[auckland]

Hello every onei have just got a question and i hope you can help me, i have got a windows vista and winodws xp at my homei burned some photos on my CD-R disk and then took the CD out and put it back again later on the same machine which is the windows vista- i copied some more photos and i took out the cd from the PC. On the next day i tried to copy more files on the same disk but with different machine with windows XP but when i checked the amount of data (free space left it says zero)and it didn't let me to add some more. i took the CD from the Windows XP and put it back again to the winodws Vista i found the amount of data is 695 is left and the windows vista gave me the option to add some more files on this diskcould anyone plz help me to tell me why i can't copy data on winodws XP but with winodws Vista it will do and how can i fix the problemi have found this link but i'm not quite sure what does mean it's talking about multiple session and finalizeing your CDhttp://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/2fa35b0d-b280-4589-9805-55e753888f5c1033.mspx#EAFThank you so much

[mphenterprises]

[quote name='auckland']i burned some photos on my CD-R disk...Hi Auckland. If you burned photos to a CD-R, you will not be able to burn anything else to the CD. If you want to burn multiple times, you should use a CD-RW (ReWriteable) However, you would then need to make sure that your CD Burner can read and burn to the CD-RW format.However, if this is not your issue, can you please clarify your post?

[rgreen4]

Auckland - this is not an OS issue. If both machines were Vista you would have the same problem. Some of the Disk burning packages such as Nero and Roxio will let you treat a CD Recordable disc as if it were a CD Rewrittable disc. However, the downside is that for the disc to be usable in another machine, it must be fianalized. That means you cannot add to it at all, but now it can be read by other devices, subject to the CD-R/CD+R limitations on older devices.

[smax013]

[quote name='mphenterprises']> {quote:title=auckland wrote:}{quote}i burned some photos on my CD-R disk...> > > > > > Hi Auckland. If you burned photos to a CD-R, you will not be able to burn anything else to the CD. If you want to burn multiple times, you should use a CD-RW (ReWriteable) However, you would then need to make sure that your CD Burner can read and burn to the CD-RW format.> > > > However, if this is not your issue, can you please clarify your post?Um, not true.You can do CD-Rs in either single session mode or multi-session mode. Single session mode will burn data to disk and then finalize the disk, which prevents any additional burning to the disk. Multi-session mode wiill burn data to the disk and then "fixate" that session, which will allow the disk to be used in various devices that support multi-session disks...but it will NOT finalize the disk. You can then come back to the disk and add additional sessions until you nominally fill up the disk (I don't remember if there is a maximum number of sessions or not) or you finalize the disk.This is different than a CD-RW. A CD-RW will allow you to also ERASE it and re-use it. Some burning programs will allow you to format a CD-RW such that it in essence acts like a big floppy. If you go that path, then typically you CANNOT use such a CD-RW on another computer...UNLESS it has the same software used to format the disk on the original computer.What I don't know is if multi-session CD-Rs act like those "specially" formatted CD-RWs or not...i.e. can they be used on multiple computers in terms of adding to content. I have not tried it. I assumed that you could. I also don't know off the top of my head if the default burning ability in Windoze (either XP or Vista) support burning multi-session disks or not.This might helps some:[url]http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq02.html#S2-5_

[mphenterprises]

Correct Smax. Thank you. I haven't used CDs in so long I forgot about multi-sessions. :oops: Thank you.

[smax013]

[quote name='mphenterprises']Correct Smax. Thank you. I haven't used CDs in so long I forgot about multi-sessions. :oops: Thank you.No problem...mind like a steel trap...a rather rusty, steel trap...but a steel trap non-the-less. :wink:

[mphenterprises]

LOL yeah....well, that makes one of us... LOL shoot, i literally have 3 cases of 100 spindle CD-R just sitting in my closet because everything I do is on DVDs.

[smax013]

[quote name='mphenterprises']LOL yeah....well, that makes one of us... LOL shoot, i literally have 3 cases of 100 spindle CD-R just sitting in my closet because everything I do is on DVDs.Don't do much data CD-Rs anymore, but will do CD-R music disks as either mix actual music disks or mix MP3 CD-Rs (my car stereo will read MP3 disks). Music disks are all single session though.Any data burning is typically DVDR disks. If I need more room, then DVDR DL disks. Don't really use DVD+/-RWs. Will use DVD-Rs for video disks.

[auckland]

Today i burned some files on the CD-R in the windows XP and i checked the format it's CDFS and i copied some more files later it's gave the option to add more i put the same CD in the winodws Vista, windows vista gave me the option to add some more but the format has been changed to UDF and i took the same CD and put it back again on the winodws xp the winodws xp didn't allow me to add any more data but with winodws vista it will allow me it's really strange i think the same thing for DVD-R so now i can only add from windows vista???i think the matter with format CDFS and UDF or it could be the session?what do you think guys

[smax013]

[quote name='auckland']Today i burned some files on the CD-R in the windows XP and i checked the format it's CDFS and i copied some more files later it's gave the option to add more i put the same CD in the winodws Vista, windows vista gave me the option to add some more but the format has been changed to UDF and i took the same CD and put it back again on the winodws xp the winodws xp didn't allow me to add any more data but with winodws vista it will allow me it's really strange i think the same thing for DVD-R > > so know i can only add from windows vista???> > > > i think the matter with format CDFS and UDF or it could be the session?> > > > what do you think guysIf the disk is being formatted as UDF, then Windoze XP will not be able to write to it. Take a look at this document: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UniversalDiskFormat_. Scroll all the way down to supported OS. Windoze XP can only read UDF formatted disks according to that document.

[auckland]

so that means i can't change the format on windows vista to do it as CDFS instead UDF so what about the other formats like live file system and Mastered like in this linkhttp://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/2af64e60-60aa-4d79-ab6c-3a5db5806cbe1033.mspxnow windows vista and winodws xp which one is using to burn the files

[mphenterprises]

Hi Auckland. Maybe this is me not having too much in depth knowledge of Vista; however, I do not see how the Operating System plays any part in how or what you burn files.I would believe that any burning application, Nero for example, would perform the exact same function in Vista as it would in XP. Again, my expertise in Vista is limited, for now. Smax and RGreen, is there a significant difference in the burning process within the same application from XP to Vista?

[rgreen4]

While pursuing some intellectual intrigue on this last night, I did find a reference to UDF in my Vista book. If you insert a blank CD or DVD disc into a Vista machine, a dialog box will pop up and ask if you want to burn a data disc or music disc.I did not try the music disc. I clicked on the burn a data disc and another window popped up asking me if I wanted to make a master disc (CDMA) or the other type where I could add files. This is the UDF. Vista will utilize UDF 2.5, but the default is 2.01 to maintain compatibility with XP. The process even gives you the option of selecting. (I have never used this feature in XP, using either Roxio or Nero to burn discs in the finalized format). You can also select UDF version 1.5 to make it compatible with Mac's.:rolleyes:I was unable to get my machine to format the CD-R discs, but it performed fine on DVD+R.This permits you to use the disc somewhat like a flash drive just copying file to the disc. Of course since it's not a RW, you can't erase the files.To make the disc fully compatible with other devices you would have to finalize it. There have long been warnings that unfinalized discs may not be fully readable on other machines and devices, it is not the operating system, but the optical drives. Small differences can make these discs behave in different ways. If you had the same exact brand and model of optical drive in both machines, you would probably not have a problem. Otherwise, ...... who knows?Thats why flash drives have take off so. With an XP and a Vista machine, flash drives may be the better way to transfer files, leaving a final master burn if you want to send the files to someone. Bottom line, XP and Vista should act in the same with the same discs and same optical drives.

[spike]

rgreen and I have found similar answers to smilar tests, apparently, DVD and to a lesser extent CD drives are rather format and software centric/sensitive,........and we all thought the HD/Blue ray thing was a problem :rolleyes: