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#1 User is offline   philriley 

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 09:09 PM

I want to know if it's possible to recover a file from something that was printed in the past. For example, I printed an email from the Yahoo Mail webpage, then later deleted the email. Can I search the computer it was printed from for a particular file or file type to find the message again?Thank you.
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Posted 07 June 2007 - 04:10 AM

Hi Philriley. That is a very good question. I guess it would depend on the printer you have. I know there are printers out there that have a "memory" that will allow you to print files that are stored within it.I guess the best thing you can do is contact your specific printer manufacturer's technical support and ask them directly. I am guessing that unless you have a high end printer, you do not have that ability.
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Posted 11 June 2007 - 09:34 AM

What printer are you using? I might be able to help you determine if it has a memory buffer...
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Posted 11 June 2007 - 09:56 AM

The printer is a Canon iP1500, which is a pretty basic printer, I doubt it has any kind of memory.The printer is on a server. The computer I was printing from is another computer connected to the network. What I am hoping for is to find some type of temporary file that is created from the printing process either on the user computer or the server, and recover the email that way. I just don't know if such as thing exists, and if so where and how to look for it.Thank you.
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Posted 11 June 2007 - 10:02 AM

[quote name='philriley']The printer is on a server. The computer I was printing from is another computer connected to the network. Ahh, you didn't mention this previously. I am ALMOST positive there is a way to recover something for a printer on a server; however, this is over my head at this point. Hopefully one of our other PCW forum mates may be able to help out.
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Posted 11 June 2007 - 10:09 AM

... this is a real shot in the dark, but on news radio (tv show) the tech read an email that was deleted off a computer because everything that was typed on the computer was saved in binary. If its true or not I don't know, but if it is you could probably search for your lost document. (Yea.. sorry :cry:)
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Posted 11 June 2007 - 11:21 AM

All print jobs, on servers, mainframes or PC's go through a spool file. In theory if on a local PC, if the PC had not been turned off, or had anything printed, it might be possible to recover the deleted file from the spool file. Practically speaking, I don't know of any software this side of Langley, Va to do that.On a corporate system - emails are now by law retained almost forever. (Sarbanes-Oxley, or as we refer to it SOX). The corporate IT gang would have to do that.Yahoo, since it came off their server - may have it, again as part of the legal requirements, but the time frame is uncertain, and the process of acquiring it is even more uncertain, unless it was important to a legal case.From the printer, those printers that have any memory to speak of would have overwritten it if another print job had come along, or if the printer had been turned off, it would have been erased - printer has volitile memory. That's how you clear garbage when it starts printing - you turn it off to restart it.
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Posted 11 June 2007 - 01:32 PM

By default, Windows retains documents in the spool until it has successfully printed. Then it deletes them forever. You should ask your systems administrators what their policies are.I would definintly follow rgreen4's advice and ask your email administrator if they save all the old emails on your server. Maybe if you ask him nice enough, he'll retrieve this for you.If it was printed from your ISP, on the otherhand, you might be stuffed. That's not good...I'm not a lawyer, but reading this little bit on SOX: http://en.wikipedia..../Sarbanes-OxleyAct doesn't say anything about retaining emails...I think it might be company policy to retain emails to protect them selves of circumstances that might arise from the SOX act, but I doubt the law forces_ companies to save their emails.Let us know if you get that email back! :)
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Posted 11 June 2007 - 06:13 PM

Ah - but like most Federal Acts - the devil is in the details as determined by "rules" fleshing out how the law administered and court cases. All I know, is that our company which is a packaging supplier, over the years has been caught up in various lawsuits, even when we weren't involved. A doesn't like the practices of B, so sues B,C,D,E,F etc.Our IT staff periodically archives all e-mails on our mail server. Even if I delete the e-mail from my inbox, it is not deleted from the master file. Let us also not forget the famous Microsoft e-mails by Bill Gates that surfaced in an anti-trust case.
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Posted 12 June 2007 - 02:19 AM

What were the emails that Bill Gates was caught with? That's pretty interesting... unless you are Bill Gates, it sounds like :D
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Posted 12 June 2007 - 06:53 AM

This goes back many years when the USG and EU were suing MS over IE. Back then you could not "delete" IE and they had made it so a vendor couldn't add a promo to Netscape. Netscape has pretty much disappeared, but it cleaned up source code was the foudation for Firefox.
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Posted 13 June 2007 - 06:42 AM

Just a thought, but have you checked the trash folder in Yahoo email to see if it is still there? You might also be able to have the person that sent the email to you, or the person you sent it to, to send it back. If those are not options then if you still have the printed copy you can always use a scanner to scan it to a file.
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Posted 13 June 2007 - 06:54 AM

[quote name='Tchapp527']Just a thought, but have you checked the trash folder in Yahoo email to see if it is still there? Hi TChapp527. Yahoo cleans out the Trash folder on a regular basis. If I am not mistaken, it is as regular as once a day. > {quote:title=Tchapp527 wrote:}{quote}If those are not options then if you still have the printed copy you can always use a scanner to scan it to a file.I do not think this is an option. I am assuming that philriley received an email, printed it, deleted it, and then accidentially lost the printed document.
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