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Dual booted linux machine

#41 User is offline   kcihtred2 Icon

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Posted 03 October 2007 - 04:04 PM

now that we have the linux working, its a matter of using the gparted. I dont no dr-dos or rd-dos or what ever its called, so if someone could provide step by step instructions to it, it would be helpful
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Posted 03 October 2007 - 05:46 PM

Hi Kcihtred. Okay, I am known for being blunt and direct. I really think you are making this a bit harder than it really is. Ubuntu was a very straight installation, less than 20 minutes. There are no instructions needed other than the instructions provided within the installation CD.

You stated, "now that we have linux working...," If you have Linux (Ubuntu) working, there is no need for GParted. These are, to the best of my knowledge, the steps to install Ubuntu:

- Download GParted .iso (the link was provided earlier)

- Download the Ubuntu Live CD .iso (the link was provided earlier)

- Use an .iso program to burn the .iso of both GParted and Ubuntu to a CD (If you used one of the applications that Gear or I suggested and successfully created a bootable Ubuntu CD, you are good to go)

- Make sure that your computer is set to boot from the Optical Drive

- Insert the GParted CD and follow the on-screen instructions to create a bootable Linux partition

- Put the Ubuntu Boot CD in the Optical Drive and restart the computer

- Allow Ubuntu to start and follow the on-screen instructions to install Ubuntu into the partition you created

- Once Ubuntu is installed in the newly created partition, restart the computer (You will be prompted to take out the CD before the computer will restart)

- Once the computer restarts, you will be prompted to choose which Operating System you would like to boot, Windows or Ubuntu




Again, unless you have created the correct bootable CDs using an .iso application, all of this is moot. Also, if you are stating that "linux is working" than you should already have installed Ubuntu on your computer. The article that I provided in my first response to you gives you the same step by step instructions that you asked for and provides illustrations as well. If you have any concerns, I would highly suggest checking this article out. I have never seen a more comprehensive tutorial.

http://apcmag.com/6101/dualbootwindowsxpandubuntu

Additionally, according to the instructions provided in the above link, GParted wasn't even used. There is a link within that tutorial where you can download an Ubuntu .iso. If this is not the same as the version you have, you may be able to bypass GParted with this version. Again, make sure you properly burn the .iso or you may not get anywhere.
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Posted 04 October 2007 - 04:09 AM

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Hi Kcihtred. Okay, I am known for being blunt and direct. I really think you are making this a bit harder than it really is. Ubuntu was a very straight installation, less than 20 minutes. There are no instructions needed other than the instructions provided within the installation CD.

You stated, "now that we have linux working...," If you have Linux (Ubuntu) working, there is no need for GParted. These are, to the best of my knowledge, the steps to install Ubuntu:

* Download GParted .iso (the link was provided earlier) done

* Download the Ubuntu Live CD .iso (the link was provided earlier) done

* Use an .iso program to burn the .iso of both GParted and Ubuntu to a CD (If you used one of the applications that Gear or I suggested and successfully created a bootable Ubuntu CD, you are good to go) done with nero to a bootable disk

* Make sure that your computer is set to boot from the Optical Drive done

Insert the GParted CD and follow the on-screen instructions to create a bootable Linux partition * Stuck here!

* Put the Ubuntu Boot CD in the Optical Drive and restart the computer

* Allow Ubuntu to start and follow the on-screen instructions to install Ubuntu into the partition you created

* Once Ubuntu is installed in the newly created partition, restart the computer (You will be prompted to take out the CD before the computer will restart)

* Once the computer restarts, you will be prompted to choose which Operating System you would like to boot, Windows or Ubuntu




Again, unless you have created the correct bootable CDs using an .iso application, all of this is moot. Also, if you are stating that "linux is working" than you should already have installed Ubuntu on your computer. The article that I provided in my first response to you gives you the same step by step instructions that you asked for and provides illustrations as well. If you have any concerns, I would highly suggest checking this article out. I have never seen a more comprehensive tutorial.

apcmag.com/6101/dualboot[uwindows[/u]xpandubuntu]

Additionally, according to the instructions provided in the above link, GParted wasn't even used. There is a link within that tutorial where you can download an Ubuntu .iso. If this is not the same as the version you have, you may be able to bypass GParted with this version. Again, make sure you properly burn the .iso or you may not get anywhere.

ok the step which you have to use gparted is where im confused, ive like never used text line command OS's before and its kinda confusing. If you could get me the commands i could figure it out. But when i put ubuntu in the drive, it boots to caldera rd-dos or something... and i dont no how to do that. The same happens to Gparted
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Posted 04 October 2007 - 05:25 AM

Okay, at this point, I would advise you not to worry about GParted. According to the article that I have mentioned, you would not have to use it. Also, as Gear mentioned, you may want to have the CD sent to you from Ubuntu. It took two weeks to get to me from Nigeria, I think. When the CD arrived, I set my system to boot from the optical drive, inserted the CD, started my computer, and installed Ubuntu within 20 minutes with no GParted Live CD needed.

So at this point, since you are having trouble with GParted, I would advise you to either:

- Follow the instructions provided within the article (http://apcmag.com/6101/dualbootwindowsxpandubuntu)

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- Request to have the Ubuntu CD shipped to you (https://shipit.ubuntu.com/)




Now, 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is being prepared and you would be able to get it shipped to you in about two weeks.
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Posted 04 October 2007 - 05:31 AM

kcihtred2 said:

ok the step which you have to use gparted is where im confused, ive like never used text line command OS's before and its kinda confusing. If you could get me the commands i could figure it out. But when i put ubuntu in the drive, it boots to caldera rd-dos or something... and i dont no how to do that. The same happens to Gparted

You did down load the GParted Live CD ISO, right? From here? And burned the ISO to a disk using ISO burning method as previously described?


If so, then you should see things similar to what this "manual" shows in terms of screen shots. According that that documentation, it should boot right into the graphical mode if you created the Live CD properly.
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Posted 04 October 2007 - 05:48 AM

no i was using a link from mph's page, but ill use yours smax
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Posted 04 October 2007 - 08:55 AM

Hi Kcihtred. If I am not mistaken, both links that Smax and I gave you provided the same .iso file. The big thing that is hindering your progress is if you do not format the .iso CD the right way. If you are still using Windows to create the CD, you are not creating an .iso CD. Once you create the GParted Live CD, everything should flow smoothly.
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Posted 04 October 2007 - 03:05 PM

gearGE said:

I agree with Mph. May be you burned the .iso file as DATA? You shuld burn a .iso file on CD/DVD in an ISO format, otherwise the disk won't be bootable! If your current CD/DVD burning software doesn't support burning in ISO, consider useing an excellent freeware CDBurnerXP (on Softpedia )

not to throw another monkey wrench into it, but its says i dont have .net framework software, any advice on which to get cause i dont no
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Posted 04 October 2007 - 03:10 PM

Kcihtred, per CDBurnerXP's FAQ section, you can download .NET Framework by clicking on this link.
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Posted 07 October 2007 - 10:45 PM

gear, in cdburnerxp do you have to burn it any special way other than the default settings? cause i finally got it working (after a format)
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Posted 08 October 2007 - 02:54 PM

Hi kcihtred2! To answer your question I wil now boot into Windows. Hope my answer won't come too late!


Now about the "good duel-boot software" that Number3124 was wondering about in this|t-21995] thread (I thot it would be a good idea to answer here, in this discussion). GRUB (the loader that comes with Ubuntus) is wonderfull multibooting software that suites all my needs, but Lilo is also good (read [this Wikipedia article for more info). If, for some reason, you don't like any of tham, Acronis has a very good commercial product OS Selector (former BootWizard) that is now a part of Acronis Disk Director Suite



Acronis OS Selector: features , FAQ .
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 04:29 AM

well i recently got ubuntu linux bible, and it didn't come with a cd and im exchanging the book for a new one with a cd, so that may be helpful. BTW i deleted my recovery drive (it was just a hard drive copy of the recovery disks). and now its blank at 3.3gb. ill try using the cd they include.
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 08:56 AM

thanks I think im going to go with Xubuntu since its the most lightweight Ubuntu
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 12:45 PM

Hi kcihtred2! Sorry for answering late! I'm so far from being in the same time zone(s) that It's like: whan you guys are awake, I'm sleeping ;-)

Step-by-step on: Burning in ISO with CDBurnerXP (current version: 4.0.015.277)

1. Insert a recordable CD or DVD into your CD/DVD writer.

2. If you see a small window pop up asking what you want to do with the blank CD, select "Burn a disc with CDBurnerXP" and push OK. Continue with step 4.

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3. If you don't see a small window pop up, or are unable to find "Burn a disc with CDBurnerXP" in the list of available options, open CDBurnerXP from Start -> Programs manu.

4. You will be prompted to select a new project. Choose "Create Data CD/DVD" (we are not exectly creating a data CD/DVD here, but we will need to chose this option in order to access the file manu afterwards)

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5. Go to File > Burn disk from ISO file...

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6. In a new window you will see the burning options. Under "Select ISO Image to burn:" you will need to choose the path to the ISO image you want to write to a CD or DVD.

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It would be beter to choose Disc at Once under "Burn method", but leave the rest of the settings the way they are.

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7. All that's left to do is to push "Burn disc" and watch the burning progress :-)
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 01:59 PM

Hi Gear. Once again, a very detailed and informative tutorial. Can you please turn that into a Document?
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 02:42 PM

ok thx, now i got linux! to boot!
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 03:00 PM

Kcihtred, I am glad that you were able to get Linux to boot. If you are satisfied with the results you have, please change the status of this Discussion to "Answered" and select the other "Helpful" and "Correct" posts.
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 03:43 PM

NEVER
just kidding, i did, and am happy
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Posted 10 October 2007 - 02:13 AM

Hi Kcihtred. I think you, and everyone else that was watching this thread you wanted to learn about dual-booting, have learned a very valuable lesson within this Discussion. Dual-Booting is not hard at all. As long as steps are followed and one has the necessary utilities, it is a very smooth process.

Please post if you have anymore problems.
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Posted 23 October 2007 - 05:46 PM

Congratulations.

I've always preferred using two had drives for dual-booting, but GParted is what I use if worse-co
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