[mphenterprises]

Oh, don't get me wrong. I base all Power Supply recommendations on each individual's computer usage. Even though I personally believe anything less than 500Watts is a waste of money, I do know that there are some users, like my client with the 4300S, that never do more than play Windows Internet Spades and check her email. For her, even the 80Watt Power Supply is sufficient. Now, even though the cost of a 300Watt Power Supply is relatively the same as that of a 500Watt Power Supply, the number one determination as to which is needed is the person's computer behavior.

I always look several months or more into the future when investigating Power Supplies. If my client gives me examples of how he or she uses the computer, I think, "will this behavior be the same in 6 months to a year?" The majority of time, this question leans the decision to the higher Power Supply just for the sake of growth.

Take my computer for example. I have a Kilowatt Power Supply. Do I need a Power Supply with one thousand watts of power, no. Will my computer usage ever dictate that I may need that much power in the near future, more than likely. Will I be disadvantaged if I never reach the full capacity of this Power Supply, absolutely not.

My point is that, yes, the vast majority of manufactured computers were built to minimum standards and for minimum usage. If the computer user starts to do more with his or her computer, a bump, albeit slight bump, in the Power Supply would help immensely.

[smax013]

mphenterprises said:

Oh, don't get me wrong. I base all Power Supply recommendations on each individual's computer usage. Even though I personally believe anything less than 500Watts is a waste of money, I do know that there are some users, like my client with the 4300S, that never do more than play Windows Internet Spades and check her email. For her, even the 80Watt Power Supply is sufficient. Now, even though the cost of a 300Watt Power Supply is relatively the same as that of a 500Watt Power Supply, the number one determination as to which is needed is the person's computer behavior.

I always look several months or more into the future when investigating Power Supplies. If my client gives me examples of how he or she uses the computer, I think, "will this behavior be the same in 6 months to a year?" The majority of time, this question leans the decision to the higher Power Supply just for the sake of growth.

Take my computer for example. I have a Kilowatt Power Supply. Do I need a Power Supply with one thousand watts of power, no. Will my computer usage ever dictate that I may need that much power in the near future, more than likely. Will I be disadvantaged if I never reach the full capacity of this Power Supply, absolutely not.

My point is that, yes, the vast majority of manufactured computers were built to minimum standards and for minimum usage. If the computer user starts to do more with his or her computer, a bump, albeit slight bump, in the Power Supply would help immensely.

And my point is that the OVERWHELMING majority of computer users out there go and buy a "standard" computer from Best Buy, Circuit City, Dell, Gateway, etc and the OVERWHELMING majority of those computers come with power supplies that are likely in the 200 to 300 watt range. If those power supplies were not sufficient for running multiple typical applications or even doing "typical" upgrades (i.e. more memory, maybe a second or new optical drive, maybe a new larger or second hard drive, maybe a modest upgrade in graphics card, etc), then there would be a LOT of computer manufacturer's that would be out of business.



I fully agree that for someone who might want to upgrade their computer in the future, a larger power supply is prudent. This would likely include people who pay you to build them a computer, as they are more likely to come back to you to have you upgrade their computer or build you a new one than just go buy a new computer. But, your typical consumer will buy a computer and use it for tasks that don't even come close to taxing the 200 to 300 watt power supply that they have...and then buy a new computer when that one gets long in the tooth. The exception might be some heavy duty game playing teen that cannot convince their parents to go for a "true" gaming rig and then try to stuff in a new, high powered graphics card, etc.



And I will note that you and I are NOT the typical computer user. Thus, 1 kilowatt supply that you used and the 850 watt supply that I used in our recent builds make a lot more sense as both of us are more likely to do "non-standard" things with our computers (mine will soon be running with an 8800GT and maybe 4 or 5 hard drives, 4 gb of memory, two optical drives, and a card reader, not to mention the 4 fans the case has...but I doubt I will even come close to making my power supply strain with that).

[lilxkid24]

yea i agree with you cuz my comp now has only 300 watts and im running like hardcore games with a 8600 gt. The manufacture like Dell loves to give your the cheapest supplies ever and charge you for whatever they can.

[autiger]

Hi Guys, I wanted to ask you about something I found using the Spyblaster app. that I recently installed. In System Info., under Internet settings, I looked at the List of objects under Cache. Ten of the objects were listed as "Damaged" under the Status heading and one was "Not Available". Four of those damaged, had Symantec (which I know to be for the Norton that I ran the uninstall tool for last week) listed under the Code Base. Two of the others were for a Scrabble game that I no longer have installed. Does this mean that I still have damaged Norton files on my machine and if so how do I get rid of them for good? Also does anyone know anything about an app. listed as Zpeng24 by Python Services. I found it listed under loaded modules under software environment. The freezes are still happening but not as often right now.

[SpiritWind]

:D Hi Susan :



Your last Post got me involved again . When I saw "Spyblaster", I immediately thought "Rogue/

Suspect" program that is trying to "trade" on the Good Name of the trustworthy "SpywareBlaster"

from javacoolsoftware.com . Is "it" from "Total Innovations" ? More than likely the Info I found at

www.computerhaven.info/forum/tm.aspx?m=66753&mpage=1&key= applies . I would NOT

trust anything it is telling you and recommend you COMPLETELY REMOVE "it" from your

computer . To further "educate" you in the field of antiSPYWARE programs, I strongly encourage

you to read the Info on the Site of antiSPYWARE Expert Eric Howes, currently the Director of

Malware Research of Sunbelt Software, the Makers of the very good "CounterSpy", at

[http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm] .

"Zpeng24" is usually "associated" with Zone Alarm; it MAY be a component of their firewall you have

on your computer or a component of the "Zone Alarm Checkup", which I have NEVER heard of, that

you mentioned in your FIRST Post. More than likely nothing to be concerned .

To see IF your computer MAY have "Remnants" of previously "uninstalled" programs, I recommend

you use the FREE "Revo Uninstaller" from [http://www.revouninstaller.com/] .

[autiger]

Oops, my bad. It is Spywareblaster that I have, I miss-wrote the name, sorry about that. I uninstalled the Spybot that I had and the System Check by Zone Alarm.