[smax013]

thegammingperson1994 said:

Ok, here's the link : [https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.asp?ID=7803746]


I'm not sure if that link will work, but the ID there is 7803746.

I think this is the link you wanted:

secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=7803746

The other link took you to your saved wish list page...I found this be then going to the Public Wish List tab and saw that title that you had mentioned.

[thegammingperson1994]

Ok, thanks.


This is the link I want you guys to go to: secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=7803746

If you could take a look at it and tell me what you think, that would be great.

[coastie65]

Hi tgp, I looked over your list. It looks like you took some time with it. There are two issues, 1) the 8400GS is not a gaming card as I have found out and 2) as far as the processor goes, I would go for a conroe over the allendale. Granted, it will run up the tab a bit, but the major thing is if you want to game, move up to an 8600GT. coastie65

[thegammingperson1994]

Ok, I updated my list again. You weren't kidding, it did run my price up. I'm beginning to get a little concerned about my case, though. I have one fan on the side that's been running off of my power supply. If I install the new power supply into my old case, could it destroy the fan?

[coastie65]

Hi tgp, I wouldn't think so as I believe the power requirements for fans is pretty much standard across the board and the power supply won't put out more than is required and total the fan. coastie65

[thegammingperson1994]

Ok, I ordered my computer! This is so exciting. Some one told me just today that you need to reformat your harddrive when you switch motherboards. I thought that only applied to new operating systems. Is that true?

[rgreen4]

I did not notice that you did not order a new HD. Please make very careful backups of all data you want to keep as it would be best if you formatted the HD, you can do this during the install. Either put the data on an external drive or burn CD/DVD's, but get it off the HD. Gather up all of your original program discs as you will need them too.

In your original post, you mentioned that you have had your computer for 3 years, mentioned the MB, etc, but never said whether it was a custom build or a manufactured computer. If it was a custom build and you have the OEM install disc, you should be OK. If it is a manufactured computer and what you have is a recovery disc, it will not work. Moving the HD from one machine to another will not work, because when you start the machine, the first thing Windows does is check the signature of the MB, CPU and other major components, and if enough have changed, it stops.

If it is an OEM disc, and XP, you cannot activate it without contacting Microsoft. If it were Vista, it just in not possible, because they will not allow you to move Vista OEM.

[thegammingperson1994]

Ok, thanks. I remember a long time ago I took out a master harddrive from one computer and put it as the slave in my current computer and it worked fine, but I guess that's because it wasn't the master. That stinks! What does microsoft think were going to do? Copy their operating system? So, I have XP, and no, I'm planning on keeping the old harddrive. So should I back up everything to DVDs or just buy an external harddrive and back everything up to that? I've run out of renewals for my XP software (from previous problems) so will I have to buy a new OS?



P.S. My computer is a custom computer, so I believe the OS is storebought. I built my computer with a friend, and I'm not sure where/how he got the software, so I'm not sure what to do.
Edited because I just thought of something :)

[smax013]

thegammingperson1994 said:

Ok, thanks. I remember a long time ago I took out a master harddrive from one computer and put it as the slave in my current computer and it worked fine, but I guess that's because it wasn't the master. That stinks! What does microsoft think were going to do? Copy their operating system? So, I have XP, and no, I'm planning on keeping the old harddrive. So should I back up everything to DVDs or just buy an external harddrive and back everything up to that? I've run out of renewals for my XP software (from previous problems) so will I have to buy a new OS?





P.S. My computer is a custom computer, so I believe the OS is storebought. I built my computer with a friend, and I'm not sure where/how he got the software, so I'm not sure what to do.

Edited because I just thought of something :)

If all you want to do it put the drive in as a secondary drive to get the data off, then that should not be a problem. The problem arises if you want to use the OS on that drive and use the drive as the boot drive. With the advent of XP (if not earlier), Micro$oft started tying the OS to a specific computer with the activation process. Thus, an installed version of XP will not run on a different computer...you must do a clean re-install of XP for it to work. And yes, it is because Micro$oft does not want to you copy the OS from computer to computer.



As to backing up, it would likely be easier to an external hard drive, but DVD would work as well. But, if you are going to "buy" an external drive (i.e. you don't already have one), then I would suggest just buying a new internal drive to use and an external enclosure for the old drive. Then use the new internal drive on the new build/upgrade and keep the old drive but put it in the external enclosure. Once you get the new drive up and running, you can then copy the data files over to it and wipe the old drive in the enclosure and then use it as an external backup drive. But, that is just me.

[thegammingperson1994]

Hmm... I think I may just buy an external harddrive because it will come in handy for backups anyways. Thanks.

[rgreen4]

thegammingperson1994 said:

I've run out of renewals for my XP software (from previous problems) so will I have to buy a new OS?

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P.S. My computer is a custom computer, so I believe the OS is storebought. I built my computer with a friend, and I'm not sure where/how he got the software, so I'm not sure what to do.


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I guess I'm not sure about this statement. XP does not have to be "renewed". You may have to re-install occasionally or restore it from a backup, but renewal sound like an annual fee which fortunately MS does not yet have. (Don't tell them).
So from the second line, I would assume that you do not have the original install disc. In that case, yes, you would have to purchase a new copy. Unfortunately it will add $90 to your system cost if you opt for the Home version. The Pro version is $50 more.

[thegammingperson1994]

No, I have the disk. The thing is, when I tried installing it one day, it said that I had run out (I'm not sure what exactly they called it) key renewals. Something like that. So apparently, they do have a limit on the number of times you can reinstall it.

[smax013]

thegammingperson1994 said:

Hmm... I think I may just buy an external harddrive because it will come in handy for backups anyways. Thanks.

My point was that if your old hard drive is large enough to be useful as a backup drive, then you can make IT into an "external drive" by getting an enclosure. Either way, I agree that an external drive can be handy as a first line of a backup system.

[thegammingperson1994]

Ahh, atleast my parts arrived last night. I got it assembled and began getting everything going. Man, even booting into safe mode I can see it's extremly fast! I think it's kid of odd that first of all, the make only a floopy IDE and a hard drive/cd IDE. I have to combine the hard drive and CD ROM onto one IDE cable, and since my hard drive is near the middle of my computer and CD ROM is near the top, it's difficult installing the cable. About the reinstalling the operating system part, my hard drive won't boot, which I guess is window's way of saying no. So I'll try and repair the installation. One thing worries me though: My dual core processor was running at about 80^o^C when it was idling. That can't be good at all, when the BIOS'S shutdown temperature is at 90 degrees centigrade. I found it difficult installing the fan that came with the processor, because the notches on the end kept comming out of the motherboard. If you guys can help me with the fan here, that would be great.

[mphenterprises]

thegammingperson1994 said:

My dual core processor was running at about 80^o^C when it was idling. That can't be good at all, when the BIOS'S shutdown temperature is at 90 degrees > centigrade.

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Hi TGP. First, no, 80 degrees Celsius (176 degrees Fahrenheit) while idling is not good. Since you actually have your computer, I would ask you to mark this particular Discussion "Answered," select the two (2) posts that you feel were "Helpful" and the post that you feel was "Correct," and then start a new Discussion regarding your issues. You can create the new Discussion by clicking here.

Since you are having problems installing the heatsink fan, these two issues are more than likely related. As a starter question, how much thermal paste did you use and what kind did you use? Please answer this question within your new Discussion and we can take it from there. Please remember to be as concise as possible and provide as much information as possible. Try to avoid just copying your latest post and pasting it in a new Discussion. The more you provide to us, the more effectively we can help you.

[thegammingperson1994]

Ok, will do. I can't find any one post that actually answered my question, all of you guys pretty muched answered it. :)