmi out to use with a whole range of product ie: usb flash , external printers/dvd writers, and the list goes on . Not just stuck with internal storage . Not to mention processing power wich will blow the ipad out the water . MICROSOFT TAKE MY MONEY , I WANT ONE NOW !!!

[Allibyx]

SteveBlackwellequ8 said:

I believe that the Surface RT/Pro will fail miserably. It may take a year for MS to admit it but like everything else Steve Ballmer has tried during his tenure, it will fail. I find it amazing that a company with so many bright people can miss the mark so often with so may products. If it were not for MS office's dominance and the fact that most new computers ship with Windows 7/8, whether you like it or not, MS would be in big trouble. Ballmer should have been given the boot years ago. The guy's a bafoon. For those that haven't seen the YouTube video of MS's debut of the Surface just search for "Surface crash during debut". The complete failure of Steven Sinofsky's presentation convinced me that MS has not changed one bit from the company that gave us Windows ME, Bob, Vista, Zune, Windows Live, IE6, and now possibly the worst blunder in company history; Windows 8. I have been using MS product since the mid 80s (DOS 3.2, Windows 2.03 on a x286), through to about 2010. I finally decided to change the entire house over to Apple product in 2009 (desktops, laptops, iPhones, iPads, Apple TV, etc) as I do not believe that Microsoft have what it takes to keep up with the likes of Apple and Google. Best decision I ever made.

Everything you talked about says nothing about the actual potential of this technology, just anecdotal opinion based on image/delivery/marketing. Bill Gates was actually a huge proponent of this type of technology, so just because he's not around it doesn't mean that everything Microsoft does is under full influence and dictatorship of Ballmer.

On the other hand, it's great you found a company that covered all your needs, enough to fully subscribe to it. I would gladly give one of their tablets a go if they were to embrace digitizer technology (and no, the crayon looking stick is no way near it). I've heard many people try to throw in the Macbook Air as competition, but no matter how thin Apple manages to make it, it's never going to be thin enough to compare with the 6 notebooks I don't have to carry to school every day (let alone having every past semester's notebooks just a few clicks away at any time) because of this technology. After several months of using this technology I still find it amazing to find myself sharing tables with other students buried in paperwork and fumbling in their bags for notes they might have lost, while I occupy a tiny corner of the desk and get the job done in half the time.

Apple's days of being the underdog are over, which means that they need to not get too overconfident and continue evolving, otherwise they'll find themselves subjected to the same kind of anecdotal hatred as people who are practical go elsewhere as better options arise. There's only so much they can milk their iPhone cash cow by changing its size. What's next? A jumbo iPad?

Now, to be fair, I accept the possibility that this technology will fail. But if it does, it will be because of the public's misunderstanding of it. I personally lost track of how many times I've encountered people who think all tablets are iPads and share the same limitations. It happens every day when people choose an iPad over a $500 ATIV 500T that serves as a tablet, laptop, desktop replacement, pen and paper. But i'm not complaining. I kind of enjoy the advantage over them.

Cheers.