[unholydoragon]

Hi, I use an HP Pavillion dv6000 Laptop with a Fujitsu MHW2120BH SATA Hard drive. I am trying to install XP however whenever I get to the blue screen installation, it does not recognize this hard drive and only recognizes my external hard drive. I looked everywhere for drivers that I could install with the f6 hard drive driver installer but I couldnt find any. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks!

[crazy4laptops]

do you mean the blue screen in the booting from the cd installation for xp, or the blue screen of death?

When you first get to that page, in the bottom, right at the beginning, it should say, press f6 to install a sata driver. The computer should just pull the driver off the cd. no need to go digging across the internet.

also, unplug your external hdd.

[unholydoragon]

I mean Blue screen of installation. Yea, I tried pressing f6 but it required a floppy disc with the drivers on it which I did not have. Also, I tried it without my external HDD but then no hard drives at all are recognized.

[rgreen4]

Your problem is not with the drive. XP installs on SATA drives without any problem, as long as the drive is recognized by tthe BIOS, and the drive controller is supported by the particular version of XP you are trying to install.

The dv6000 series of notebooks are what I call transistion units. They came originally with XP pre-installed, and then later then came with Vista pre-installed after its release. The follow-on series the dv6500 was a Vista only machine.

Are you trying to reinstall XP or are you trying to install XP as an alternative to Vista?

Where did you get your copy of XP and what version is it - SP1 or SP2?

If it is SP2 is it a recent copy or one that has been around for a while?

There is a [document|d-1097] about going from Vista to XP. As a test, I decided to go through the steps before I uploaded it to PC World. The machine I used was an HP Media Center with SATA drives that originally shipped with XP Media Center Edition and then had the free Vista upgrade installed. I encountered the same problems you did, it just would not accept my 2004 era XP SP2 installation. The drive controllers are recent and require a newer version. Ironically, I used this exact same disc to install XP on a newly built machine with the Intel P35 chipset, but the HP machine with an ASUS board with Intel 965 chipset would not. That machine is back to Vista.

If this machine originally came with XP, restore discs are available.

[unholydoragon]

I am going to get XP to dual boot with Vista. I have done this before on my old HP Laptop (probably because it had an older SATA drive that XP recognized) I'm Pretty sure that this version of Professional is SP1 as it is pretty old. My computer came with Vista.

I heard of the suggestion of turnign off Native SATA support in the Bios, however I have no idea how to go about doing this or how this will help.

THanks

[rgreen4]

Once again - it's not the drive - it's the chipset on the MB that controls the drive. XP SP1 is 2003 era, and your chipset is at the earliest 2006.

The drive that I had trouble installing XP on in my Media Center works just fine with XP in my machine with the Gigabyte board. (Exact same XP install disc).

If you are serious about wanting to put XP on the machine, you will need a more recent copy of XP, preferably one that is XP SP2c which is the latest version. I would be cautios about modifying the BIOS, of course, HP and other manufacturers use what I call a "crippled" BIOS in that a lot of options that are on aftermarket boards are missing. (Cuts down on tech support calls when some one choses the wrong option). Even my Media Center which has an ASUS P5 board, has a reduced set BIOS.

If you still have your old laptop and it still functions, I would just use it for what you want to use XP for. It's one of the reasons I still have my old HP desktop, although to be perfectly honest, most of the time I just turn it on to answer XP questions.

[unholydoragon]

Thanks alot for the suggestion about switchign to SP2c, do you think that stores will stock this? Like if I ask for Windows XP Professional will they give me the latest one or maybe even the old one.

Sadly, I need XP for gaming as alot of game programs do not work on Vista and alot of other programs have no vista compatability so far. I no longer have my old HP.

[rgreen4]

I note that Newegg spearates their SP2 packages between SP2b and SP2c. The still have some OEM XP Professional SP2b discs left and they show the OEM XP Pro SP2c as well (same price).

To restate again, I understand that it will install, but when you go to boot, you get an error, or it will not even install on the drive?

I just want to make sure before you spend money.

[unholydoragon]

Actually, it will not install at all.

So Should i proceed to look for a SP2c or is there no way to install the drivers with the f6 (the main problem is the lack of drivers on fujitsu's website)

Thanks

[rgreen4]

If you have Belarc Advisor, please run it and see what it says for the SATA Controller. I have found that the SATA controller on my HP Media Center that gave me the problem with installing an older edition of XP is the Intel 82801. Interestingly enough the SATA controller on my dv9500 is also an Intel 82801. However, the conrollers (2) on my Gigabyte MB are Intel ICH9's.

If you don't have Belarc Advisor, you might want to download it. It gives all sorts of useful information about your system. I have it on all my machines, as it is a free download.

The XP Home SP2 install disc that came with my old HP zv5330 had file dates of 8/7/2004. The XP Home SP2 upgrade that I attempted to install on my HP Media Center has file dates of 8/4/2004. For point of reference, the XP Pro SP1a install disc that came with my HP D530 Desktop has files dated 3/31/2003. The MS XP Service Pack 2 update disc I received from MS has files dated 8/4/2004. So obviously both of my XP SP2 discs are very early discs.

Were you attempting to install XP as the only OS, or as the secondary installation on a Vista primary boot drive for dual booting?

If you were attempting a dual boot, what were the exact steps you used. I would like to conduct some experiments using my dv9500t as I have two drives, and can clone a system drive and not disturb my good drive.

[unholydoragon]

Information derived from Belarc Controllers:

ATA Channel 0 [Controller]
ATA Channel 1 [Controller]
Intel® 82801HEM/HBM SATA AHCI Controller
Intel® ICH8M Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 2850
Ricoh Memory Stick Controller
Ricoh SD/MMC Host Controller
Ricoh xD-Picture Card Controller

I am attempting to dual book Vista and XP with XP as my secondary OS. T

he exact steps that I executed began with shrinking disk 0 by 9 gigabytes in Device Manager.

Next I restarted my computer with the XP installation cd and I booted from the disc.

Since I have no drivers, I did not attempt to install them by pressing f6.

As the installation progressed, Windows could not detect any hard drives on my computer. And this is where I am now.

Thanks

[rgreen4]

I think its the Intel 82801 controller that is giving the older versions of XP fits. Give me a few days to see if I can find either a work around or at least confirmation that the newer versions of XP will work. As I said, when it happened to me on my Media Center it blew my mind, because the machine came with XP (although a later version). I just dropped it at that point, because I still had (and do) a fully functional XP machine as backup.

[unholydoragon]

Hi,

I hope I'm not interfering with your experiments but a few days ago I recieved an email from the PC World newsletter www.paragon-software.com/newsletter/12182007_PCW.html

This program boasts of dual booting, can partitioning programs actually make dual booting work as well as the manual way?

Thanks

[smax013]

unholydoragon said:

Hi,

I hope I'm not interfering with your experiments but a few days ago I recieved an email from the PC World newsletter http://www.paragon-s...82007_PCW.html]

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This program should in essence be doing that same thing that you are doing now...re-partitioning and then setting up a dual boot with some sort of boot manager. If the problem is related to your SATA chipset and drivers for it, then it will not likely help.





Your other option, however, is to run a virtual computer program like [VMWare or Parallels. This would allow you to run a second (or third or forth or etc) OS with your primary OS. Thus, depending on WHY you want XP installed on your Vista computer, it might be a good option. If it is to run games that don't run well or at all in Vista, then virtualization is probably not the way to go.

[rgreen4]

I agree with Smax - I don't think you would have a different result with that. Checking with both Tiger Direct and my preferred Newegg, neither had any PC based Paragon Software group programs, except for some downloadable software for Nokia smart phones.

In the promotional item that your link referenced, my interest was peaked, however, by reference to cloning. I use Acronis, but I am open to alternatives.

My experimentation is temporarily delayed awaiting arrival of XP Pro SP2c. I am rebuilding a machine, ordered the items from Newegg and threw in an order for XP SP2c, I want to put it on another laptop anyway. It has gotten as far as Jacksonville, Fl and will be at my house late Monday.

[rgreen4]

OK, SP2c did not work. Apparently the only difference in SP2, 2a, 2b, and 2c are the COA numbers, as the CD's have not been updated with any additional drivers. I have not given up, however, as I have found some references to other potential solutions. Let me see what I can find tomorrow.

[RobSanchez]

What happened to my posts? I had two or three of them where I described the same problem. I thought PCworld had more integrity than to delete messages that are clearly on topic. I guess I will find another forum that is less controlled by a bunch of people with weird power agendas.

[mphenterprises]

Rob, no one has deleted your posts. As stated, this is a current Discussion and it is best to have your own Discussion. Here is the hyperlink to your Discussion:

http://forums.pcworld.com/thread/27216

[RobSanchez]

Rob, no one has deleted your posts. As stated, this is a current Discussion and it is best to have your own Discussion. Here is the hyperlink to your Discussion:
forums.pcworld.com/thread/27216|t-27216

OK, that's cool -- I didn't understand that you guys try to keep threads to just a couple of weeks. Since the thread now starts with me though, the title should have been changed because I'm actually trying to install XP Pro onto Media Center. No big deal though because I think the solution will be the same either way because it's the same problem.

[Tunz]

Hmm... I posted to this thread last night and now it is gone too. Anyway, here it is again.

The first thing you should do is check out the BIOS SATA settings for an IDE Emulation or Compatibility option (not AHCI or RAID). If that option is available to you, then that is all you need.
The software approach: Slipstream your sata drivers onto your installation disc.
http://www.msfn.org/...ppy-t13173.html
The hardware approach: The use of a USB floppy drive, but not all of them work. Only those whose Plug and Play number is listed in the txtsetup.sip file on the installation disc will actually work. Search ebay for "05K9283". Microsoft says this one will work.