[Blackfang]

Hello again guys,

I just bought my new HP Pavilion dv9417cl ( dv9000 series ) and i was wondering how i could change the video card if possible. In the laptop is a NVIDIA GeForce Go 6150. I really dont like this video card and im hoping to find a way to get another one, either from an express slot, or if the card is seperate from the motherboard, just remove it and put in another, better nvidia. if the graphics card is built in to the motherboard, does that mean i cant change my graphics card at all? or would i have to get another motherboard if even possible. i have an AMD 64 Athlon X2 proccessor. Sorry i asked so many question, but im just another guy asking for some help. Thanks.

[spike]

If the graphics card is built in, your stuck with what you have.

[Blackfang]

I was looking stuff up, and there was talk about like installing a mobile card or something. i couldnt fully understand it, but i still dont know if can upgrade/change my video card at all. spike sorry u didnt answer my question

[mphenterprises]

Hi Blackfang. By mobile do you mean a video card you would connect via an USB port, or as you mentioned, an express slot? If so, I have not heard of something like that, especially for a laptop. I checked HP's website and it does not specifically say whether or not the NVIDIA GeForce Go 6150 is integrated within the motherboard or not. Have you contacted HP and asked them?



I checked with newegg.com and the closest I could find are these but I highly doubt any of these is what you wanted to find:


http://www.newegg.co...cription=laptopvideocard&name=LaptopAdd-onCards



As Spike stated, I believe if your laptop has a built in (integrated) video card, you may be out of luck.

[Blackfang]

im going to find out if its intergrated or not. thats for the help

[rgreen4]

Blackfang - you made the comment that you don't like the nVidia 6150 video card. What is it doing or not doing that you don't like?

[jimf28]

That is an integrated to the MB video card, pretty sure it's a shared 128meg video ( uses the laptop memory for video) card with DirectX 9 support
You can't upgrade the card since its actually part of the MB. Upgrading the MB is not an option either (specially not in a laptop)

You can add on external video devices for adding video, cable tv tuners, Over the air HDTV etc, but upgrading the card for a faster chip? Nope

There are a few new laptops which have so called upgradeable video cards, Asus makes one

[spike]

The 6150 le is a mobile chipset with INTEGRATED graphics, unless you upgrade to a different laptop , you are stuck with the graphics you have.

These have better graphics;



www.pcmicroworks.com/main.htm

[http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=23&l2=127&l3=0&l4=0&model=1641&modelmenu=2]

[rgreen4]

I would still like to hear from Blackfang what his video card is not doing that he wants it to do, or what it is doing that he doesn't want it to do.
We have a tendency to knock certain CPU's or older Video cards or the fact that "Video Cards" are actually video chips without thinking that we set people up to think their machines are unsatisfactory when they are perfectly fine for most of the jobs.
Years ago when I bought a piece of property, I bought a used 15HP compact tractor with a 4' bushhog to mow the grass. (34 acres even with woods has a lot of grass). A very good friend of mine who had a large 40' tractor with a 6' bushhog told me something that is perhaps germaine to this - "Remember you can do anything a larger tractor can, it will just take a little longer"
I have a four year old desktop with an Intel integraged video chip. It will push my HP w22 wide screen monitor to the same 1680x1050 resolution as my nVidia 7300LE and my nVidia 8600GT. Obviously the more powerful a video card the faster it will run certain games, but, if your not running those games, and only using the PC to check e-mail, use word processing and spreadsheets, even the obsolete 4 year old integrated video chip on a P4 is adequate. We can spend anywhere from $300 to $8,000 on a PC. If someone wants the ultimate super dooper gaming machine will the $700 ea dual video cards to run a high powered game faster than anyone else, that fine. But it doesn't mean the $300 single processor, low end video chip machine is unsatisfactory for someone who just wants a basic machine. Now if that individual wants to run a program and the machine won't, then he has a problem and either has to upgrade or replace.
Spike - I came back in to edit this when I noticed that the "reply to" pointed to you. My rant is not aimed at you, but all of us who sometimes get carried away in our tendency to think that our wishes are those of everyone. There is another posting by someone who thinks there is something wrong with AMD because the biggest, baddest, fastest CPU is currently an Intel, so everyone starts "dissing" AMD, and we all have a tendency to "dis" integrated video, when I have two system (1 desktop and 1 laptop) that continue to surprise me with their capabilties.

[spike]

Your point is valid, and welcome,No problem.

[Blackfang]

i dont like how the video card cant run basically any game at a good looking quality or speed. i got bioshock before i posted this and it ran so horrible i cant play it right now. same with oblivion. i went into the settings and i can actually disable my videocard that is intergrated into the motherboard. if i disable it, the only thing i dont know how i could put a different one in there , liek a slot, or open up the laptop or what. i dunno

[mphenterprises]

Hi Blackfang. Again, have you contacted HP? The only way you can disable the integrated video card is to have some type of installed video card already within your computer.



According to HP's website, the only PC Card slot your computer has is an ExpressCard/54 Slot which also supports ExpressCard/34. I do not see any mention of PCI, PCI-Express, or AGP expansion ports. Unless you install another video card, or have the ability to install another video card, you are stuck with the one you have built into your computer.



Contact HP to verify whether or not your computer has the capability of upgrading the video card. Depending on how long ago you just bought the laptop, if you are not satisfied with your purchase, exchange it for a laptop that fits your gaming needs.

[jimf28]

your kidding right?
There aren't that many desktops running dual video cards in sli mode that can handle BioShock!!!

There are only a handful of laptops that can run any of the top games at decent speed, and they cost 3-5 grand

Dell, Asus, Ferrari

[lilxkid24]

a geforce 8800 can run most games and it doesnt cost a couple grand :-)

[smax013]

Keep in mind that the computer in question in this thread is a laptop. As such, the original poster is basically stuck with what ever graphics card/subsystem that came with the laptop. There are not too many options for upgrading laptop graphics cards to my knowledge.

[jimf28]

Your right, but I would realy like to see you stuff a Gforce8800 into a laptop.
The laptop in question here is actually a great unit, It is primarily designed for Multimedia applications and is great for playing DVD's etc
If running the top 10 PC games is what your after, the options available for laptops are few. There are some fast Gforce cards made specifically for laptop use, and they are upgradeable. But the HP model is not one of them.
Now this is nice: www.sagernotebook.com/product_customed.php?pid=74

Dual Core, Raid O, Dual Graphics cards in SLI with the GeForce Go 7950 GTX upgradeable video card and DirectX10 support all in a laptop!

[rgreen4]

If you run raid0, keep your install disks and program disks close, and your backups handy. That doubles the possibility of losing data due to drive failure. Yes, it is faster. But as always, one get speed at the sacrifice of security.