[tomlitchfield]

My opinion of Vista comes
from using it everyday for two months for my work and personal use, at times 10 to 12 hours in a day. Ultimately, Vista impaired my productivity so much that I was forced
to go back to XP. I tried to like Vista, but using it became more like trying to live with
it instead of viewing it as a valued tool.
I see some comments from people that have no issues with Vista -that’s great.
But for me and the work that I do Vista
was a hindrance. Obviously we all have different needs and mine must be more demanding
than most. I have too much work to do to
troubleshoot a new problem everyday or toggle between Vista
and XP to get my work done.

Here now in 2008 if XP can run all my software faster and
more stable than Vista, then what does that say for Vista? Embarrassing for MS I’d say.

[kdre]

I work with NT 4.0 Server thru Vista minus Windows Millinium on a daily basis. SO I KNOW THE DIFFERENCES! In this first year I have found both software and hardware compatablilty issues with Vista, BUT NO MORE SO than when XP was an infant. OH how quickly we forget our past woes.

In reading many of these post I hve come to this conclusion. YOU CAN NOT MAKE EVERY ONE HAPPY ALL OF THE TIME. sound familiar?! Change Happens GET USE TO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ektheleon]

You seem to be the one failing to comprehend what you have read. The post you responded to was a refutation, not an echo, of your earlier statement.

[Number3124]

Vercer wrote:"Almost every complaint I've heard about Vista is the same as the complaints I've heard about EVERY OS to come down the pipe since DOS 3.11.
People complain about backwards compatibility, I had more problems getting drivers and software to work the first year of Win XP than I've had yet with Vista, let alone trying to get a lot of old DOS based programs to work in Win 9x.
As for bloat, software always gets bigger as we expect more and more from it. My first machine was a lightning fast Sanyo running an 8088 chip 20 years ago with 512K of RAM. Should I expect to be able to run todays software on that?"


If I had to chose between Vista and DOS3.11 I'd learn command line and go with DOS. As for backward compatiblity I've had one problem with XP. It old game that never realy worked anyway. As for bloat your right software does always got bigger but 32-bit XP ran good on 1/8 (512mb) of maximum addressable ram(4gigs) but 32-bit Vista takes a 1/4 (1gig) maximum addressable of ram to run reasonably well. It's not that it's getting bigger it's that it's getting close to the ram limit for 32-bit OS's, and upgrading to 64-bit would cause more compatibility problems.

[aznemesis]

Or--let's hazard a suggestion--maybe you're the problem? 9 times out of 10 when something goes wrong with a computer, it's because of the user. Even malware generally gets installed because users behave in stupid, lazy ways. That is as true with Linux as it is with Windows. When you don't lock down your system, you're open to attack. Period.

As for Vista, the only problem I have with it is keeping the wireless connection to my printer. Of course, my XP machine has that problem, too. On the other hand, getting Linux to connect to that same printer was an even bigger pain. When I have to reconnect Vista, it takes seconds. Connecting Fedora Core 9 to the printer took a bunch of poking around the net and command-line work.

My programs work fine on Vista. In fact, I run software that came with my Windows 98 system without a hitch. Frankly, I find all the moaning and whining about Vista to be as irritating as the people who won't run Linux because they don't want to be bothered learning how to use it. I run XP, Vista and Linux on my various machines. I'm no more tied to one OS than to any other. Unfortunately, there are a lot of mentally unstable individuals out there who act like your choice of OS is a matter of morality. It's a computer, folks. Nothing more or less.

[MarioJP]

Vista is good if you go with 64 bit. Plus ram is dirt cheap these days. Software compatibilities on the 64 bit won't get resolved fast if people are not jumping on to it. I will have to admit that vista 64 is working quite nicely for me. I am using home premium. No problems even in 64 bit. All my 32 bit apps works fine too.

The only issue is when manufactures for your devices whether its a printer or scanner or any other related devices refuses to make a driver for vista. They are the problem. That sure made me not wanting to buy their products ever again with that kind of attitude.

But other than that been running vista for about a year and couple months now. No bsod at all. But to be fair this is a oem copy and not a preinstalled hp or dell or sony vaio. This is a custom built machine. However you can get rid of the preinstalled partition and reclaim your hard drive space back and just stick to oem of vista.

[WinTard]

abasi said:

I am an IT Manager and I can tell you that we will move to MacOS before we move to Vista. In business no one cares about how pretty it is. Windows Vista had might as well been called Windows ME 2. It is only useful in the home, this is Microsoft's biggest mistake ever. Windows ME was not meant for business but there is a Vista business edition which is an insult to corporate computing.

Vista has helped secure the fact that we are living in a world where you can get fired for choosing Microsoft.

Good luck with Active Directory LDAP, Single Sign-On, and those meaningless things to the corporate world...

And since in business, no one cares about how pretty it is, why would you move to MacOS? To become tied to a single captive-market monopoly manufacturer and vendor?

Other sensible businesses won't touch Apple until a multitude of competing and compatible vendors appear for let's say ten years and prove their viability in the real-world. Who in their right minds would bet the future of their mission-critical IT advantage onto a single point of failure? What if Apple (GASP) folds? Impossible? Says who?

Did you know most sensible corporations have strict policies in place that for any RFP, a minimum of three proposals or formal quotes must be obtained from competing vendors? Even if they already know who they are going with. Just in case... Things change and evolve...

Until Apple opens up their closed-world to competition (and clones), they are shooting themselves in the foot as far as corporate buyers go. Their choice! But they seem afraid of real competition, instead focusing all their marketing efforts in attempting to brainwash gullible individual followers with FUD.

Anyway, people can hate this or that all they want. But nobody can ignore the imminent release of Windows 7, and the lessons learned by Microsoft allowing them to improve Windows to become what it should be.

Anyone contemplating replacing old hardware through simple attrition and moving on up to now ubiquitous 64-bit world, has to consider Windows 7 whether they like it or not.

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Even a mistake may turn out to be the one thing necessary to a worthwhile achievement.
~ Henry Ford

[Nerl]

When I first got Vista I was entranced by the pretty graphics and smoothness of it's design. I was excited. It was so darn pretty! Okay, it was a little weird and all, but it did seem nice. Plus with my nice new big monitor and fancy keyboard and wireless mouse and graphics pad it was all just so perfect. Now, I really want XP back. They assume you're going to use about 5 programs on you computer, and nothing more. You'll use it for your pictures, games, music, and work. Do anything more, and it becomes more annoying than XP.

Really, I simply got tired of the prettiness - it's like drinking cola thats too sugary. If you take one sip, it's delicious and sweet, but it makes you sick once you finish the entire can. By the time you finish off a second you feel nautious.

Here's what I think. I was viewing a Windows 7 Video, and here's what that guy said: "We've clearly heard that people want PCs that are easier to use."
Tell me this, Windows:

Was Vista easier to use than XP?
*nod head*
Did people like Vista more than XP?
*shake head vigorously*

They've tired to please the computer illiterate and displeased a nice chunk of the computer literate. They're going further in the wrong direction. Okay? I rarely get an ERRORS with vista, I am sheerly ANNOYED by it.

This post has been edited by Nerl: 26 September 2009 - 02:40 PM

[coastie65]

I have Vista Home Premiun on a Laptop and XP MCE 2005 on this desktop. I don't hate Vista, I just don't like it. I get tired of trying to find stuff in that mess. Feel like a lab rat running the maze working with Vista. I have found it to be an exercise in frustration for the most part. It does run good despite what I had read from others. It is probably something that could've been, should've been, but missed the mark by a bunch.

[techie4fun]

viperch25, on 06 February 2008 - 09:34 AM, said:

from my point of view its the magazine's that don't like vista not the users. it seems every magazine that comes out lately has to bad mouth vista yet everyone

But of course, because they rely on the negative. It's like journalism and writing: You find one thing that you HATE and write down 50 thousand articles based on your reasons against the topic. "This is the idea that never ends, it could go on and on forever."