Vista 'Inevitable' at Work, Analyst Says
Posted 03 May 2008 - 01:31 PM
I will Never move my company to Vista. I've been an avid supporter of Windows NT since setting up a Domain in version 3.1 (yes, there was a Windows NT 3.1). Now, if Microsoft actually fails to support XP before rolling out an acceptable replacement for Vista, I will bite the bullet and move to Ubuntu, enterprise-wide.
We're getting close to where switching entirely from Microsoft has an attractive ROI.
Vista inevitable? FAR from it!
Posted 03 May 2008 - 02:27 PM
The fact that they are forcing every user , corporate or personal to switch to Vista or higher and spend allot of time and $$$ is insane when there is nothing wrong with XP and XP pro. They finely got it right and now here we go again. After they actually gain back the trust of most people who went through the horror of, dear I say it (M E). Vista basically is an absolute nightmare with most hardware. Since it arrived we are now faced with paying more money on a PC that barely supports it without upgrading the system you just bought. What is wrong with this picture?? I put up with it because like most people I got sucked in thinking it is the way to go.Personally I think it is time to start thinking about migrating to Mac.They have been very patient with there product knowing this day would come.When they looked doomed years ago they kept there head above water and kept trying.My hat is off to them.
Posted 03 May 2008 - 05:03 PM
Sicne when has the american dream morphed into: whine now and sue later?
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Posted 03 May 2008 - 07:40 PM
The reality is that Ben is probably not too informed on what it takes to support a poor offering like Vista in the enterprise. He doesn't know how long and hard it is to get 3rd party software and hardware vendor adoption.
Ben's research should have taken him back a few years. It wan't too long ago when companies clung long an hard to Windows 98 before finally making the jump to XP.
Ben's research failed to include the existing license agreement that will allow businesses to downgrade.
He also missed wonderful advancements in virtualization, where the only drivers I need for XP will come from VMWare or Apple's bootcamp project.
What is the current Windows solution for the corporate desktop: Windows 2003 and 2008 Server - Terminal Server whenever possible.
Hopefully, Microsoft won't shoot themselves in the foot again.
Forgive the typos, I wrote this on my iPhone.
Posted 04 May 2008 - 12:15 AM
By the way, how is it "whining" to point out the truth: that a company that has produced a string of great products for 15 years, and now brings out a complete dog (let me define dog for you: half as fast, needs twice as much memory, and has poor driver support) and on top of that stops selling or supporting the only desktop OS they make that actually works...how is it "whining" to point out they're being foolish and arrogant?
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Posted 04 May 2008 - 01:04 PM
This statement is just not true
XP will be available for OEMS until 2009
Most OEM's have already stated they will be using the M$ downgrade rights to keep selling PC's with XP on them well after June 30th.
Anyone who still want's to sell a PC to a corporate environment will do the same, no one in their right mind is deploying Vista in the field.
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Posted 04 May 2008 - 08:12 PM
It's time to WAKE UP EVERYONE!
Yes...I AM a MAC user...made the switch a year ago. No problems with my "propietary" hardware - works flawlessly. Operating system has NEVER crashed.
I did call tech support once...with a question about USB port configurations. Quick, knowledgeable, polite, easy to understand. EXCELLENT service!
I use my MAC everyday for offsite report writing and communication with my Windows based company. Even use Office for the MAC but recently changed to IWork 08 and have NEVER had a file compatibility issue.
There IS a better way to work...Microsoft lost me with a terrible experience with Vista. Many of my colleagues too...
Posted 05 May 2008 - 08:02 AM
Some of you actually believe you are entitled to "something". As was already mentioned, if you don't like the way MS is running their business then SWITCH. But we all know what wont happen WHICH IS WHY some of you whine like babies about it. The hard cold truth is that Linux CAN NOT give you what you "want" either yet alone what you "need".
Either way, NO ONE is being forced to switch and NO ONE is going to get punished for not switching. If Windows 7 is worse then Vista then by all means upgrade to Vista then. At least drivers will be stronger. As well, who is forcing you to switch? Do any of you have any clue as to how long people continued to use NT4 for YEARS after it's EOL? You can keep using XP all you want. There wont be any security fixes however, your CLIENTS shouldn't be relying on those anyway you naughty IT admins!!!!
Posted 05 May 2008 - 09:19 AM
I think I won't shed any tears if MS loses its dominant position in the industry. It's about time they were humbled.
Posted 05 May 2008 - 02:49 PM