[johnhope]

IE is just another product vomited by M$.
I wrote a very simple html page just using standard scripts, without even previewing it.
I opened it in Safari and it was perfect.
I opened it in Firefox (now M$) and was half-destroyed.
I opened it in IE and was totally crap.
I had to rewrite it adding crap in order to avoid IE problems.
I Hate M$ because they are killing the progress.

[Scortch]

You say IE is the problem in your case, some will say that it's safari that's the problem.

That doesn't make you or them right.

People hate Microsoft, people hate apple. Windows is crap. OS X is crap. Windows is the best thing since sliced bread. OS X is the best thing since sliced bread.

[RastaMon]

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OMG, IE takes up a few meg. The world is coming to an end. Help us, we are running out of HD space.

That's irrelevant. Users should not be forced to keep it on their systems, especially since it tends to be the attack vector of choice for many malware authors, and MS has been known to change user settings remotely, without user knowledge.

[Scortch]

RastaMon said:

> OMG, IE takes up a few meg. The world is coming to an end. Help us, we are running out of HD space.
That's irrelevant. Users should not be forced to keep it on their systems, especially since it tends to be the attack vector of choice for many malware authors, and MS has been known to change user settings remotely, without user knowledge.

and you say I use FUD. LOL

OMG, the sky is falling because IE is on my HDD.

Safari would be the target of malware authors too, if it was relevant.

What can be done, can be undone. It doesn't matter what program or OS it is.

[RastaMon]

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Wii is a console, totally different ballgame. That's comparing apples to oranges.

Okay, let's us the PS3 as an example instead, since users have installed Linux on it. Now it's the same.

[johnhope]

Every little detail in Windows is crap and abusive.
Every little detail in OSX is freedom and power, stability and joy.

[RastaMon]

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You say IE is the problem in your case, some will say that it's safari that's the problem.

Since Safari conforms to W3C standards far better than IE, the probability is low that Safari was the problem.

[RastaMon]

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Safari would be the target of malware authors too, if it was relevant.

The secure via small market share theory has been disproved so many times that it's funny to hear people still use it with a straight face. IE is a security risk because of the Active X "feature."

[RastaMon]

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Every little detail in OSX is freedom and power, stability and joy.

Apple has done some boneheaded things with OS X, too. They have just done fewer such things than Microsoft has done with Windows.

[johnhope]

Apple has some 6% of market share, 25% of laptop market share.
They should receive the same percent amount of succesful virus attacks.
But OSX has received nor 6%, nor 1%, nor 2, nor 1 succesful virus attacks.
ZERO.
You really think that in this planet there isn't even a guy trying to attack OSX??

The only attack possible to OSX is being the adimistrator, dropping MANUALLY a MALWARE into the system and confirming with the admin password.
It's easier to throw it from the window.

[Scortch]

Just wanted to wish everyone here a Merry Christmas, or whatever holiday you celebrate and a Happy New year.

[Scortch]

I forgot the present.

news.zdnet.co.uk/security/0,1000000189,39291625,00.htm

[pfletcher]

Don't mistake my preference for Macs as ignorance of hardware or computers. I can easily boast 25 years as well, but it would be just as meaningless. Computer technology changes too quickly for such longevity to offer significant benefits. I'm not a SuperGeek?, but I'm not exactly a novice, either.+



Hmmmm -so how do you figure it out that supporting Windows will increase Apple as a gaming platform - support for OSX by game companies will help more - otherwise OSX users still have to buy Windows to play good games.

Many people would rather just by the less expensive system in the firstplace, rather than paying more for the same hardware and then to add insult to injury having to pay more again to play games...

[hcl777]

If I want to hear music, I can buy a CD player, a Sirius Satellie Radio, an XM Satellite radio, a Dell MP3 player, a Sansa MP3 player, a Nokia cell phone, a Blackberry, a Samsung cell phone, a Coby Electronics MP3 player, a Philips MP3 player, a Creative Labs MP3 player, an iSonic MP3 player, a Sony Ericsson cell phone, a Samsung MP3 player, a 33 RPM record player, a 45 RPM record player, a 78 RPM record player, a Barbie Girls MP3 player, an FM radio, a Jensen MP3 player, a Spectra Hello Kitty MP3 player, a Sony Walkman, an Archos MP3 player, digital cable TV service, or an iPod. I use my iPod because I want to.

If I ask my IT department for a Linux or MacOS laptop, they will tell me to take a hike. I use Windows because I have to.

Sorry, but which company is the monopolist again?

[pfletcher]

If I ask my IT department for a Linux or MacOS laptop, they will tell me to take a hike. I use Windows because I have to.
Sorry, but which company is the monopolist again?

I can buy a Linux, a Windows, an OSX or Unix system - I bought and use Windows because I want to. If I want to pretend I'm cool and hip I have to buy Apple... :-)

I don't know tell me who has a monopoly - just because your IT department disagrees with you and wants to make their life easier - doesn't make it a monopoly - kind of makes you look like a cry baby - If you don't like the way they do things, buy the company and change everything to Apple - I am sure you can, after all it's not a monopoly.

[Superchrist]

I must say that having read some of the comments from Apple lovers I',m a bit amazed at how stupid they are willing to look. For some reason people who love apple will defend it no matter how fking stupid their products are.

I love the Ipod for it's design and storage space, but the Itunes part has absolutley no function other than tying customers to the product, and making sure they can't change to a different brand in the future.

Hey Apple have you heard of something called mp3s? Your Itunes program SUCK! It's slow and about as intuitive as a piece of shit.

Oh sure it's probably possible to change the software on the player... How many people do you know that has an Ipod? How many of them have changed the software? None? Really?

Would someone please do me and everyone else with an Ipod a big favor and post the instructions on how to change the crappy software.

- Thanks.

[TechieXP]

To be fair to both companies each both has fanboys and fact is both sides have looked good and bad at some point.

Apple is and always has been a hardware company and Microsoft is software. Both dip and dab in other markets to make money. When it comes to Mac, Apple has an advanatge over MS. They ake the hardware and teh software that comes on it. They dont make an OS that needs to work on 100's of configurations they didnt make. they build a single OS for one system. Microsoft however has to make one OS that catually works fine. The experience you get on your own PC is after you pc maker breaks WIndows so that it functions on there system. If MS made a PC right now it would work exactly like an Apple and in fact even better. Bec for one the machine would have teh proper specs needed to run the OS properly vs the OEM's trying to put Windows on an underpowered system.

And teh fact that Mac was first to produce a consumer worthy GUI form one they copied off somene else, gave them teh potential to be what MS is now. They didnt want that. They wanted to be unique and selfish. That is why Apple has 10% marketshare. It not because MS force their products on everyone, thats only part of it. Its becasue other outfits liek Apple didn't know how to do business. Now that Steve has learned from teh best aka his public enemy number one, he has learned that in some cases you have to break rules and be a little pushy.

Apple is a great pioneer, but horrible business men. MS is just teh opposite. They actually even things out.

Fact Windows runs just as good as mac providing you don't have a crappy OEM pc. People who are smart enough to build their own system which you can NEVER do with a Mac have way less issues when they purchase a Retail copy of WIndows. Just remember when MS releases a new version of Windows teh OEM gets a disk that is similar to but not exact. They then break it by using drivers they have to rewrite to make work with integrated chipsets vs teh retail hardware. They they add all of that other crappy software. You ask anyone who has order an OEM system with just WIndows installed they will tell you they have little to no problem. And all you Mac fanboys are really liars. We have 2 macs in our office and I am an IT person and I know exectly how good and bad they are. True you dont have to deal with any of teh things you have to with Windows. On a business level our Windows system have way less issues than a home user so I wont compare on that level. Because there arent many businesses using macs anyway. But on a home level teh difference is huge. So if I take the 10% of us who know the ins and outs of Windows again a Mac they are in fact similar with many issues. Macs do blue screen as well, i have also had issues with the sleeping and never waking up, i have had failed boots, I have had a few viruses even if i cause them by downloading rogue macsoftware, the wireless does diconnect for no reason, the OS does freeze...



and how is a mac better when it is simply a pc now? same issues. isnt there anti-virus and spam progs for teh ac. PC's seem to have more of it...well duh there are more pc's being used. PC's dont have more problem, again its one problem lots of pc. The reason why no one care about mac proble is ur to small to matter. To show just how pale a ac is, it got beaten by a product sold by its own company nd teh product is not even a mac. and it took this product to actually boost mac sales bec hardly no one was buying them other than schools. they are great learning tools for kids, and for media...which is what they are always good at. But for business...NO. Office on mac looks cool and it is even better than PC, but ask Apple how many copies have they sold..



Screw MS so-call monoply. I am aware they did lots of illegal crap to get Windows whhere it is. Fact is I see it as they would have been there anyway, bec there was nothing better and ther still isnt. Fact is if ac OS was better, ppl would buy more of them and less PC's which means developers would start developing more mac appz and it would be profitable. Developers said they hate creating progs for more than a single platform bec there is no money in it.Adobe is teh only compnay that makes a software for 2 platforms that do well. Well duh, macs are good at manipulating media so Photoshop is awesoe on a mac, but its works almost identical on PC's. Mac are for special ppl...ppl who dont have nothing to do in life accept play. look at teh market, items for play outsell anything else. to prove my theory if u erase Apple out of teh eqaution like it almost happen if MS didnt safe their ass even if it was to keep DOJ off there as and prevent a monopoly, no one would care. PPl act liek Apple is God of Techtoys based on one product. All of Apple products are over rated and over expensive. I dont need a music player that cost $500. There are good ones that cost 1/2 or less. Music pretty much sounds the same in all of them. The coolest thing about Apple products is teh sleek beautiful well thought out designs. Great! I liek that. But form and function has always beaten sphitication and beauty, bec it comes at a high price. Ask Tom Cruise how much it cost him to have Nicole vs Katie. Ask Burt Reynolds how rich he was before he married Loni Anderson. Even today with Macs using PC hardware upgrading to a faster computer will require a new purchase. With even branded PC you can upgrade any component. if it is integrated you simply disable it and buy your own. The only downside is CPU lock where you can only upgrade teh cpuaybe 1 time or so. But since I dont have an OEM i can have what i want when I want. Never has been with Apple and never will.

Bec of PC's so-called hold on the market we have everything. In fact think of this way.Ferrari is a nice car as mac is a nice computer. Not everyone can afford either even though we would. So for teh rest of us we get teh benefit of choice. Thanks to that we have more of it, we have several brands, be ahve several appz, and we have sereval, addons...When I go to best buy ot Fry's or icrocenter...i have isles and isles of choice. For mac i have a single wall that hold everything. This is do not the monopoly MS, but do to better support for what ppl want, better marketing, force or otherwise and just better business. Last time i check, MS didnt fire their CEO and Founder. Last time I check no one had to bail MS ass from death, last time I check a PC does waymore than a mac for way less money which is why they took off in the first place. last tie i check you wont find a pc laptop that cost $3000 that doesnt have a cdrom in it. Windows is far fro perfect, but mac surely isnt a perfect alternative. Just as the Ipod isnt God's gift to the music industry.

And to the guy who wrote the story if ur still around. It was a good take...some was acceptable and yes ther are alternatives. it will depend on your own knowledge. First off anyone who BUYS music these days is a loser no matter the age.

And Itunes does run crappy on teh mac, just not as bad as it does on PC...well Quicktime also is grappy on PC too. I wonder if that is MS fault too? Just liek MS was guilty of cauing progs not to work on Windows it is a known fact Apple has done it to MS. Look at Safari when it first arrive and how it crashed on Windows. And isnt it aazing Windows can now be ran on a mac. If you want Windows it is a cool idea. But if Apple hates us so uch why join the bandwagon? Fact is if they didnt they be a dead Apple.

[NYSkater]

This may be off topic, but please don't kill me for it.

Each company, each individual, needs to do what they do best in order to thrive and survive and succeed.

Microsoft is great in enterprise business. They suck at consumer eletronics. Xbox is a loss leader which means they don't care about profits or consumer appreciation with this product. The Zune is a disaster. I don't care how much you love it. It's a an abysmal failure in comparison to other products on the market. Linux is a great platform, and they have a great OS, but regular consumers are afraid of it, and/or don't know how to use it. It's not an easy or convenient way to use your computer. Despite the fact that it's free, there's more than one reason why it has caught on the mass market.

Apple? They just continue to do what they do best. They don't care about the competition. They don't care about who's "catching up to them." They don't care about Microsoft's silly and extremely expensive ad campaigns in the service of making MSFT look better and cheaper. In effect, Applel doesn't care aobut the external stuff. And that's exactly why the company and their shareholders are thriving compared to MSFT, DELL and others. They concentrate on what they do best, recession be damned.

What they care about is what they do best. That's what makes companies succeed, and it's also what makes companies fail.

I don't give a shift if you like your Zune, your iPod, or your Windows OS. If your product works for you, then it will sell and produce profits for its investors. If you love your product and losese mone for investors, then you're in love with a product that is a loser, like it or not.

[NYSkater]

Therer's nothing wrong, unethical, or illegal about being what you consider a "monopolist." Companies like Microsoft, get in trouble when they use their monopoly status to control the makret in their favor. That's only one reason why Microsoft was adjuctaded as breaking anti-trust laws on a number of counts in a civil supreme court by the US DOJ and the US Attorney General at a time when Microsoft was among the top five lobbyists and contributors to the federal government at that time.

All of us were locked into Microsoft for a number or years. Why? Because they made good business decions, and because they broke the law. People aren't now buying Apple products because there are no other choices. Neither the iPhone nor the iPod is a monopoly. The fact is, there are MANY other choices, among them, incluidng the abysmal Microsoft Zune.

Apple thrives (talk to their shareholders) because they do what they do best. They don't appeal to people like you who don't seem to give a shit about quality. Microsoft fails (talk to their shareholders) because they don't concentrate on what they do best....enterprise software. They truly suck in management decisions and consumere electronics. The Xbox is a loss loser and the Zune is not only a joke, but an abysmal failure. Please don't embarrass yourself further by telling me and us how much you love your Zune.

Some of you people just need to grow up.

I'm sorry that you lost your life's fortune investing in Microsoft, and that you missed out on making a fortune by investing in Apple, but that's not my responsibility.

[WinTard]

Hello my good friend NYSkater.

Well, I don't know what Microsoft or Apple or Dell is up to. All I know is I'm having fun with Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate x64 beta.. That OS Rocks!

There seems to be all kinds of things going on underground... But the intent is unclear? And who is pulling the strings?

You might find some interesting reading in Windows 7 Leaks to Web ... Again

I don't ask too many questions. So I just try to have fun! ;)

Be well my friend!

PS: I got to do some housecleaning on my PM, but you got my email. Just that I've been tied up...

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Curiosity is one of the permanent and certain characteristics of a vigorous mind.
~ Samuel Johnson, 1709-1784, English Author and Critic

I think, at a child's birth, if a mother could ask a fairy godmother to endow it with the most useful gift, that gift would be curiosity.
~ Eleanor Roosevelt, 1884-1962, Former First Lady of the United States