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Post your comments for PlayStation 4 vs. PC graphics: Can Sony even compete? here

[quincy29]

Let's be honest here

You basically wrote an article slamming the PS4's specs and also how PC Gaming is far superior to console gaming (calling a spade a spade)

One thing you fail to realise is the fact that this hardware will be cemented in the console for 7+ years to come, whereas most gaming PC's come with the ability to uprate or upgrade. processors or graphics cards, allowing them to be current and up-to-date

Also...

The PS4 when launched will cost around £290.00 which is around $440.00 bearing in mind most gaming PC's fetch for around $1200.00+ (decent). Now to me that sounds a lot better than splashing out a fortune to by something that will essentially do the same job, albeit not to the high level a PC can achieve

[ThedrWes]

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Let's be honest here You basically wrote an article slamming the PS4's specs and also how PC Gaming is far superior to console gaming (calling a spade a spade) One thing you fail to realise is the fact that this hardware will be cemented in the console for 7+ years to come, whereas most gaming PC's come with the ability to uprate or upgrade. processors or graphics cards, allowing them to be current and up-to-date Also... The PS4 when launched will cost around £290.00 which is around $440.00 bearing in mind most gaming PC's fetch for around $1200.00+ (decent). Now to me that sounds a lot better than splashing out a fortune to by something that will essentially do the same job, albeit not to the high level a PC can achieve

This is what I thought.

[crcn11]

Very one sided. Who does this website employ? Perhaps if the PS4 was running Windows OS, points here would be made. But look at the 360... a glorified DVD player, yet even that is capable of some outstanding visuals. It's not all about the hardware, you know.

[davidcoleman007]

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One thing you fail to realise is the fact that this hardware will be cemented in the console for 7+ years to come, whereas most gaming PC's come with the ability to uprate or upgrade. processors or graphics cards, allowing them to be current and up-to-date

This is EXACTLY what the article is saying. A console will NEVER equal a well equipped PC. My 3 year old self-built PC will rock a PS3's world. I can play Crysis at 55 fps and it's note even "top of the line". So yes the article is slamming the PS4's specs. And why not? they are a joke. The console is going the way of the dinosaur, just face it. The only reason to use a console is... oh wait... none, unless the game manufacture just hasn't released a title for the pc by some stroke of fate.

[CookieMonster1234]

Well don't get ahead of yourself there cupcake.

Who cares about the super suped up computer or this or that. Computers will always be better in performance wise. But hence PS4 may be outdated hardware when it releases. Who cares, they still boast the better exclusives and oh yes before I forget Sony boasts the better exclusives compared to 360 and PC. Outdated of course yes, but exclusives wise they win. And even with the consoles of this gen being 8 and 7 years old. PC didn't do much in the graphical department to wow us anyways. PC is built for all round and consoles are dedicated Gaming Machines.

PC is good yes, but consoles are easier. Plug play go. No upgrade needed. No money spent on new hardware to be able to play the newer games.

[kieran12]

I think he forget to mention this is a PC world article!

He also forgot to mention most home computers bought today would be 32 bit,

The minority buy those. 64 bit machines. Is a PC better for gaming yes if you're willing to pay for the software and hardware!

32 bit machines can handle only 4GB of ram. Doesn't matter if their graphic card is high end or their CPU is top notch. The lack of ram in these machines greatly hinders the performance of the game on your computer monitor.

Playstation 4 specs will have 8 GB of GDDR5 ram So the fact is the Playstation 4 will be awesome gaming machine.

[waldojim]

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But wait! I'm not slamming the PlayStation 4. A gaming PC is not a gaming console. Unlike gaming PCs, which can be overclocked and water cooled and often cost north of $1000, consoles need to balance performance, cost, and thermals in order to appeal to the mainstream masses while simultaneously staying small and quiet enough for living room use. These constraints place inherent limits on what these next-gen consoles can accomplish.

Wait a minute.
A PC of PS4 specs costs NOTHING close to $1000. A PC matching the PS4 spec (without Windows) runs about $500. That is with a quality case and power supply of course (Antec, and Corsair respectively). Truth be told, if the PS4 costs more than $400, they want too much.

Also, how many people have water cooling? 1 in 100,000? If that... The number of overclockers is just as small. Sorry, but that has no bearing on how Consoles stack up to PC's.

What does matter, is balance of power, controlling heat, controlling cost, and giving the customer the visual experience worthy of a next-gen console.

As of right now though, there is no chance of my buying a PS4. Not because of the tech specs, but rather the company.

[waldojim]

kieran12, on 25 February 2013 - 08:06 AM, said:

I think he forget to mention this is a PC world article!

He also forgot to mention most home computers bought today would be 32 bit,

The minority buy those. 64 bit machines. Is a PC better for gaming yes if you're willing to pay for the software and hardware!

32 bit machines can handle only 4GB of ram. Doesn't matter if their graphic card is high end or their CPU is top notch. The lack of ram in these machines greatly hinders the performance of the game on your computer monitor.

Playstation 4 specs will have 8 GB of GDDR5 ram So the fact is the Playstation 4 will be awesome gaming machine.

Are you high? The only 32bit CPU on the market today is an Atom. Even then, new Atoms are 64bit.

The PC's are every bit 64bit for 99% of the current customers. The question is, did they get a 64bit OPERATING SYSTEM.

[FullMetalGear]

I think he forgot to mention that consoles are optimized for gaming, not having to deal with a few things that a pc would like several programs running and security. So the hardware in a console can focus on graphics mainly giving it an advantage over if that same hardware was in a laptop or computer.

I'm satisfied with console gaming, i don't need a high end gaming pc which hardware i have to upgrade every so often.

Killzone: Shadow Fall and Watch Dogs look amazing when you compare it to anything from the previous generation. Looking forward to the great console games in the future.

[mfgcasa]

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PC is built for all round and consoles are dedicated Gaming Machines.

Not true PC's can be customized to become dedicated Gaming Machines or any other kind.

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PC is good yes, but consoles are easier.

'Easier' is a matter of opinion and there fore I could say PC is 'easier' and theres nothing you could say to change that .

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Plug play go.

yes true you just need to install it.... O wait same a PC however PC's no longer requires discs to be kept. *bows to Steam*

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No upgrade needed.

PC's don't 'need' to be upgraded however they can be this is just an additional feature and true if you don't you wont get the best quality unlike a PS4 however games for both systems are made so the graphics will be ok in 3 - 4 years time However the PS4 won't improve and the PC will.

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No money spent on new hardware to be able to play the newer games.

again you don't need 'new' hardware we PC gamers have something called 'options menu' which allows us to reduce the graphics quality of games so are 'average' computers can handle it. hopes this helps encourages you not to waste your money on a PS4.

[pswilliams986]

*Googles Playstation 4 news*
*Sees title of news article*
*Notices it's from a site called PCworld*
*Expects a biased article bashing the PS4 and reigning PC as king*
*Reads article*
*Is not surprised*

[FullMetalGear]

@mfgcasa

You are missing out on a lot of great games that aren't available on pc, and for what? Cause you want the absolute cutting edge graphics?

Console gaming is rather inexpensive when compared to pc gaming. Which is why console gaming is more popular right now than pc gaming, that you can not deny.

[TangoMike]

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I think he forgot to mention that consoles are optimized for gaming

Very true. We cannot directly compare PC and console hardware and assume their output will be similar. Consoles are highly optimized for gaming--at a level that PC's can only dream of attaining.

To attain the same output as a console, a PC will need more powerful hardware. Simple.

[PS3wannaBe]

The PS4 will be awesome.

First thing is first - PC will always be the best of the best. Highest performance but at the highest price and head ach.

PC's crash a lot more than consoles do. Also PC's do not get the attention from game developers that consoles do. All PC's are not made the same, you need to fork out top dollar money for the hardware if you don't want system incompatibility to cause you to crash over and over.

Where it gets me is what you get from consoles. You get way more games, even the PS3 right now looks very good compared to PC - games like Battlefield 3 only run at higher frames per second on PC VS PS3 and in some cases have larger maps and in all cases more players.

With the introduction of the PS4 the real next gen has finally arrived.

[PS3wannaBe]

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PC is built for all round and consoles are dedicated Gaming Machines. Not true PC's can be customized to become dedicated Gaming Machines or any other kind. PC is good yes, but consoles are easier. 'Easier' is a matter of opinion and there fore I could say PC is 'easier' and theres nothing you could say to change that . Plug play go. yes true you just need to install it.... O wait same a PC however PC's no longer requires discs to be kept. bows to Steam No upgrade needed. PC's don't 'need' to be upgraded however they can be this is just an additional feature and true if you don't you wont get the best quality unlike a PS4 however games for both systems are made so the graphics will be ok in 3 - 4 years time However the PS4 won't improve and the PC will. No money spent on new hardware to be able to play the newer games. again you don't need 'new' hardware we PC gamers have something called 'options menu' which allows us to reduce the graphics quality of games so are 'average' computers can handle it. hopes this helps encourages you not to waste your money on a PS4.

Wow dude you are just wrong on all levels. PC is great, I PC game too but I keep it on the low end for PC just because of the high cost and all the crashes!

You can't tell me that when Battlefield 3 came out that it had many PC gamers jumping through hoops to try and get to play it on their PC rig. Me I just bought the game and let the developers do the work to optomize for my hardware for me.

All the while you lost out on so many games that don't come to PC and of course those exclusive.

Not to mention that for the cost PS3 and PS4 are a perfect entertainment box for the living room. Yes PC is good but Playstation is optomized for the big screen TV. No hastle everything.

[MKZ1945]

Most all gaming console computer internals have been based on fairly old architecture for some time, but their performance is generally not much of an issue for the games designed to operate on that architecture. I suspect the PlayStation 4 performance will be impressive. Not sure why they chose to stay with a mechanical hard drive other than cost consideration.

One thing we must keep in perspective here when it comes to comparing gaming consoles to PCs is that the gaming console has some pretty absolute limits on what can be added to bog down its performance: PCs, not so much. If you build a gaming PC and only use it for games, then you definitely have a huge advantage over any console. When you start adding a ton of other software that tends to run in the background you can reach a point where the performance of your games starts going downhill. It’s not unusual for some gamers to run multi-boot operating systems in which one or more is used for gaming and one is used for everything else but gaming. You might be amazed at the difference in boot time when just booting into an operating system with very limited programs installed. I always chuckle when someone says they got a new computer and are amazed at how fast it boots. Everyone should measure computer boot time when they get a new computer or new operating system and then measure it again about a month later when they have it crammed full of software they seldom use.

If I had younger children I would rather have them using a console than any of my PCs. Cats and children have one thing in common, and that’s curiosity. Curiosity might kill a cat, but an overly curious child might kill your PC, or some software that is on it. I know a number of individuals that have gaming PCs that parents play games on and consoles for there children. Another thing to keep in mind is that gaming consoles also tend to be somewhat more portable than a PC.

[willardweb]

Overall, a fairly balanced article. However, as one other commenter pointed out, you can build a PC capable of running Crysis 3 on ultra settings for under $700 easily ($100 of that is OS).

The specs on consoles are usually impressive at the beginning of their life cycle. The problem is that after year 3, you'll envy PC graphics. Consoles have prevailed to this point because they're easy to use/setup and have a wider game selection. One other console advantage is the trade-in, resell capability.

However, once things become completely digital, the trade-in, resell, used games option will cease to be an advantage. Also as the digitally inclined generations take over and as games continue to branch out to mobile, linux, mac, etc; consoles will no longer have those other two advantages. I believe HTPCs or TVs embedded with enough compute power for gaming will eventually own the living room.

[waldojim]

PS3wannaBe, on 25 February 2013 - 10:13 AM, said:

The PS4 will be awesome.

First thing is first - PC will always be the best of the best. Highest performance but at the highest price and head ach.

PC's crash a lot more than consoles do. Also PC's do not get the attention from game developers that consoles do. All PC's are not made the same, you need to fork out top dollar money for the hardware if you don't want system incompatibility to cause you to crash over and over.

Where it gets me is what you get from consoles. You get way more games, even the PS3 right now looks very good compared to PC - games like Battlefield 3 only run at higher frames per second on PC VS PS3 and in some cases have larger maps and in all cases more players.

With the introduction of the PS4 the real next gen has finally arrived.

My Xbox 360 crashes an average of 3 times per night, requiring a complete restart each time. My PC my crash once a month. Care to try that lie again?

[waldojim]

PS3wannaBe, on 25 February 2013 - 10:18 AM, said:

Wow dude you are just wrong on all levels. PC is great, I PC game too but I keep it on the low end for PC just because of the high cost and all the crashes!

You can't tell me that when Battlefield 3 came out that it had many PC gamers jumping through hoops to try and get to play it on their PC rig. Me I just bought the game and let the developers do the work to optomize for my hardware for me.

All the while you lost out on so many games that don't come to PC and of course those exclusive.

Not to mention that for the cost PS3 and PS4 are a perfect entertainment box for the living room. Yes PC is good but Playstation is optomized for the big screen TV. No hastle everything.

Ok, so you buy cheap crap and then complain because it runs like crap. Guess you own Kia's as well?

Also, hassle? Lets see here, plug in HDMI cable, network, Bluetooth usb thingy, and power, VS PS3, plug in HDMI cable, Network, and power... Yep, that BT usb dongle is a real hassle...

This post has been edited by waldojim: 25 February 2013 - 11:48 AM