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Post your comments for Microsoft's Tough Friday: Software giant battles hackers, malware, and a cloud outage here

[jscott418]

How's that cloud stuff working for you? I wonder how many times it will have to be proven that cloud services is a joke and a security nightmare. How many of these big tech giants can't keep stuff secure. Yet we still carry on with moving everything to the cloud. That cloud is a big storm cloud.

[jazzy007]

So Microsoft Azure certificate expire and the systems went offline on Friday late afternoon and by Saturday morning it was up and running. Nothing to talk about here, just keep up trolling.

A malware was found on some computer systems for Mac base on Java. So the malware probably came from some infected Mac or a website for the Iphone but it did not disclosure the time of infection. So it could have been before Apple discover and patch the vulnerability.

Let me know when something worth reading happens. In the mean time take two aspirin and call me in the morning.

[Coasty63]

Re: Microsoft Cloud outage.

Nothing to talk about here... Just keep trolling!!!

Jazzy007, you've got to be kidding me! Somehow I don't think you'd be so blase, or such a wise ass, about the outage if you were one of those who found they couldn't access their data because of it.

Grow up kid....

[TsarNikky]

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How's that cloud stuff working for you? I wonder how many times it will have to be proven that cloud services is a joke and a security nightmare. How many of these big tech giants can't keep stuff secure. Yet we still carry on with moving everything to the cloud. That cloud is a big storm cloud.

You are so right. Several, very high profile, crashes are needed--maybe at the level of Microsoft, Apple, GM, Procter & Gamble, etc. before people will realize that it is hardly the "savior" being marketed.

[scH4MMER]

Coasty63, keep in mind that it was a security measure that caused the outage. How many companies get hacked because they've been too blase about security? But you're right, this isn't a non-issue like Jazzy007 suggests, but it is a well-known technology fact that occasionally, hopefully rarely, the network goes down. I think most of us have learned to accept that fact, and Microsoft consistently reimburses customers for network interruptions (unlike on-premises IT). Frankly, with the complexity involved, I'm shocked there haven't been monthly outages in these early pioneering days of cloud computing.

[BIGELLOWagui]

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How's that cloud stuff working for you? I wonder how many times it will have to be proven that cloud services is a joke and a security nightmare. How many of these big tech giants can't keep stuff secure. Yet we still carry on with moving everything to the cloud. That cloud is a big storm cloud.

First, Microsoft is the worst for cloud storage/computing. So, this is anecdotal at best. Second, prior to "the cloud", people have had computer problems for years. Hard drives go bad. A/C units go bad. Cooling fans wear down. Etc... The difference is, when these types of things happened, it never made the news. So, the only real difference with cloud snafus is it makes the news. It doesn't mean it is somehow happening more frequently than computer problems before "the cloud".

Claiming that this anecdotal article (or any other article) somehow shows that utilizing the cloud is a bad idea shows ignorance. Unless you're Amish and think that computers themselves are a bad idea, your comment could be applied to computing itself.

[BinaryRecoil]

Good. I wish them nothing but the worst luck & future of any corporation in the history of mankind. I hate Bill Gates more than a have the ability to express. From demanding that I sign in my xbox live with an e-mail address, to profiteering off of video games through digital sales in working together with Gamestop to illegally price gouge. From his views of "we need to eradicate a percentage of mankind" to his foundation ACTUALLY murdering children globally with purposefully botched vaccinations.

I hope an alien breaks through the defense line, that no one is apparently intelligent enough to just look up with night vision goggles & realize exists, and hits him with a bolt of supercharged plasma wrapped in an unstable frequency field that completely destroys every sub-atomic particle he's made of.

[erniecolorado157]

First of all, hacking has been around since the internet was invented, period. This does NOT mean a company is bad or unresourceful simply because of haters, twisted, greedy and selfish people want to attempt to do anything negative to it. Second, any smart person knows you use an internet security software suite. The best is from Emsisoft and Malwarebytes together. I only use Windows because Linux and Apple are not truly mainstream, they are not used in the office setting overall and you cannot build them from the ground up and make them universal like you can with Windows. And you always use the most current version of Windows when released and keep it current DAILY by running Windows update automatically or manually. The best version is Windows Professional 8, 64-bit easily, of course, which is what I have been using since it's release with NO issues, NO malware, NO viruses and NO crashes, as I never experienced either with previous versions going back to XP. It is all the consumer and their proper maintenance of the hardware and the software of their Windows PC. It does not take a college education if you keep up with it. Also the most secure browser is the one the operating system company makes, Internet Explorer, and you should be using version 10 obviously. You can install Firefox and Chrome for backup if you feel some sites are not that current with Microsoft's internet security standards, but no matter what the ratings of Chrome and Firefox, make no mistake, they are NOT more current and secure than Internet Explorer 10, period. Bing beats Google 2 to 1, even with consumers. The Zune portable device was even better than the Apple iPods regardless of advertising and hyped marketing that Apple is so devious for. Although it is now Xbox Music, the Zune 120, with the biggest hard drive of any portable player to date, is the one I still use today with the Zune music software, which will work with the Professional version of Windows 8. And you do not pay per song like with Apple unless you want to. Zune/Xbox Music has an unlimited monthly streaming service, or you can pay for ten months and get two months free, which works together with Xbox Live. The same goes for Java. You always use the most current version and keep the update scheduler running in the background when updates are available. The same with Adobe Flash. Java and Flash are essential for the internet anyways and should be kept up to date, and work best ALWAYS with Internet Explorer, especially version ten. Have a great day!

[erniecolorado157]

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Good. I wish them nothing but the worst luck & future of any corporation in the history of mankind. I hate Bill Gates more than a have the ability to express. From demanding that I sign in my xbox live with an e-mail address, to profiteering off of video games through digital sales in working together with Gamestop to illegally price gouge. From his views of "we need to eradicate a percentage of mankind" to his foundation ACTUALLY murdering children globally with purposefully botched vaccinations. I hope an alien breaks through the defense line, that no one is apparently intelligent enough to just look up with night vision goggles & realize exists, and hits him with a bolt of supercharged plasma wrapped in an unstable frequency field that completely destroys every sub-atomic particle he's made of.

Microsoft is still king and actually if it were not for Bill gates Steve Jobs and Apple would be gone in the past. Btw, Bill Gates is no longer the CEO of Microsoft. Apple products are poor at best and their browser is the worst for the internet. Internet Explorer 10 and Windows 8 Professional beat Apple regardless of media twists and hype, and they know it. You need to get some serious counseling. The world IS overpopulated because too many illegitimate babies are being born, and you know that to. Also you cannot call anything murder until you can prove them guilty in a court of law. Finally, the world has always had humans in it, not perfect, and that includes you and I. Take care.

[cwdavi1]

"Bing beats Google 2 to 1".

erniecolorado157, what have you been smoking?

[thewazak]

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erniecolorado157 said - Microsoft is still king

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Microsoft is the worst for cloud storage/computing

These comments needs to be seen in context: Even if one of the niche market computer companies (including Apple) imploded, it would have little effect overall. Microsoft on the other hand, only has to hiccup and the effects are known worldwide.
It's like the travel accident figures: someone gets killed every hour on the road - and it rarely makes the news. A plane crash on the other hand ......
Does that make flying unsafe?

[thewazak]

Sorry. No edit function.
My second quote was from BIGELLOWagui

[kkabza]

Unhappy IT Admins who have to learn something new are not going to stop the Storm Cloud you speak of. There are going to be glitches its man made, but I am sure you will find a lot more glitches occurring daily on private networks. The cost savings alone speaks for it self.

[LQR9]

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How's that cloud stuff working for you? I wonder how many times it will have to be proven that cloud services is a joke and a security nightmare. How many of these big tech giants can't keep stuff secure. Yet we still carry on with moving everything to the cloud. That cloud is a big storm cloud.

Totally agree. I work on the cloud(s) all day. The performance and reliability from both of our software vendors leaves a lot to be desired. So much so that I save a lot of documents and schedules locally where I know I can find them.

The idea of having personal documents on iCloud, Azure or SkyDrive rather than on my own backed up hard drives just gives me the creeps.

[LorinThwaits]

@erniecolorado157 -- o no, you drank so much of the kool aid that a spout has popped out of you and is continuously spewing nonsense!

Let's let the market decide which operating systems and browsers are preferable. For me, Microsoft's products have merit, but especially in this last wave of releases leave much to be desired.

[MidnightLights]

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jscott418:
How's that cloud stuff working for you? I wonder how many times it will have to be proven that cloud services is a joke and a security nightmare. How many of these big tech giants can't keep stuff secure. Yet we still carry on with moving everything to the cloud. That cloud is a big storm cloud.
LQR9:
Totally agree. I work on the cloud(s) all day. The performance and reliability from both of our software vendors leaves a lot to be desired. So much so that I save a, lot of documents and schedules locally where I know I can find them. The idea of having personal documents on iCloud, Azure or SkyDrive rather than on my own backed up hard drives just gives me the creeps.

Cloud computing and storage has always made me nervous. There have been times when in-house Intranet server computing and storage has made me nervous, especially in cases where I was not allowed to back up my data and carry it off-site or even save it to my workstation. I have experienced Intranet systems crashes that resulted in data loss and hours of production loss, so for large enterprises I'm not sure reliability of one trumps the other. For me it's more of a security issue. I would like to believe, especially with the level that hacking has gone these days, that my home system is significantly more secure then any major enterprise, if for no other reason then I'm a pretty small target compared to Microsoft, Apple, FBI, or other major target.

[artzy65]

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How's that cloud stuff working for you? I wonder how many times it will have to be proven that cloud services is a joke and a security nightmare. How many of these big tech giants can't keep stuff secure. Yet we still carry on with moving everything to the cloud. That cloud is a big storm cloud. First, Microsoft is the worst for cloud storage/computing. So, this is anecdotal at best. Second, prior to "the cloud", people have had computer problems for years. Hard drives go bad. A/C units go bad. Cooling fans wear down. Etc... The difference is, when these types of things happened, it never made the news. So, the only real difference with cloud snafus is it makes the news. It doesn't mean it is somehow happening more frequently than computer problems before "the cloud". Claiming that this anecdotal article (or any other article) somehow shows that utilizing the cloud is a bad idea shows ignorance. Unless you're Amish and think that computers themselves are a bad idea, your comment could be applied to computing itself.

Call me old-fashioned, but I just can't wrap my head around the idea of storing my files on someone else's system

[artzy65]

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First of all, hacking has been around since the internet was invented, period. This does NOT mean a company is bad or unresourceful simply because of haters, twisted, greedy and selfish people want to attempt to do anything negative to it. Second, any smart person knows you use an internet security software suite. The best is from Emsisoft and Malwarebytes together. I only use Windows because Linux and Apple are not truly mainstream, they are not used in the office setting overall and you cannot build them from the ground up and make them universal like you can with Windows. And you always use the most current version of Windows when released and keep it current DAILY by running Windows update automatically or manually. The best version is Windows Professional 8, 64-bit easily, of course, which is what I have been using since it's release with NO issues, NO malware, NO viruses and NO crashes, as I never experienced either with previous versions going back to XP. It is all the consumer and their proper maintenance of the hardware and the software of their Windows PC. It does not take a college education if you keep up with it. Also the most secure browser is the one the operating system company makes, Internet Explorer, and you should be using version 10 obviously. You can install Firefox and Chrome for backup if you feel some sites are not that current with Microsoft's internet security standards, but no matter what the ratings of Chrome and Firefox, make no mistake, they are NOT more current and secure than Internet Explorer 10, period. Bing beats Google 2 to 1, even with consumers. The Zune portable device was even better than the Apple iPods regardless of advertising and hyped marketing that Apple is so devious for. Although it is now Xbox Music, the Zune 120, with the biggest hard drive of any portable player to date, is the one I still use today with the Zune music software, which will work with the Professional version of Windows 8. And you do not pay per song like with Apple unless you want to. Zune/Xbox Music has an unlimited monthly streaming service, or you can pay for ten months and get two months free, which works together with Xbox Live. The same goes for Java. You always use the most current version and keep the update scheduler running in the background when updates are available. The same with Adobe Flash. Java and Flash are essential for the internet anyways and should be kept up to date, and work best ALWAYS with Internet Explorer, especially version ten. Have a great day!

I diabled Java on my computers years ago. It is not essential for the internet.

[artzy65]

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I diabled Java on my computers years ago. It is not essential for the internet.

I meant to say 'disabled'