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Posted 03 June 2007 - 12:23 PM

I have been looking at Hewlett-Packard Pavilion Notebook with Intel Centrino Duo Mobile Technology Model: dv9335nr since I am looking at Hp with a NVIDIA GeForce Go 7600 256MB (discrete) video card.My question is the game I want to play needs 512 MB RAM and because of this will the video card get full and use the Hard Drive space or what. Please help me.
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Posted 03 June 2007 - 12:52 PM

When the game requires more memory than is on the card, it will borrow system RAM so that you would lose 256 MB of system RAM. The hard drive space comes into play if you are looking at virtual memory.Regards,JB
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Posted 03 June 2007 - 02:15 PM

thank you for a reply. SInce you said virtual memory, how is that different than the system RAM?
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Posted 03 June 2007 - 02:41 PM

Seeker137 - where are you located? I don't think the dv9335nr is a US domestic machine. The basic machine is a dv9000t. Pre-configured machines based on that platform are built for various retailers have different numbers, and in the US market they usually end with US.The reason I ask about the location, is that in the domestic market you can custom order a dv9000t from HP directly and there is an option of either the 256K or the 512K memory on the nVidia 7600 card. Their newer machine which is the dv9500t does not offer a discrete chip at all. I have been looking at this for several weeks now and will probably place my order this week. I have a 2004 HP zv5330us, and it will not repeat not run Vista. I will probably keep it around for the knockabout type of activities. It's still a good basic machine, but just not in the league of the dv9000. It does have the Briteview screen, though, and I have always loved that.
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Posted 03 June 2007 - 02:56 PM

I am located in southeast Kansas and was looking at it online at best buy. I would order a custom one but because of money issues i can not. I am not a computer expert so I have no idea what is US domestic or anything like that.
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Posted 03 June 2007 - 04:35 PM

Well - Best Buy and Kansas is definietly domestic market (as opposed to foreign market). After you have posted a bit, you will note there's a spot for location. It helps, because last week I discussing a machine and he is in Mauritius, beautiful seas there.I have not found ordering from HP to be more expensive that the local Best Buy. What I have found is a better selection. However, in checking with the HP website for a custom ordered machine with the same specs as the dv9335nr, it was $180 more. This is just conjecture, but it may have originally been a machine that had XP on it, was returned to have the Vista pre-load installed. There is nothing wrong with this, it is a new machine with the Vista pre-load, and certainly has good specs with the 2GB of memory. If your application needs more than the 256K of discrete memory, it will pull some of the main memory into use and with 2GB that should not be a problem.I looked up the dv9335nr in the support side of the HP side and it comes right up and the parts listing is there. I may have to rethink my purchase, I was going to go with the 2.0 GHz processor, but if I drop back to the T5300 I can save a lot of money. The second hard drive I can install my selfA good question to ask Best Buy if you are thinking about the extended warranty through them. Do you have to purchase it at the time of checkout, or can you purchase it a week or so later? If you are going with the extended warranty, you might be able to purchase it from HP and get their support beyond 1 yeear as well.If you are ready to do this, I would do it withing a week or so, for I don't think they will last long at this price. If your local store is temporarily out, you can have them place the order over their system and pay for it. Then when it comes in, you just pick it up. It should only take a day or so. Thats how I bought my zv5330us. I looked and looked and when I went into Best Buy to buy it, they had just sold the display that morning. They went onto their web site, placed the order for me for store pickup. It has been a very good machine and I would not think of getting a new one except for Vista. You will love it, if you have existing printers or scanners, they could have driver problems, however.
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Posted 03 June 2007 - 04:53 PM

[quote name='seeker137']thank you for a reply. SInce you said virtual memory, how is that different than the system RAM?To put this in a slightly different perspective, let's split up the memory the system uses by location:1) Physical memory. This the RAM on the chips in the machine and can be split between the system and video memory.2) Virtual memory. This is hard drive space reserved to swap out the physical memory so that what the system sees is more than just the physical memory.System memory is the two combined minus any physical memory that the GPU takes. This can be much more than there is physically in the machine and can cause performance issues if it is too high and lots of memory needs to be in physical memory rather than on the hard disk.Regards,JB
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Posted 04 June 2007 - 06:34 PM

Seeker137 - I stopped by Best Buy this evening, and looked at their display. They did not have a 9335, but they did have a version of the 9000 with the AMD chip. Boy, in person that new machine makes my old laptop look clunky.I talked to one of the reps and found out what the nr was for. As I said, the prebuilt retail store versions always used to use us for the US/Canada market and eu for the European market. Now they are using nr for Non Regional. He said that the new machines will play software and videos from any market. Whether it will play both NTSC (US and Canada - Region 1 coding on DVD's) as well as PAL (Europe) remains to be seen.As I said in my last post, the 9335 looks like a good machine and I see no reason no to get it if it fits in your budge.
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Posted 06 June 2007 - 07:13 PM

Thanks for all the help guys. I think I will get teh dv9335 sometime in the near future. Hopefully the price will go down or I can get a discount. I am more knowledgeable because of your guys help. Thanks again
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