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#21 User is offline   WinTard 

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 11:32 PM

View Postartzy65, on 17 February 2013 - 06:23 PM, said:

{Snipped due to limitation on nested comments @ PC World - WinTard}

View PostWinTard, on 16 February 2013 - 09:11 PM, said:

View Postdon16140, on 16 February 2013 - 09:18 AM, said:

AFTER USING WINDOWS 10 YEARS, WINDOWS 8 IS THE LAST STRAW. I'VE SWITCHED TO MAC AND LINUX AND WISHED I HAD DONE IT SOONER. CORPORATE GREED TO PINCH EVERY PENNY OF PROFIT FOR CEO'S AND THE LIKE AT THE EXPENSE OF CONSUMERS. WINDOZ 8 IS ONE OS THAT YOU WON'T SHOVE DOWN MY THROAT MICRO$OFT. FOR THOSE WHO LIKE WINDOZ 8, GOOD FOR YOU...FREEDOM OF CHOICE. I'M GLAD I HAVE MY CHOICE WITH MAC AND LINUX, NO CRASHES, NO NEED FOR ANTI VIRUS, MORE SECURE AND LESS TIME TO MAINTAIN MY COMPUTER.


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Here we go again! More FUD & BS from Microsoft haters and bashers.

:wacko: What's up with the ALL CAPS? Be careful, or you might be viewed as a RETARD, just like me? :ph34r:

Don't you know about the Internet Etiquette after 10 years? Geez! Some are sure slow learners...

No crashes you say? Hm.

It says otherwise right here:

Searching Bing for key sequence consistently crash OSX reveals:
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What only 705,000 results?

Searching Google for key sequence consistently crash OSX reveals:
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Ah, that's more like it, 45,100,000 results confirming this oddity useful feature of OS X, 10.8.2 + all the latest updates, of course.

Relax! And have a nice day!
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Even bird heads can be happy and serene. Why all the angst? Everybody is cuter when happy!


PS: Do try that {hold down the shift key} and File:/// just for fun! Isn't it cool to be able to crash the entire OS X (the latest) with this simple 'magical-oh-wow-revolutionary' key combination?

Yet another Apple first! Aren't you curious? My good buddies in OS X assure me of the authenticity of this magical key sequence, which works on 99.99% in all applications under OS X.

PPS: Please explain the built-in antivirus in OS X?

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{Reformatted for clarity artzy65 post and working around the nested quotes limitations -WinTard}

You're picking on someone who isn't really tech-savvy. I don't know why you would waste your time like that. The 'uppercase' guy is relying on his own experience; he's pumped because he finds the change to OS X refreshing. One doesn't have to attack non-savvy users.

Aside from that, this is pretty interesting re that keyboarding issue http://osxdaily.com/...-apps-mac-os-x/
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Is merely dispelling FUD with actual facts picking on someone? Did I state anything untrue? Did I start it? How would you go on about dispelling fallacies? And didn't you appreciate the subtle sarcasm?

I find it refreshing artzy65, that you can divine what others are really thinking about; based on such limited (and non-technical yet pumped) input? So this guy is just excited about OS X thus that entitles him (due to his lack of technical savvy) to bash Windows with malicious fallacies? Right.

As to the NO CRASHING part, well, I find it interesting that after all these years, one can bring down OS X (the latest in production, released in the field, not beta) with that simple key combination. Don't you?

Any computer crashing is a serious matter IMHO. Why? Because all unsaved works goes *POOF*! Whatever cached I/O buffers in the process of flushing in the background, *POOF*. Un-dismounted external drives, *POOF*. Worse even, if the HDD / SDD were in the process of writing at the instant of the crash, this potentially could under catastrophic conditions actually render the peripheral 'bricked'. Rare, but I've seen it happen. Traditional magnetic disks can usually be recovered from such failures, by a low-level formatting. Until fixed however, the device is completely invisible to the system. That is why Maxtor for example provide a MaxOrcize (MAXLLF) utility. The only significant drawback is losing precious data during this operation. Actually, I've found that SpinRite 6 from Gibson Research can non-destructively low-level reformat the damaged 'sectors' (since nowadays, drives do not use sectors anymore, but cram more bits on the outside circumference than the inner circumference section of the platters using zone-bit-recording and constant angular velocity -- but I digress.) If it were an SSD type, under catastrophic crash conditions, these could be rendered permanently damaged are currently unrecoverable from such incidents. 'Bricked". All data lost forever.

This clearly isn't an application bug, since it affects all the applications equally. This is an Operating System critical bug. Not merely a 'keyboarding issue' as you claim. In the article, they downplay the significance of this nasty OS X bug. They warn you to make a copy of the app, to avoid the 'infinite loop' which is a mere euphemism for OS X crashing. Friends have told me that even after the debug dump screen, the entire OS is dead, unresponsive, and must be rebooted. You can click anywhere, but OS X is dead.

Yeah, under lab conditions, one can control this crash, but most Apple users are confident that MacOS just works. Ironic eh?

Since this thread is about Crash-Proof computing, I thought this would be appropriate here?

As to the NO NEED FOR ANTIVIRUS, I'm still awaiting an answer to my question regarding "Please explain the built-in antivirus in OS X"? (This was a rhetorical question BTW).

So, what should I do? Simply remain silent in the face of blatant lies & fallacies? Is that what you suggest WinTarded people like me should do?

Unfortunately, I cannot see into people's minds, thus assume like you do, they were just excited and pumped up about OS X. And even if this were the case, a non tech savvy person (or anybody for that matter), doesn't need to trash other people's achievements in such a low class fashion spewing vitriol and fallacies. My stated mission is to debunk FUD (and not just here on PC World). I will do so every time I encounter it. Like it or not.

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  Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:35 AM

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Save that research money and get a MAC. There is a reason why they say "MACs just work" "They" say a lot of things don't they? I wonder what the reason is though? While others say other things too?
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AFTER USING WINDOWS 10 YEARS, WINDOWS 8 IS THE LAST STRAW. I'VE SWITCHED TO MAC AND LINUX AND WISHED I HAD DONE IT SOONER. CORPORATE GREED TO PINCH EVERY PENNY OF PROFIT FOR CEO'S AND THE LIKE AT THE EXPENSE OF CONSUMERS. WINDOZ 8 IS ONE OS THAT YOU WON'T SHOVE DOWN MY THROAT MICRO$OFT. FOR THOSE WHO LIKE WINDOZ 8, GOOD FOR YOU...FREEDOM OF CHOICE. I'M GLAD I HAVE MY CHOICE WITH MAC AND LINUX, NO CRASHES, NO NEED FOR ANTI VIRUS, MORE SECURE AND LESS TIME TO MAINTAIN MY COMPUTER. ^^^ Here we go again! More FUD & BS from Microsoft haters and bashers. What's up with the ALL CAPS? Be careful, or you might be viewed as a RETARD, just like me? Don't you know about the Internet Etiquette after 10 years? Geez! Some are sure slow learners... No crashes you say? Hm. It says otherwise right here: Searching Bing for http://www.bing.com/search?q=key sequence consistently crash osx&src=IE-TopResult&FORM=IE10TR reveals: What only 705,000 results? Searching Google for https://encrypted.go...client=psy-ab&q=key sequence consistently crashes osx reveals: Ah, that's more like it, 45,100,000 results confirming this oddity useful feature of OS X, 10.8.2 + all the latest updates, of course. Relax! And have a nice day! Even bird heads can be happy and serene. Why all the angst? Everybody is cuter when happy! PS: Do try that {hold down the shift key} and File:/// just for fun! Isn't it cool to be able to crash the entire OS X (the latest) with this simple 'magical-oh-wow-revolutionary' key combination? Yet another Apple first! Aren't you curious? My good buddies in OS X assure me of the authenticity of this magical key sequence, which works on 99.99% in all applications under OS X. PPS: Please explain the built-in antivirus in OS X? ~~~~~~~~~~ Never insult anyone by accident. ~ Robert A. Heinlein Ignorance is trainable – Stupidity is terminal. ~ Jerry Fleming Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge. ~ Charles Darwin Never underestimate the power of human stupidity. ~ Robert A. Heinlein


So every one telling you that they like OS X and Apple better is a Hater ?
if so Im joining the ranks of haters.

and your point is that because you can type file:/// and make osx crash Windows must be better ?

how about this I want to close my computer mac: slam my air closed and stick in bag, pc dont think so, but you can close down your computer ohh wait no you cant because you MUST install 19 updates before it will turn off what ? I could make this list 5 kilometers long and im sure you can make a long list on why you like windows better, but at the end of the day in 8 years I had 1 crash on my mac and perhaps 50 on my PC withc i ONLY use for work and don not install all sorts of strange software on - and after i got my family to change to mac as well number of calls like "I bought a new printer why cant i print" has gone from about 50 pr year to about 5 pr year.

I do hate Microsoft and would wish that every program my work demands i use could run under OSX - I also would wish that my new 2500$ IBM computer would boot as fast as my 5 year old MBP - I dont know if its IBM or Microsoft i have to blame but I do know i dont like to wait 11 minutes for the computer to start.
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  Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:36 AM

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Save that research money and get a MAC. There is a reason why they say "MACs just work" "They" say a lot of things don't they? I wonder what the reason is though? While others say other things too?
WinTard said

don16140 said
AFTER USING WINDOWS 10 YEARS, WINDOWS 8 IS THE LAST STRAW. I'VE SWITCHED TO MAC AND LINUX AND WISHED I HAD DONE IT SOONER. CORPORATE GREED TO PINCH EVERY PENNY OF PROFIT FOR CEO'S AND THE LIKE AT THE EXPENSE OF CONSUMERS. WINDOZ 8 IS ONE OS THAT YOU WON'T SHOVE DOWN MY THROAT MICRO$OFT. FOR THOSE WHO LIKE WINDOZ 8, GOOD FOR YOU...FREEDOM OF CHOICE. I'M GLAD I HAVE MY CHOICE WITH MAC AND LINUX, NO CRASHES, NO NEED FOR ANTI VIRUS, MORE SECURE AND LESS TIME TO MAINTAIN MY COMPUTER. ^^^ Here we go again! More FUD & BS from Microsoft haters and bashers. What's up with the ALL CAPS? Be careful, or you might be viewed as a RETARD, just like me? Don't you know about the Internet Etiquette after 10 years? Geez! Some are sure slow learners... No crashes you say? Hm. It says otherwise right here: Searching Bing for http://www.bing.com/search?q=key sequence consistently crash osx&src=IE-TopResult&FORM=IE10TR reveals: What only 705,000 results? Searching Google for https://encrypted.go...client=psy-ab&q=key sequence consistently crashes osx reveals: Ah, that's more like it, 45,100,000 results confirming this oddity useful feature of OS X, 10.8.2 + all the latest updates, of course. Relax! And have a nice day! Even bird heads can be happy and serene. Why all the angst? Everybody is cuter when happy! PS: Do try that {hold down the shift key} and File:/// just for fun! Isn't it cool to be able to crash the entire OS X (the latest) with this simple 'magical-oh-wow-revolutionary' key combination? Yet another Apple first! Aren't you curious? My good buddies in OS X assure me of the authenticity of this magical key sequence, which works on 99.99% in all applications under OS X. PPS: Please explain the built-in antivirus in OS X? ~~~~~~~~~~ Never insult anyone by accident. ~ Robert A. Heinlein Ignorance is trainable – Stupidity is terminal. ~ Jerry Fleming Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge. ~ Charles Darwin Never underestimate the power of human stupidity. ~ Robert A. Heinlein


So every one telling you that they like OS X and Apple better is a Hater ?
if so Im joining the ranks of haters.

and your point is that because you can type file:/// and make osx crash Windows must be better ?

how about this I want to close my computer mac: slam my air closed and stick in bag, pc dont think so, but you can close down your computer ohh wait no you cant because you MUST install 19 updates before it will turn off what ? I could make this list 5 kilometers long and im sure you can make a long list on why you like windows better, but at the end of the day in 8 years I had 1 crash on my mac and perhaps 50 on my PC withc i ONLY use for work and don not install all sorts of strange software on - and after i got my family to change to mac as well number of calls like "I bought a new printer why cant i print" has gone from about 50 pr year to about 5 pr year.

I do hate Microsoft and would wish that every program my work demands i use could run under OSX - I also would wish that my new 2500$ IBM computer would boot as fast as my 5 year old MBP - I dont know if its IBM or Microsoft i have to blame but I do know i dont like to wait 11 minutes for the computer to start.
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  Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:47 AM

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  Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:24 AM

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So, what should I do? Simply remain silent in the face of blatant lies & fallacies? Is that what you suggest WinTarded people like me should do?


My point re 'uppercase man' was that you sure must have a lot of time on your hands to go after a sitting duck with the entire armada. Look at my first post today to him. All I said was Macs actually do crash, and I included a link to a fresh MacWorld article on how do deal with such events.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:10 AM

View PostDUAF, on 18 February 2013 - 06:36 AM, said:

I do hate Microsoft and would wish that every program my work demands i use could run under OSX - I also would wish that my new 2500$ IBM computer would boot as fast as my 5 year old MBP - I dont know if its IBM or Microsoft i have to blame but I do know i dont like to wait 11 minutes for the computer to start.

Not replying to the rest of your tripe.

If you have ANY modern PC that takes 11 minutes to boot, there is something wrong with it. Be it hardware (memory for example) or software. The typical machine boots somewhere between 20 and 30 seconds. The slowest ones reach one minute. Anything beyond one minute is typically considered mal-functioning.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:44 AM

View Postartzy65, on 18 February 2013 - 09:24 AM, said:

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So, what should I do? Simply remain silent in the face of blatant lies & fallacies? Is that what you suggest WinTarded people like me should do?


My point re 'uppercase man' was that you sure must have a lot of time on your hands to go after a sitting duck with the entire armada. Look at my first post today to him. All I said was Macs actually do crash, and I included a link to a fresh MacWorld article on how do deal with such events.
http://www.macworld....ml#tk.nl_mwbest


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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:23 AM

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View PostDUAF, on 18 February 2013 - 06:36 AM, said:

So every one telling you that they like OS X and Apple better is a Hater ?
if so Im joining the ranks of haters.


No need to disguise your prejudice or lie to justify your existing hate of Microsoft on my account?

View PostDUAF, on 18 February 2013 - 06:36 AM, said:

and your point is that because you can type file:/// and make osx crash Windows must be better ?


Where did I say that Windows must be better than OS X? Please do tell us?

View PostDUAF, on 18 February 2013 - 06:36 AM, said:

how about this I want to close my computer mac: slam my air closed and stick in bag, pc dont think so, but you can close down your computer ohh wait no you cant because you MUST install 19 updates before it will turn off what ? I could make this list 5 kilometers long and im sure you can make a long list on why you like windows better, but at the end of the day in 8 years I had 1 crash on my mac and perhaps 50 on my PC withc i ONLY use for work and don not install all sorts of strange software on - and after i got my family to change to mac as well number of calls like "I bought a new printer why cant i print" has gone from about 50 pr year to about 5 pr year.

I do hate Microsoft and would wish that every program my work demands i use could run under OSX - I also would wish that my new 2500$ IBM computer would boot as fast as my 5 year old MBP - I dont know if its IBM or Microsoft i have to blame but I do know i dont like to wait 11 minutes for the computer to start.


^^^
Ah, here we go again. More FUD & BS from ABM (Anything But Microsoft) haters and bashers! As usual, hot-air, devoid of any real substance, or truth.

Well I won't waste my time debating you and your crap.

Suffice to say that I actually appreciate and respect some of what Apple has accomplished.

However I can't stand its zombie army of fanboys and their nasty elitist attitudes.

Apparently I'm not the only one:

https://encrypted.go...e+apple+fanboys
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https://encrypted.go...apple+followers
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So keep on hating Microsoft. You are contributing well to Apple's crusade & public opinion image... For good or bad. Apple needs more fanbois like you.

Time Wasted Factor: 5 minutes. Hey that was fun!
Edit: Typo, six minutes total after review.

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  Posted 18 February 2013 - 12:32 PM

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So, what should I do? Simply remain silent in the face of blatant lies & fallacies? Is that what you suggest WinTarded people like me should do?

My point re 'uppercase man' was that you sure must have a lot of time on your hands to go after a sitting duck with the entire armada. Look at my first post today to him. All I said was Macs actually do crash, and I included a link to a fresh MacWorld article on how do deal with such events. http://www.macworld....ml#tk.nl_mwbest Timing is the essence of life! Isn't it a long-weekend for you? It is here in Ontario. We do things differently in the Great White North. 30 minutes of fun here and there. Lots of it. Hey! We're Canadians! Cool eh? ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Think different! {Apple slogan} Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted. ~ John Lennon The genius, wit, and spirit of a nation are discovered by their proverbs. ~ Francis Bacon



FYI I live in Ontario
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  Posted 18 February 2013 - 12:55 PM

View Postartzy65, on 18 February 2013 - 12:32 PM, said:

View PostWinTard, on 18 February 2013 - 10:44 AM, said:

View Postartzy65, on 18 February 2013 - 09:24 AM, said:

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So, what should I do? Simply remain silent in the face of blatant lies & fallacies? Is that what you suggest WinTarded people like me should do?


My point re 'uppercase man' was that you sure must have a lot of time on your hands to go after a sitting duck with the entire armada. Look at my first post today to him. All I said was Macs actually do crash, and I included a link to a fresh MacWorld article on how do deal with such events.
http://www.macworld....ml#tk.nl_mwbest


Timing is the essence of life! Isn't it a long-weekend for you? It is here in Ontario. We do things differently in the Great White North. 30 minutes of fun here and there. Lots of it.

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FYI I live in Ontario


Glad to know this tidbit of info. And we also get pretty good Internet in Ontario don't we?

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I'm in Mississauga.

Actually, I wish all computer and high-technology enthusiasts could get along, without slipping on the partisan banana peel... So we could all benefit from real useful knowledge and have fun together, sharing, discovering, and discussing in a civil manner.

In retrospect, your attitude is the way to to.

Cheers and all the best artzy65!

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  Posted 18 February 2013 - 01:31 PM

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FYI I live in Ontario

WinTard said

Glad to know this tidbit of info. And we also get pretty good Internet in Ontario don't we? I'm in Mississauga. Actually, I wish all computer and high-technology enthusiasts could get along, without slipping on the partisan banana peel... So we could all benefit from real useful knowledge and have fun together, sharing, discovering, and discussing in a civil manner. In retrospect, your attitude is the way to to. Cheers and all the best artzy65!


Bathurst-Wilson here

My speedtest dl results are nowhere near that speed... DSL from inter.net.ca Crappy wiring here too... but way faster than dialup. They promise 50x dialup which is about right.. no complaints, I'm not in a big hurry

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  Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:22 PM

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DUAF said
So every one telling you that they like OS X and Apple better is a Hater ? if so Im joining the ranks of haters. No need to disguise your prejudice or lie to justify your existing hate of Microsoft on my account?
DUAF said
and your point is that because you can type file:/// and make osx crash Windows must be better ? Where did I say that Windows must be better than OS X? Please do tell us?
DUAF said
how about this I want to close my computer mac: slam my air closed and stick in bag, pc dont think so, but you can close down your computer ohh wait no you cant because you MUST install 19 updates before it will turn off what ? I could make this list 5 kilometers long and im sure you can make a long list on why you like windows better, but at the end of the day in 8 years I had 1 crash on my mac and perhaps 50 on my PC withc i ONLY use for work and don not install all sorts of strange software on - and after i got my family to change to mac as well number of calls like "I bought a new printer why cant i print" has gone from about 50 pr year to about 5 pr year. I do hate Microsoft and would wish that every program my work demands i use could run under OSX - I also would wish that my new 2500$ IBM computer would boot as fast as my 5 year old MBP - I dont know if its IBM or Microsoft i have to blame but I do know i dont like to wait 11 minutes for the computer to start. ^^^ Ah, here we go again. More FUD & BS from ABM (Anything But Microsoft) haters and bashers! As usual, hot-air, devoid of any real substance, or truth. Well I won't waste my time debating you and your crap. Suffice to say that I actually appreciate and respect some of what Apple has accomplished. However I can't stand its zombie army of fanboys and their nasty elitist attitudes. Apparently I'm not the only one: https://encrypted.go...8;sclient=psy-ab&q=hate apple fanboys https://encrypted.go...8;sclient=psy-ab&q=hate apple followers So keep on hating Microsoft. You are contributing well to Apple's crusade & public opinion image... For good or bad. Apple needs more fanbois like you. Time Wasted Factor: 5 minutes. Hey that was fun! Edit: Typo, six minutes total after review. ~~~~~~~~~~ The flush toilet is the basis of western civilization. ~ Alan Coult The fixity of a habit is generally in direct proportion to its absurdity. ~ Proust The future, according to some scientists, will be exactly like the past, only more expensive. ~ John Sladek


Thanks for the links Win Tard. : ) I perused a few of the results; laughing, chuckling, and snickering all the while.

I see many of the same responses from Apple users every day. It's good I don't reply to each and every one of them; I wouldn't get anything done. ; ) But every so often, one needs to be set straight. (I doubt it helps.)

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 04:18 PM

View Postartzy65, on 18 February 2013 - 01:31 PM, said:

View PostWinTard, on 18 February 2013 - 12:55 PM, said:

View Postartzy65, on 18 February 2013 - 12:32 PM, said:

FYI I live in Ontario

Glad to know this tidbit of info. And we also get pretty good Internet in Ontario don't we?

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I'm in Mississauga.

Actually, I wish all computer and high-technology enthusiasts could get along, without slipping on the partisan banana peel... So we could all benefit from real useful knowledge and have fun together, sharing, discovering, and discussing in a civil manner.

In retrospect, your attitude is the way to to.

Cheers and all the best artzy65!

Bathurst-Wilson here

My speedtest dl results are nowhere near that speed... DSL from inter.net.ca Crappy wiring here too... but way faster than dialup. They promise 50x dialup which is about right.. no complaints, I'm not in a big hurry

How do you get images into your comments


Mississauga Road / 401 here.

I found on Reddit what they use for posting images, and it's just great.

Most people there use imgur. A free service, that really rocks!
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Also I use the most excellent Snagit utility to capture snapshots & videos. Available on Mac too!

After I captured whatever screenshot, I simply upload it to imgur:
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Then point the imgURL to PC World:
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Simple isn't it?

As to the Internet Service Provider:
https://encrypted.go...+ultimate+fibre
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I've also got three more ISPs @home: Bell Fibe, Acanac and Distributel. But that is another story...
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Are not some enthusiasts, a bit maniacs? For instance, as an eccentric audio/videophile, my Home Theater runs Windows 8 on more than 10,000 Watts RMS of ultra-pure high-definition sound, with 32-bit DAC + 32-bit DSP Hi-Bit oversampling, on every source of input. Close to the iMax theater accoustic power in much less space however. As usual I passionately digress... My bad.

Quality is never expensive!
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 04:28 PM

View Postchosenson, on 18 February 2013 - 02:22 PM, said:

Thanks for the links WinTard. : ) I perused a few of the results; laughing, chuckling, and snickering all the while.

I see many of the same responses from Apple users every day. It's good I don't reply to each and every one of them; I wouldn't get anything done. ; ) But every so often, one needs to be set straight. (I doubt it helps.)

At what price point does one stop buying quality and start buying foolishness?


Thanks chosenson for the kind words. :)

I enjoy reading your informative posts as well.

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  Posted 19 February 2013 - 08:17 AM

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How do you get images into your comments

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I found on http://www.reddit.com/ what they use for posting images, and it's just great. Most people there use http://imgur.com/. A free service, that really rocks! Also I use the most excellent http://www.techsmith.com/snagit.html utility to capture snapshots & videos. Available on Mac too! After I captured whatever screenshot, I simply upload it to imgur: Then point the imgURL to PC World: Simple isn't it?


As easy as pie... thanks.
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  Posted 19 February 2013 - 10:37 AM

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At what price point does one stop buying quality and start buying foolishness?


I've never bought any Apple product that I would call foolish. For me, buying a PC would be foolish [for me] at any price point. I have purchased 12 Macs since 1996. All secondhand (except for my Mac Mini in 2011). All dirt cheap, all a big productivity jump up from the previous one.
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  Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:08 PM

I agree with you artzy65. It was a foolish statement. Everything before that I could have let slide.
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