[LokiRagnarok101]

Hi gents,
I'm in bit of a pinch. i want to purchase a new gaming laptop for my bday and I dont know which one to choose. I already have a desktop, but since im on the road alot and hang out with friends alot too i want a baby that i can carry around and still have the same amount fun as at home...maybe even more :P. the thing is i got about € 2000 euros that i can spend only once. so i have to think this thing through. I checked the net and made up al ist of decent notebooks (imo) and i check the reviews ( when they were available....theres no review for the GeForce® 9650M-GS GPU yet..) but im still not certain. My choice is pending between the AW 51 and the Acer 8920G.....the Acer Aspire 5920G-602G25HN looked a good machine for little money, but gaming reviews were bad :-( .I need some input from people who know their stuff to advice me which machine to buy. May be you guys will advize me a different machine...god knows. Im a gamefanatic ( LI2,WoW,FFXI,GW series, Doom 3, FEAR,Medal of Honor, etc...)but i also do a lot of creative work ( Abodephotoshop, Mangastudio, 3D creation applications, etc..) so multitasking is a pre.mind you, i dont mind paying less if i can :-P but like i said 2000 euros is my limit.

could you guys check it out and help me out ? very much appreciated :-D
Greets,Kelvin ( Netherlands)


Acer Aspire 8920G-934G64BN - Verwacht 21 april ( LX.AP70U.012) 17-04-08
€1789.09
Intel® Core^TM^2 Duo processor T9300 (2.3GHz / FSB: 800MHz / 6MB L2 cache), Microsoft® Windows® Vista^TM^ Ultimate, Works^TM^ 8.5 Office^TM^ Home & Student 2007 Trial (60 days), 18,4TFT WUXGA Full High Definition CineCrystal Dual Lamp, 4096MB DDR II RAM (2x 2048), 640GB HDD (2x 320GB) (5400rpm), Blu-ray read (DVD Dual Layer write), 8-cell Li-ion battery, 56K modem, Gigabit & Wireless LAN 802.11a/b/g/n, Bluetooth®, HDMI, NVIDIA® GeForce® 9650M-GS 512MB/1280MB TC DDR3, FingerPrint, 0.3MP CrystalEye, 6-in-1 card read


Acer Aspire 6920G-834G32BN - Verwacht 7 april ( LX.AP40X.123)
€1298.29
Intel® Core^TM^2 Duo processor T8300 (2.4GHz / FSB: 800MHz / 3MB L2 cache), Microsoft® Windows® Vista^TM^ Home Premium, Works^TM^ 8.5 Office^TM^ Home & Student 2007 Trial (60 days), 16TFT WUXGA Full High Definition CineCrystal, 4096MB DDR II RAM (2x 2048), 320GB HDD (1x 320GB) (5400rpm), Blu-ray read (DVD Dual Layer write), 6-cell Li-ion battery, 56K modem, Gigabit & Wireless LAN 802.11a/b/g/n, Bluetooth®, HDMI, NVIDIA® GeForce® 9500M-GS 512MB/1280MB TC, FingerPrint, 0.3MP CrystalEye, 5-in-1 card reader, DVB-T TV t


15V125+ EXTREME GAMING
€ 1.132 incl. BTW
EXTREME GAMING EDITION!! Nieuwe Core2Duo Penryn processor, 7200RPM HDD en 1Gb Intel Turbo Memory (tot 50% sneller). NVIDIA 8600GT grafische kaart met 512Mb gekoppeld aan een X-Black WSXGA hoog resolutie (1680x1050) scherm. Incl HDMI Full-HD uitgang. ( 15,4 inch WSXGA X-Black TFT (res. 1680x1050), Nvidia 8600M GT 512 Mb videokaart, DirectX 10, Intel® Core2Duo T9300 2.50GHz - 6 Mb (FSB-800MHz), 2Gb DDR2-800MHz (slot 1), 2Gb DDR2-800MHz (slot 2), Intel® 1GB Turbo Memory (VISTA),
200GB 7200 rpm (16Mb cache) Serial ATA, 8x DVD/-RW Dual Layer, Intel® 4965AGN 54-300Mb, Interne Bluetooth module met EDR 2.0 (2Mbit/s), HDMI connector voor HD ready LCD schermen, Ingebouwde WebCam + Microfoon, Diefstal Alarm (speakers worden gebruikt als sirene bij diefstal)

Acer Aspire 5920G-602G25HN met 2048MB - OP = OP ( LX.AKQ0U.008-OP)
€831.81
Intel® Core^TM^ 2 Duo processor T7500 2.2GHz (FSB: 800MHz/4MB L2 /1GB Robson), Microsoft® Windows® Vista Ultimate, Works 8.5 + Office Home & Student 2007 Trial (60 days), 15.4TFT WXGA CB, 2048MB DDR II(2x1024), 250GB (5400rpm), HD DVD, 8-cell, 56K, Lan & Wireless 802.11n, NVidia GeForce 8600M-GT 512MB/1280MB TC, HDMi, 5-in-1 CR, BT, 0.3MP CrystalEye(fixed)
NVIDIA® GeForce 8600M GT with up to 2304 MB of TurboCache^TM^ technology (up to 512MB of dedicated GDDR2 VRAM, up to 1792 MB of shared system memory*), supporting NVIDIA® PureVideo^TM^ technology (WMV HD, High Definition MPEG-2 Hardware Acceleration), Microsoft® DirectX® 9 and DirectX® 10, OpenEXR High Dynamic Range (HDR) technology and PCI Express®



Dell XPS M1730 (Core 2 Extreme T9300 Processor 2.5GHz, 2GB RAM)
€2599
Intel® Core^TM^2 Duo Processor T9300 (2,50 GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 6 MB L2-cache), Legitieme Windows Vista^TM^ Home Premium - Nederlands, 17,0-inch UltraSharp^TM^ WUXGA (1.920 x 1.200) TFT met TrueLife^TM^ met geïnt. 2,0 MP webcam, DUAL SLI 512 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8800GTX-kaart, 2.048 MB 667 MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM 2 x 1.024,
320 GB (7.200 rpm) SATA RAID 0 Stripe (2 x 160 GB), Vast 8x DVD+/-RW-station met dunne laadsleuf, inclusief software, Intel® Pro Wireless 3945 802.11a/b/g Minikaart - Europa - Core 2 Duo Processors, Basisgarantie - 1 jaar XPS Premium hardwaresupport (incl.support on-site en voor games).

Area-51® m15x
€1940
15.4" WideXGA+ 1440 x 900 LCD (720p) with Clearview Technology, Genuine Windows® Vista Home Premium, 512MB NVidia® GeForce^TM^ Go 8800M GTX, Intel® Core^TM^ 2 Duo T9300 2.5GHz (6MB Cache 800MHz FSB) , 2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SO-DIMM at 667MHz - 2 x 1024MB, Intel Turbo Cache Memory 1GB - Accelerate Data Transfer Speed,
Single Drive Configuration - 120GB 7200 RPM (8MB Cache), 8x Dual Layer Writer (DVD±RW, CD-RW), Intel® High-Definition Audio (24-bit, 192Khz) with surround sound,
Alienware® Illuminated AlienFX® Keypad , AlienCare 1-Year Free Phone 24/7 and Collect & Return

[kcihtred2]

correct me if im wrong, but thats about $3200 US dollars?

also how do you feel about building your own? cause asus has cases+motherboards for sale which are a really cool and you can say you built your own! :)


edit: forgot somethings


also how big of a hard drive do you want?


are you intel or amd fan? or doesn't matter?
screen size?


what games you play?


anyother details you forgot?

[LokiRagnarok101]

that would be 2,000 Euro = 3,164.90 US Dollar :)
im not technical enough to build my own...but if that would be the case , what would you advize. did you check my list? is it anygood or do you know somethign beter? :) im all ears and eager to learn...and most of all, cant wait to have my new laptop :D

[kcihtred2]

what OS are you looking at? vista or XP? case that is huge, also you can dual boot for both

and what games you play? i could use specs

[LokiRagnarok101]

no particular choice in CPU brand, although the new penryn cpu's look good. screen should be 15". i have 2 external hard drives already so guess 160-200 GB should be enough. i prefer XP but i will need Vista 64x if have 4Gb Ram. its all their in the laptops as mentioned in the list above. i play MMoRPGs and MMShooters. I also use other applications for my drawings and manga creations etc.

if you check the list , which one would you get and why? maybe that would motivate me to buy it.

[kcihtred2]

sorry their all in US $, but im not good with euros and im at school so im not futsing with their pcs

choice 1: http://explore.toshi...X205/X205-SLi6] $2450


good bang for buck, and can buy XP to dual boot your pc to have both XP and Vista on there. (software to do that is [here)

Choice 2: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220233 $3000

not as good specs as choice 1, but has your 15 inch screen. Also its a special lamborgine (check my spelling) edition which is considered the "coolest" laptop out there. also runs Vista, but dual boot option still in budget

now let me relook at your old configs:

Acer Aspire 8920G-934G64BN - Verwacht 21 april ( LX.AP70U.012) 17-04-08
€1789.09
Intel® Core^TM^2 Duo processor T9300 (2.3GHz / FSB: 800MHz / 6MB L2 cache), Microsoft® Windows® Vista^TM^ Ultimate, Works^TM^ 8.5 Office^TM^ Home & Student 2007 Trial (60 days), 18,4TFT WUXGA Full High Definition CineCrystal Dual Lamp, 4096MB DDR II RAM (2x 2048), 640GB HDD (2x 320GB) (5400rpm), Blu-ray read (DVD Dual Layer write), 8-cell Li-ion battery, 56K modem, Gigabit & Wireless LAN 802.11a/b/g/n, Bluetooth®, HDMI, NVIDIA® GeForce® 9650M-GS 512MB/1280MB TC DDR3, FingerPrint, 0.3MP CrystalEye, 6-in-1 card read

personally HATE ACER WITH A PASSION!!! Talk about crappy tech support (and i thought compaq and packard bell was bad! lol) CPU good, 4GB ram good, but 64bit not everthing is supported (example WoW). hard drives, im assuming is RAID 0, so you have a good speed. Battery, nothing special there, Gigabit, wireless, bluetooth good, good graphics card, fingerprint reader are aviable externally, and that card reader is nice. overall, a good price tho.

Acer Aspire 6920G-834G32BN - Verwacht 7 april ( LX.AP40X.123)
€1298.29
Intel® Core^TM^2 Duo processor T8300 (2.4GHz / FSB: 800MHz / 3MB L2 cache), Microsoft® Windows® Vista^TM^ Home Premium, Works^TM^ 8.5 Office^TM^ Home & Student 2007 Trial (60 days), 16TFT WUXGA Full High Definition CineCrystal, 4096MB DDR II RAM (2x 2048), 320GB HDD (1x 320GB) (5400rpm), Blu-ray read (DVD Dual Layer write), 6-cell Li-ion battery, 56K modem, Gigabit & Wireless LAN 802.11a/b/g/n, Bluetooth®, HDMI, NVIDIA® GeForce® 9500M-GS 512MB/1280MB TC, FingerPrint, 0.3MP CrystalEye, 5-in-1 card reader, DVB-T TV t

again ACER HATER HERE!!! good processor, Vista eh? id dual boot, 4gb ram means 64bit which again not all games are supported by. slow HDD speed, bluray reader is nice. accessories are nice, and graphcs card is good

15V125+ EXTREME GAMING
€ 1.132 incl. BTW
EXTREME GAMING EDITION!! Nieuwe Core2Duo Penryn processor, 7200RPM HDD en 1Gb Intel Turbo Memory (tot 50% sneller). NVIDIA 8600GT grafische kaart met 512Mb gekoppeld aan een X-Black WSXGA hoog resolutie (1680x1050) scherm. Incl HDMI Full-HD uitgang. ( 15,4 inch WSXGA X-Black TFT (res. 1680x1050), Nvidia 8600M GT 512 Mb videokaart, DirectX 10, Intel® Core2Duo T9300 2.50GHz - 6 Mb (FSB-800MHz), 2Gb DDR2-800MHz (slot 1), 2Gb DDR2-800MHz (slot 2), Intel® 1GB Turbo Memory (VISTA),
200GB 7200 rpm (16Mb cache) Serial ATA, 8x DVD/-RW Dual Layer, Intel® 4965AGN 54-300Mb, Interne Bluetooth module met EDR 2.0 (2Mbit/s), HDMI connector voor HD ready LCD schermen, Ingebouwde WebCam + Microfoon, Diefstal Alarm (speakers worden gebruikt als sirene bij diefstal)

i like the penryn, good hdd speed. turbo memory... its ok. graphics card ok, CPU good, 2gb ram means 32bit which is better. 200gb is enough and good hard drive spped. sata dvd burner, very nice. accessories sound good from what i can make out (not fluent in other languages other than geek and english)

Acer Aspire 5920G-602G25HN met 2048MB - OP = OP ( LX.AKQ0U.008-OP)
€831.81
Intel® Core^TM^ 2 Duo processor T7500 2.2GHz (FSB: 800MHz/4MB L2 /1GB Robson), Microsoft® Windows® Vista Ultimate, Works 8.5 + Office Home & Student 2007 Trial (60 days), 15.4TFT WXGA CB, 2048MB DDR II(2x1024), 250GB (5400rpm), HD DVD, 8-cell, 56K, Lan & Wireless 802.11n, NVidia GeForce 8600M-GT 512MB/1280MB TC, HDMi, 5-in-1 CR, BT, 0.3MP CrystalEye(fixed)
NVIDIA® GeForce 8600M GT with up to 2304 MB of TurboCache^TM^ technology (up to 512MB of dedicated GDDR2 VRAM, up to 1792 MB of shared system memory*), supporting NVIDIA® PureVideo^TM^ technology (WMV HD, High Definition MPEG-2 Hardware Acceleration), Microsoft® DirectX® 9 and DirectX® 10, OpenEXR High Dynamic Range (HDR) technology and PCI Express®

processor is good, vista is ok, but id dual boot. 2gb ram good, but the style they did if you want to upgrade you must buy new ram and REPLACE the old stix. slow hdd, hd-dvd is waste. more of a media center pc if anything

Dell XPS M1730 (Core 2 Extreme T9300 Processor 2.5GHz, 2GB RAM)
€2599
Intel® Core^TM^2 Duo Processor T9300 (2,50 GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 6 MB L2-cache), Legitieme Windows Vista^TM^ Home Premium - Nederlands, 17,0-inch UltraSharp^TM^ WUXGA (1.920 x 1.200) TFT met TrueLife^TM^ met geïnt. 2,0 MP webcam, DUAL SLI 512 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8800GTX-kaart, 2.048 MB 667 MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [http://2%20x%201.024/],
320 GB (7.200 rpm) SATA RAID 0 Stripe (2 x 160 GB), Vast 8x DVD+/-RW-station met dunne laadsleuf, inclusief software, Intel® Pro Wireless 3945 802.11a/b/g Minikaart - Europa - Core 2 Duo Processors, Basisgarantie - 1 jaar XPS Premium hardwaresupport (incl.support on-site en voor games).

looks like its a little out of pirce range, and good graphics (2 of them nice), good hard drive speed. im not the biggest dell fan, but if they have Krogers grocery over there, look for it and apply (discounts). or government discounts work also.

Area-51® m15x
€1940
15.4" WideXGA+ 1440 x 900 LCD (720p) with Clearview Technology, Genuine Windows® Vista Home Premium, 512MB NVidia® GeForce^TM^ Go 8800M GTX, Intel® Core^TM^ 2 Duo T9300 2.5GHz (6MB Cache 800MHz FSB) , 2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SO-DIMM at 667MHz - 2 x 1024MB, Intel Turbo Cache Memory 1GB - Accelerate Data Transfer Speed,
Single Drive Configuration - 120GB 7200 RPM (8MB Cache), 8x Dual Layer Writer (DVD±RW, CD-RW), Intel® High-Definition Audio (24-bit, 192Khz) with surround sound,
Alienware® Illuminated AlienFX® Keypad , AlienCare 1-Year Free Phone 24/7 and Collect & Return

would not buy, just too pricey

BTW since you've never built a computer, im not diving in there, ive built them, and laptops are harder

[LokiRagnarok101]

Thx for your insight. so it comes down to the BTO i guess....
i have built my own pc, which wasnt that hard, but i dont want to get it to building laptop, rather had someone doing it for me...the thing is i screwed up my motherboard at the first pc building endeavour :P

so, you dont recommend the AW? i like the look of the AW and you can personalize it....true the price tag is huge....wont be going out for beers for atleast 6 months...but its worth it...no?

[LokiRagnarok101]

anyone else good advize for me?