[WinTard]

In a conciliatory message towards all, here are my thoughts on the situation.

WinTard wrote:

[13.|m-204870] Apr 5, 2009 10:59 PM [13.|m-204552] in response to: [PCWorld|m-204552]

Re: If IBM Buys Sun, Will Solaris Die?

As a computer enthusiast who tries to be agnostic and open-minded towards all, I thought this might be apropos:

WinTard wrote:

[4.|m-204866] Apr 5, 2009 10:18 PM [4.|m-204677] in response to: [PCWorld|m-204677]

Re: Linux Servers Take Bigger Hit

There seems to be a false and futile sense of competition amongst numbers. How do you measure something? By its height, weight, circumference, volume, market share, popularity, or what?

First of all, in the higher-end server market, HP, IBM and Sun usually support in-house Aix, HP-UX, or Solaris, as well as Enterprise Class Linux such as Red Hat or Suse. Not to mention Dell.

All these vendors support Linux pre-installed (with perhaps the exception of Sun?). I remember long ago, when IBM was claiming over $1B in Linux business, then HP came out and claimed $2B...

I think we should use the best tool, for the task at hand, and let's face it, there is no Ultimate... Even Windows is quite decent on the high-end of things. And IBM, HP and Dell all support and sell Windows servers too.

We should all become less partisans of one camp or another, because we only limit our options in the end...

To paraphrase a good friend on these forums, who at first came to me as firmly in the Apple camp, but turned out to be a true PC enthusiast said:

I consider myself to be platform agnostic, rather than a platform zealot. I just use whatever is better at the time of my upgrade cycle.
~ asiafish

So let's all stop this juvenile bickering about this is better than that, instead focusing on understanding the reasons why people like this or that.

;)

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The superior man does not set his mind either for anything, or against anything; what is right he will follow.
~ Confucius, The Confucian Analects

It is not who is right, but what is right, that is of importance.
~ Thomas Huxley, 1825-1895, English Biologist

Listen to all, plucking a feather from every passing goose, but follow no one absolutely.
{Chinese Proverb}

Now this thread has been resurrected from oblivion, I shall go read it from the start, because I'm an eBook worm (iBook for Apple aficionados)... Amazing the stuff one finds on PCWorld. But my excuse is I'm a noob, since I only joined last Jan 16th 2009. :)

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The best job goes to the person who can get it done without passing the buck or coming back with excuses.
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Put all excuses aside and remember this: YOU are capable.
~ Zig Ziglar

He that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else.
~ Benjamin Franklin, 1706-1790, American Scientist/Publisher/Diplomat

There is no waste of time in life like that of making explanations.
~ Benjamin Disraeli, British Prime Minister and Novelist. 1804-1881

Losers make promises they often break. Winners make commitments they always keep.
~ Denis Waitley, American Author/Speaker/Peak Performance Expert

[NYSkater]

Here's my thing...if you're happy with what you're doing, then just keep on doing what you're doing.

[WinTard]

Thanks for the good advice NYSkater!

My thing at the moment is we are all users of the Internet. Yet our information highway, appears monopolized by unscrupulous corporations, throttling our vital access. There is a thread discussing this topic from which I'd like to bring to light in this thread, showing that we all have a common foe, regardless of Apple, Microsoft, or Linux and all other good users of the Internet. Perhaps we could focus some of our collective efforts in fixing that situation?

WinTard wrote:
[1.|m-204731] Apr 5, 2009 2:15 PM [1.|m-204714] in response to: [PCWorld|m-204714] Re: Will the Internet Implode?

Simple answer: No.

Reasons:

Bandwidth and IP address limitations are purely artificially driven by greed. IP v6 will blow the lid off potential limitations of IP v4. Non-issue. And bandwidth is cheap! Providers are just milking us for all they can while they can. But competition will take care of that. Already many other continents are way superior in terms of bandwidth than North America. Local measured service is an abomination that has to end. Internet should be based on the monthly rate you pay for bandwidth. Let me explain: If I pay for 20Mbps down, 2Mbps up, then that's it that's all I should be entitled to use every single bit, every single second, every single minute, every single hour, every single day, every single week, and every single year I pay for that bandwidth. PERIOD.

It is up to the ISP to provide an ethical solution and deliver what they sell, not on a burst basis, or BS like some users hog bandwidth. Instead for each and every single drop point of access, allocate sufficient bandwidth to provide what they advertise. All the brouhaha about P2P, video-on-demand, or whatever boils down to the obscene fact they oversell, and under-deliver. Which is a rip-off, false advertizing, and fraudulent in the first place!

I think our governments better look into that issue of fraud, deeper and more seriously, to protect the majority of consumers at large….

FCC and FTC are you listening?

PS: Windows XP is fully ready for IP v6, straight out of the box since year 2000...

Perhaps we need more voices and opinions in that thread?

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We should try to expand our common ground on the basis of mutual respect.
~ Hu Jintao, Chinese President

There is no wise response to a foolish remark.
{Romanian Proverb}

Stop talking. Start doing.
~ IBM, Unlocking the DNA of the Adaptable Workforce

[NYSkater]

I attempted to send this privately, but your mailbox was full at that moment.

My thing is, I truly don't care what people know about my feelings about the people I communicate with on this or any other Web site.

So here it goes:

Hi.

I read your posted messages, and replied to at least one of them.

I very much like the way you write and the things that you care to share with the rest of us. You most certainly do have a great deal to offer.

And I'm glad that you consider me to be your friend.

I've grown to both admire and respect you for who you are, which means, among much else, I would never do anything to disrupt our friendship.

You bring a great deal to the table; keep up the good work.

[NYSkater]

@TechieXP:

You truly need to let go of this Apple hatred thing that you have going. I'm not even sure you know you're doing. With all your experience, your obvious contempt of all things Apple contamintes and often annihilates the good things you write about the things you know best.

If you think I'm the only one who responds to your rage in this way, then someone else here who you trust about this issue.

I believe you're a good man. I believe you have good intentions. I also believe that much of this gets lost in your continuous rants against Apple.

I don't like Microsoft. I don't like their management, their OS, their CEO, or the way they go about their business. But I don't allow all of that to consume. Life is difficult enough without adding additional pain, suffering and resentment.

I do hope that you hear my message.

[artzy65]

If you are talking about the $150M in (non-voting) Apple stock that microsoft purchased back then, I think the deal included apple dropping court proceedings they had been pursuing (for over 7 years, as I recall) regarding the apple 'look-and-feel' thing. But I'm pretty sure the timeline was closer to 1997-98.

[artzy65]

NYSkater, I agree with you there... why can't some of these people just take it easy, instead of poisoning things with unnecessary vitriol... it just erodes a person's cred imo. We all kind of get the idea that many pc users are down on macs... so wth, did a mac fall from a shelf and kill somebody already?

[WinTard]

artzy65 said:

NYSkater, I agree with you there... why can't some of these people just take it easy, instead of poisoning things with unnecessary vitriol... it just erodes a person's cred imo. We all kind of get the idea that many pc users are down on macs... so wth, did a mac fall from a shelf and kill somebody already?

Or vice versa. I'd say if Apple users didn't come down on PC users, then peace would reign.

So I will counterbalance your statement with if nobody started flaming anybody ...

For the record, I as a PC user do not come down on Apple users. But I will respond to FUD, and debunk it. Sometimes in a brutally honest way. But fair is fair...

My motto is: I won't start it, but I will finish it. :) And I believe my friend TechieXP is just doing the same as I would.

I would say the only win-win solution is peace, mutual-respect, and harmony! The only civilized way.

Conflict of interest? What conflict? Live and let live!

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It takes two to tango.