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Before They Spoiled the Software

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 01:30 PM

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 04:00 PM

iTunes isn't bloated and WMP is??? I just opened my task manager after simply OPENING both iTunes and WMP (both the most recent versions) and iTunes is taking 266,168 K of my memory... WMP is taking 18,508 K. That's almost 14 1/2 times as much.... we must have very differing interpretations of the word 'bloated'...
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Posted 03 October 2007 - 04:41 AM

Author Preston no longers uses MusicMatch or Itunes Jutebox Plus, which I'm now using since the change. What program are you using, Preston?
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Posted 03 October 2007 - 08:17 AM

Try Media Monkey Jukebox. Free but missing a couple of features which they're working on. Too bad they boogered up Music Match, it was great..
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Posted 03 October 2007 - 11:23 AM

I'd like to nominate Norton for this list. And Windows Vista. Oh, and don't forget Shockwave. Talk about bloatware.
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Posted 03 October 2007 - 03:00 PM

Another product you can add to the list is the freebie ZoneAlarm. What ever they did to this last version is so slow that I have to turn it off in order to get to my web-based email account! If the freebie is THAT BAD, who'd want to risk $$$ on their paid version???
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Posted 03 October 2007 - 04:33 PM

My Siteadvisor warns about possible malware on the old-versions site. But, both OldVersion. com and oldapps.com were not flagged as such, so beware. And shame on you PC World for not mentioning this, where's your Editor?
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Posted 03 October 2007 - 04:58 PM

just because they mention apple in this, there are 60 thumbs downs...
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Posted 04 October 2007 - 02:11 AM

Any and all Internet Security Suites... and "Catmoves" if you think Norton is bloated try CA's Internet Security Suite, I got if free with my Road Runer account and lordy it loads 9 programs and 6 updaters for those programs at startup, you can turn a few off like antispam for Outlook, (which hasn't been on a Comp of mine since 1998) but if you even turn off the auto updaters for some of the progs it shuts the whole nine yards down and you get warnings and popups that your at risk and out of date. I'm looking for a Solution as I type cause I know several individual progs that get the same job done with alot less bloat. and yeah "cfisher83" your right iTunes is BBBBBBBBBloated for sure.
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Posted 04 October 2007 - 05:25 AM

You left out MS Money 2007. Money 2003 was easy to use, intuitive and overall great. Some months ago I "upgraded" to Money 2007. It is the buggiest version I have ever seen. Space won't allow me to list every screwy thing it does, but its inability to hold a screen position when you manually update portfolio is one of the biggest aggravations. It scrolls to the bottom of the screen with each "enter" command. Then you need to manually scroll back up to make the next entry. Microsoft knows it's an issue, but, so far, no fix.
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Posted 05 October 2007 - 06:21 AM

Hmmm, no mention of word processors, spreadsheets, etc. I still hear people say, "WordPerfect 5.1: the last-best word processor".
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Posted 05 October 2007 - 09:03 AM

Wow, WMP gets thrashed, MM Jukebox and Winamp get thrashed, then I see iTunes, and I'm expecting the same treatment but instead the author states ,"In the case of iTunes 7, bloat isn't the problem." Excuse me, bloat isn't a problem?! Bull crap. I remember I used to love to use iTunes; it would play music and videos just fine, albeit in apple's format. Then came iTunes 7.0 and all my videos broke. It also became a bigger resource hog. So i got rid of it. I went ahead and downloaded it a few weeks back and nothing has really changed. Still has problems playing my movies, which by the way are in .mov, and its still a huge resource hog. WMP is just fine by me however, so im sticking with it.
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Posted 08 October 2007 - 08:56 AM

What?! Itunes is not only bloated, it's buggy as heck especially on a PC! And quicktime is just as bad? It's exactly why they have the popular quicktime alternative freeware, along with media player classic and other alternatives. th one bloat that hurt me the most has been winamp - used to be so great...
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Posted 08 October 2007 - 10:17 AM

You know I gotta agree XP was nice, can't wait until the new update. The one with all of Vistas's DRM and such, what a joke. Why in the heck MS didn't put DX10 into the update...... oh yeah they are really driving people to Vista. Drove me to Linux lol.
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Posted 08 October 2007 - 10:43 AM

Packrat was a popular PIM in the early Middle Age of Windows shrink-wrapped software, when software apps cost >$200 a pop. But Version 5.0 had so many bugs and attempted bugfix patches that they were in danger of running out of space in their versioning scheme. I think they were up to 5.0w give or take a few letters. The app's rep never recovered. The intro of MS Outlook didn't help their survival.
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Posted 08 October 2007 - 12:43 PM

Non-bloatware recommendations:
Videos: VLC media player
IM: Miranda IM
Music: Foobar2000
AV: NOD32 Antivirus
Also, mandatory subscription to newsletter on signup? C'mon PC World...
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Posted 08 October 2007 - 02:29 PM

You can download iMove '06 from Apple's website, for those who complain about iMovie '08, so there's no need to go to amazon and drop $60 for an outdated product: http://www.apple.com.../imovieHD6.html
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Posted 08 October 2007 - 03:22 PM

This is ridiculous - you complain because programs gain features, you complain because they lose them... what chance do developers have?
The only one that really had a point, in my opinion, was Adobe Acrobat Reader. Stupidly bloated piece of software.

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Oh - and for XP users keen on the retro Windows Media Player, run "mplayer2" (Start > Run > mplayer2 > Ok) for Media Player 6 rather than 9, 10 or 11.
Edited: Added WMP6 message.
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Posted 08 October 2007 - 04:18 PM

How about NERO Burning ROM? It used to be a power program that is focused on one thing. Now it's got a dozen or two DIFFERENT applications and takes HUNDREDS of MBs, even if the burning app is the only part you want. The full version takes up GIGABYTES. Talk about bloat!
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Posted 08 October 2007 - 04:29 PM

Many of the ones I thought would be here, are here. However this article is the perfect showcase for both Nero and Roxio/Adaptec Easy CD Creator. New versions really try to do everything under the sun, and while some features are welcome, they seem to have drifted far far away from the focused CD burning power-users programs.
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