[spirobulldog08]

Well those other problems you refer to are what I'm afraid is wrong in our case. I know I have personally completely taken out the original HD and put a completely new one in and XP still would not load from disc, it never even gets to the part where it looks for a HD. I really don't think it's a HD thing, it's gotta b somethin else I just have no clue what.

[rgreen4]

Did you reset the SATA mode in the BIOS to IDE before you tried to install XP?

[spirobulldog08]

yup, if i tried one different setting i tried them all. I got an email saying someone else posted in this forum with the same computer model but i don't see the post. I was just going to share that I have also tried to boot from an external disk with no luck there either. It almost came out of hibernation and restarted. I also tried to boot fully instead of out of hibernate and that also failed to a blue screen. I don't know for sure why I got the email without the post being here. Rather odd.

[smax013]

spirobulldog08 said:

yup, if i tried one different setting i tried them all. I got an email saying someone else posted in this forum with the same computer model but i don't see the post. I was just going to share that I have also tried to boot from an external disk with no luck there either. It almost came out of hibernation and restarted. I also tried to boot fully instead of out of hibernate and that also failed to a blue screen. I don't know for sure why I got the email without the post being here. Rather odd.

My guess is that the message was deleted by an moderator (doubtful) or the forum software "flaked". I don't believe users can completely delete their post...they can edit the contents so that it is a blank post, but the post would still be there. I can tell you it was there earlier today...I got the same email, but also read it in the forum. I was thinking that it was that a moderator split it off to its own thread, but I don't see that in the forum list.

[mphenterprises]

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HI Spiro. If I may be the first to say that no Member Moderator would delete a post without just cause. I would presume that your post complied with the {document:id=1000}. Since that is the case, the post more than likely was the victim of the forum's recent hiccups. If you still have the email, please copy and paste the email content as a new post.

[smax013]

mphenterprises said:

HI Spiro. If I may be the first to say that no Member Moderator would delete a post without just cause. I would presume that your post complied with the [d-1000]. Since that is the case, the post more than likely was the victim of the forum's recent hiccups. If you still have the email, please copy and paste the email content as a new post.

It was not a post by Spiro, but rather a user named [~154815]. It was there about 2 pm, but has since gone "bye-bye". I do still have the email notification since I had posted in this thread.

[spirobulldog08]

well it's nice to see we're all here at once lol i tried cloning one hard drive onto a secondary partition on my original HD and when i turn the computer on and press F10 to go to the boot menu it does not offer me the option for the second partition. it sees an external HD but not the secondary partition oddly.

[spirobulldog08]

ok I just read my own post and it didn't make sense so i'll clear it up...



I hooked up an external HD using a new tool I bought called USB 2.0 to SATA/IDE and cloned that HD to a secondary patition on the HD that came with my Gateway to test if it would boot from it as well. Well I figured that it would probably have a hardware conflict anyway, but I've discovered that first of all the Gateway BIOS won't let me boot to the seconday partition at all. It just doesn't see it when I press F10 to display the boot menu. And when I tell it to boot to the primary HD it just automatically goes to Vista.

[smax013]

spirobulldog08 said:

ok I just read my own post and it didn't make sense so i'll clear it up...





I hooked up an external HD using a new tool I bought called USB 2.0 to SATA/IDE and cloned that HD to a secondary patition on the HD that came with my Gateway to test if it would boot from it as well. Well I figured that it would probably have a hardware conflict anyway, but I've discovered that first of all the Gateway BIOS won't let me boot to the seconday partition at all. It just doesn't see it when I press F10 to display the boot menu. And when I tell it to boot to the primary HD it just automatically goes to Vista.

The boot menu in BIOS will NOT show different partitions. You have to have it be a second actual, physical drive. To boot off of another partition, you need to have a boot manager setup that "engages" after the BIOS portion.

[rgreen4]

The term "clone" means to make an exact complete detailed copy that is indistinguishable in all ways. Thus you cannot "clone" a hard drive to a partition on another HD. You can copy an "image" of a HD onto the partition of another HD, but it is not a clone in that it will lack a reference in the boot record of the target drive. Thus not only will you not see the image partition show up in the boot menu, you cannot boot to it either. It is just a copied file.

I simply do not understand why if your SATA mode is set to IDE, and a second HD is installed (as the only drive), that you cannot install XP on that drive. I have never had one fail. Would you please give it one more shot by:

1. Remove the original HD
2. Install the secondary (new) HD as the only drive.
3. On reboot, set the SATA mode to IDE
4. Attempt again to do a clean install of XP by booting from the install CD.
5. Make notes as to the steps it passes through, and what the progress is up to the point of failure.
6. Reply back the progress of the steps and the error messages received.